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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "Yes lets get 12 year old kids on S&C plans. No birthday parties, sweets or fizzy drinks. We need to get them on diet plans, creatine and protein.
You clearly don't have kids. Cop on." Stupid reply.
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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "Yes lets get 12 year old kids on S&C plans. No birthday parties, sweets or fizzy drinks. We need to get them on diet plans, creatine and protein.
You clearly don't have kids. Cop on." There's a reason why we are where we are. Smart Alec remarks like yours epitomise the lack of ambition that's prevalent in the county. Embarrassed to show any kind of ambition or professionalism. God forbid one of the lads might slag you. Better off to keep the head down and say nothing. Of course you'll ignore what I meant by age appropriate. Sure you might get a cheap laugh from one of your ilk.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 201 - 27/03/2025 09:49:55
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "Way too late to be starting at minor or even u15. The u13 Division 1 championship final was on the 26th of October 2024. Assuming some of those players are now over age and will be playing u15, the u15 division 1 league starts on the 31st of March. Five and a half months. The u13 league is a week later.
What effort has been made to approach the talent involved at those age levels? None. Yes, they're playing other sports but surely at some point during that period some kind of effort could have been made to identify the talent and at least establish some kind of contact.
Having had direct experience of the people that you'd assume would be tasked with this role it doesn't surprise me that this is just another failure and epitomises the lack of professionalism. Not only is it evident to parents, more importantly its more than evident to prospective players. An 11 or 12 year old can identify this and the days of having a captive audience that we assume will play for the jersey are long gone. They've plenty of options. I've said before that there's no need to be paid to act professionally. If you are being paid then you've no excuse.
As for flogging players? My very recent direct experience is that there was a complete overload of training and challenge matches leading into a championship campaign. The period before that was deathly quiet.
I've said before that where we're falling down is in the production of ordinary inter county players.
Players that are, at the very least, at their optimum in terms of S&C and are able to compete physically at inter county level. Stuff that takes no talent. We are not doing that and this year is all the proof anyone needs. It takes years to build up properly.
It needs to be rolled out much earlier. Get the talent on board at 12 or 13 years of age. As i said earlier, age appropriate. We have a unique set of circumstances and we need to harness what we have instead of hoping for a "great" minor team to come along once every generation. Being a talented footballer is of no use if you can't win your own ball or you can't hold onto the bloody thing if you go into contact.
As for the clubs complaining? There can be no argument that our existing model doesn't work. The vast majority of clubs are only interested in winning any kind of a trophy so they can drive around the parish yahooing. Player development is not their concern. Again, if you want proof then look at recent results.
Set higher standards. Show the players and their parents that it is being done properly. I've no reason to dispute the ability of Darragh Finn to do so or anyone else that is suitably qualified." "The vast majority of clubs are only interested in winning any kind of a trophy so they can drive around the parish yahooing"
That dear poster is what the GAA is all about, you must be from a parish that hasn't a hope of winning anything consistently or you wouldn't be talking like that.
Parish comes first, county second.
Imagine complaining about parishes wanting to win a trophy lol, very sad
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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: ""The vast majority of clubs are only interested in winning any kind of a trophy so they can drive around the parish yahooing"
That dear poster is what the GAA is all about, you must be from a parish that hasn't a hope of winning anything consistently or you wouldn't be talking like that.
Parish comes first, county second.
Imagine complaining about parishes wanting to win a trophy lol, very sad" You've endorsed my point and thanks for that. You do realise we're talking about the County team here?
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "You've endorsed my point and thanks for that. You do realise we're talking about the County team here?" County teams are a secondary concern, the thread is about Leitrim GAA in general.
If there are no clubs in the county fighting to be 'yahooing' about winning the most important competition in GAA...a county championship, then there won't be any county teams.
Thanks
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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "County teams are a secondary concern, the thread is about Leitrim GAA in general.
If there are no clubs in the county fighting to be 'yahooing' about winning the most important competition in GAA...a county championship, then there won't be any county teams.
Thanks" Again, you've endorsed my point. You'll eventually figure it out.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 201 - 27/03/2025 12:19:50
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Mea culpa. I should have been cognisant of the fact that are those amongst us that, both in mind and body, still rooted in their parish and their horizons extend no further than the parish boundary.
In my defence, its difficult in this day and age to appreciate that they still walk amongst us and, in their world, nothing else matters. It's even more difficult to be mindful of that when the vast majority of us, whether by choice or necessity, have broadened our horizons and accept that there's a world outside of the place we were reared.
I should have ignored the context of this discussion and instead focused on what's really important to these people. Will Gortlettragh juniors have a strong team this year? Pray tell will Mossy be fit for Eslin? How are Glenfarne shaping up? Will Mohill u15s be in Division 1 or 3 this year?
As I said, mea culpa!!!
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 201 - 27/03/2025 12:54:21
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "Mea culpa. I should have been cognisant of the fact that are those amongst us that, both in mind and body, still rooted in their parish and their horizons extend no further than the parish boundary.
In my defence, its difficult in this day and age to appreciate that they still walk amongst us and, in their world, nothing else matters. It's even more difficult to be mindful of that when the vast majority of us, whether by choice or necessity, have broadened our horizons and accept that there's a world outside of the place we were reared.
I should have ignored the context of this discussion and instead focused on what's really important to these people. Will Gortlettragh juniors have a strong team this year? Pray tell will Mossy be fit for Eslin? How are Glenfarne shaping up? Will Mohill u15s be in Division 1 or 3 this year?
As I said, mea culpa!!!" When it comes to the Gaelic Athletic Association then the parish boundary is all that matters, the county comes second and then if it were available the province comes third
You make it sound as if being rooted body and mind in one's parish is backward when it comes to these particular sports. Au contraire mon ami, that is where this organisation is at. There is no horizon more important than that, especially in our county where we don't have a hope of winning a major title in the foreseeable and indeed distant future.
Nobody mentioned anything about broadening horizons in a wider sense other than gaelic football or hurling. I suppose it is your attempt at being smart and showing off that because you may have visited Dublin a few times or indeed been off the island itself on occasion saints preserve us, this means that you are cosmopolitan and adventurous in your outlook.
More power to you. I wish we all had that wonderful sense of adventure. Some of wouldn't be able to keep up with you alas.
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Shane curran resigns citing player related issues beyond his management scope. Sounds awfully familiar! There is hope yet.
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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "When it comes to the Gaelic Athletic Association then the parish boundary is all that matters, the county comes second and then if it were available the province comes third
You make it sound as if being rooted body and mind in one's parish is backward when it comes to these particular sports. Au contraire mon ami, that is where this organisation is at. There is no horizon more important than that, especially in our county where we don't have a hope of winning a major title in the foreseeable and indeed distant future.
Nobody mentioned anything about broadening horizons in a wider sense other than gaelic football or hurling. I suppose it is your attempt at being smart and showing off that because you may have visited Dublin a few times or indeed been off the island itself on occasion saints preserve us, this means that you are cosmopolitan and adventurous in your outlook.
More power to you. I wish we all had that wonderful sense of adventure. Some of wouldn't be able to keep up with you alas." You're like a character from a McGahern novel. Do you give tours?
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Long term you'd be hoping the current management of u17s and u20s remains in place for the long haul or even go down to u15s aswell to create a proper environment to flourish. We are lacking so much at underage