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Senior Club Football Championship 2020

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Replying To mickruane:  "Big question is for next year have Corofin got the players coming through to replace the aging players like Sice Lundy McGrath and Steede??they have been performing constant for them the last 10 years but with these guys pushing on I do question is the same quality is there to replace them???definetely not in my opinion...Moycullen (Man City )look a strong powerful side who will be looking to push on and win another few county titles...mountbellew are young athletic and classy and will be there for years to come while u wud imagine Salthill and Claregalway will begin to push with the amount of quality they have coming through....I think we cud be in for a very exciting and open championship in the next 5 to 10 years with the amount of quality young sides coming through"
Moycullen are Salthill light with players from Cavan, Mayo etc... and surerly Mountbellew/Moylough should be two teams. How can it be fair to have 2 small towns joined together and have one team? Corofin are far from finished. All they need is 3 or 4 new players coming through and they could have them. I hope there is an All Ireland club championship and Moycullen will discover just how hard it is to win it.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 186 - 18/10/2020 20:33:25    2298917

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Replying To crafty:  "Moycullen are Salthill light with players from Cavan, Mayo etc... and surerly Mountbellew/Moylough should be two teams. How can it be fair to have 2 small towns joined together and have one team? Corofin are far from finished. All they need is 3 or 4 new players coming through and they could have them. I hope there is an All Ireland club championship and Moycullen will discover just how hard it is to win it."
Yes because no gaa club team in Ireland is two small villages joined up.

Considering Corofin's pick and giant cachement area this is a bananas post.

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 331 - 18/10/2020 21:05:48    2298934

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Replying To crafty:  "Moycullen are Salthill light with players from Cavan, Mayo etc... and surerly Mountbellew/Moylough should be two teams. How can it be fair to have 2 small towns joined together and have one team? Corofin are far from finished. All they need is 3 or 4 new players coming through and they could have them. I hope there is an All Ireland club championship and Moycullen will discover just how hard it is to win it."
Just to clarify about the 2 villages thing as a lot of people do not seem to understand. GAA clubs in Galway like most of the country are formed around parishes. In rural Galway most parishes have at least 2 x Roman Catholic churches. Historically this relates to population and the fact that each church area did not have the population to sustain a parish priest AND a curate. So the parish priest would be located near one church (e.g. Moylough) with the curate in the other church in the parish ( e.g. Mountbellew). This is replicated all over the county. Kilkerrin / Clonberne, Caltra/Ahascragh, Monivea/Abbeyknockmoy, Ballygar/Newbridge, Corofin/Belclare, Dunmore/Garrafrauns. All these are SINGLE parishes. As the relative populations in all these parishes is getting smaller ,if anything, there is no need or benefit to splitting the parishes. Probably the exception to the above list is Corofin/Belclare , but even in Corofin the population is not as big as the catchments of Clareglaway, Oranmore, Salthill, Moycullen or Barna so I think where possible it is good to keep with the traditional parishes/clubs.
Regarding Mountbellew / Moylough , the parish has always played together . The records show that "Mountbellew" won the county championship in 1974 while "Mountbellew-Moylough" won it in 1986 , giving some people the impression that there was an amalgamation in the intervening years. Not so , what actually happened around that time was a club decision to change its name to reflect the actual parish name, but no change to the club or parishes geography happened.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 140 - 19/10/2020 09:42:27    2299029

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It used to be people giving out about the size of Corofin and now that Mountbellew beat Corofin you are giving out about the size of Mountbellew...ah stop!!

Ayeartilmonday (Galway) - Posts: 63 - 19/10/2020 10:53:47    2299073

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Just to clarify about the 2 villages thing as a lot of people do not seem to understand. GAA clubs in Galway like most of the country are formed around parishes. In rural Galway most parishes have at least 2 x Roman Catholic churches. Historically this relates to population and the fact that each church area did not have the population to sustain a parish priest AND a curate. So the parish priest would be located near one church (e.g. Moylough) with the curate in the other church in the parish ( e.g. Mountbellew). This is replicated all over the county. Kilkerrin / Clonberne, Caltra/Ahascragh, Monivea/Abbeyknockmoy, Ballygar/Newbridge, Corofin/Belclare, Dunmore/Garrafrauns. All these are SINGLE parishes. As the relative populations in all these parishes is getting smaller ,if anything, there is no need or benefit to splitting the parishes. Probably the exception to the above list is Corofin/Belclare , but even in Corofin the population is not as big as the catchments of Clareglaway, Oranmore, Salthill, Moycullen or Barna so I think where possible it is good to keep with the traditional parishes/clubs.
Regarding Mountbellew / Moylough , the parish has always played together . The records show that "Mountbellew" won the county championship in 1974 while "Mountbellew-Moylough" won it in 1986 , giving some people the impression that there was an amalgamation in the intervening years. Not so , what actually happened around that time was a club decision to change its name to reflect the actual parish name, but no change to the club or parishes geography happened."
By the way its not just a North galway thing. I forgot to mention Peterswell/Kilchreest, Leitrim/Kilnadeema, Abbey/Duniry, Kilconnell / Aughrim, Fohenagh/Killure, Ballymacward/Gurteen, Oranmore/Maree , and i'm sure there are more.
Of course there may be exceptions. Tuam/Cortoon are the same parish with separate mens GAA club. Not sure if there is any other instance of 2 clubs with catchment areas completely inside 1 parish?

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 140 - 19/10/2020 16:20:08    2299250

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Carnmore hurling club is the hurling club for Claregalway parish.

renoir (Galway) - Posts: 63 - 20/10/2020 12:31:01    2299555

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Relegation final put back until Spring. Doubtful it will go ahead now at all.

Stripsandbanners (Galway) - Posts: 35 - 22/10/2020 15:30:35    2300252

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Any chance this getting rattled off pre xmas. I know I'd like it off my mind ASAP if I was involved

Sportsfanatic90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 48 - 17/11/2020 07:22:23    2310482

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MB are lodging a motion to scrap relegation for the 2021 season indicating that the 2020 relegation final will not go ahead Absolute disaster, the part of trying to get back to normal is by actually trying to get back to normal. No club league ok but championship is vital for all involved and on the lines

Sportsfanatic90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 48 - 27/01/2021 21:25:31    2329235

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Replying To Sportsfanatic90:  "MB are lodging a motion to scrap relegation for the 2021 season indicating that the 2020 relegation final will not go ahead Absolute disaster, the part of trying to get back to normal is by actually trying to get back to normal. No club league ok but championship is vital for all involved and on the lines"
MB are not lodging a motion.

Castlebar2019 (Mayo) - Posts: 5 - 28/01/2021 11:30:41    2329293

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Did I read correctly that there is a push to get the number of senior clubs down to 16 this year from Croke Park?
Why would they want this?
What advantage is it too counties to have this in place?
What incentive is there for smaller clubs to try and get to senior?
What would be wrong with 20 clubs 4 groups of 5. Top 2 each group in 1/4 final. Bottom 2 in relegation 1/4. No 3 in each stays put.
2 up 2 down each year.

galwaygoal (Galway) - Posts: 117 - 29/01/2021 15:25:50    2329560

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Replying To galwaygoal:  "Did I read correctly that there is a push to get the number of senior clubs down to 16 this year from Croke Park?
Why would they want this?
What advantage is it too counties to have this in place?
What incentive is there for smaller clubs to try and get to senior?
What would be wrong with 20 clubs 4 groups of 5. Top 2 each group in 1/4 final. Bottom 2 in relegation 1/4. No 3 in each stays put.
2 up 2 down each year."
I made this argument a few years ago when they reduced the number from 20 to 18 in Galway. Hard to see why we would need less senior teams given the last intermediate champions in Galway that got to compete outside the county went onto win the Intermediate All Ireland. (Oughterard).

Now what will normally happen is some clueless individual will come on and say "Oh look at Kerry, Kerry have only 8 or 12 senior football clubs. Kerry are great".
Well if Oughterard who were the 19th best club in Galway at the time (18 senior teams) and they could beat Templenoe who were the 9th or 13th best club in Kerry (depending on how many senior clubs they have), what is the need to reduce the number of senior football teams further? You would wonder

Totally agree with GalwayGoal on this

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 29/01/2021 16:10:13    2329574

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Hi galway goal. Your format looks ideal, and presumably that's why it's what Croke park want. You can't put ten teams into a quarter final.

renoir (Galway) - Posts: 63 - 30/01/2021 07:45:11    2329647

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Replying To renoir:  "Hi galway goal. Your format looks ideal, and presumably that's why it's what Croke park want. You can't put ten teams into a quarter final."
First placed team in every group into QF (5). Best second placed team into QF (6). Let the other four second placed teams play a preliminary QF. (8).

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 30/01/2021 10:02:17    2329654

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Replying To renoir:  "Hi galway goal. Your format looks ideal, and presumably that's why it's what Croke park want. You can't put ten teams into a quarter final."
The idea is that you have 4 groups of 5 teams not 5 groups of 4. Croke park want 16 senior teams in total. 4 groups of 4.

galwaygoal (Galway) - Posts: 117 - 30/01/2021 12:05:55    2329681

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Replying To galwaygoal:  "The idea is that you have 4 groups of 5 teams not 5 groups of 4. Croke park want 16 senior teams in total. 4 groups of 4."
Misread your original post. That system makes perfect sense. Everyone would be guaranteed at least 4 championship games and you definitely be relegating the worst teams at the bottom of groups of 5.

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 30/01/2021 12:35:04    2329688

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "Misread your original post. That system makes perfect sense. Everyone would be guaranteed at least 4 championship games and you definitely be relegating the worst teams at the bottom of groups of 5."
No problem at all. I think it is important to have the 20 teams with 2 up from Intermediate each year and 2 down.
4 Semi finalists seeded each year. 4 quality matches. Only downside is that each round 1 team wont be playing.
Still I think it has its merits.

galwaygoal (Galway) - Posts: 117 - 30/01/2021 16:19:52    2329728

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Apologies. Misread that. I would be a big advocate of brining senior down to 16. Much easier manage the competition. There are always a group of very poor quality senior teams in any given year. Going to 16 would enhance the standard of intermediate and bring on the overall standard of football in the county.

renoir (Galway) - Posts: 63 - 30/01/2021 17:19:45    2329737

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Replying To renoir:  "Apologies. Misread that. I would be a big advocate of brining senior down to 16. Much easier manage the competition. There are always a group of very poor quality senior teams in any given year. Going to 16 would enhance the standard of intermediate and bring on the overall standard of football in the county."
Intermediate needs to be reduced too many teams there too

Sportsfanatic90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 48 - 31/01/2021 16:14:20    2329840

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Replying To Sportsfanatic90:  "Intermediate needs to be reduced too many teams there too"
How is there too many teams in intermediate? There's 16 there. 4 groups of 4. It's a great competition most years where anyone can beat anyone on a given day. 5 intermediate winners in Galway have reached all Ireland football finals in the last 15 years if I'm not mistaken (Oughterard, Moycullen, Micheal's, Jameses & Caherlistrane)

What's your great idea for improving Galway football? Force middling-decent small clubs down to play north or west board junior. Ridiculous post, unfortunately these forums seem to be coming more rife with posts like yours.

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 31/01/2021 18:20:37    2329874

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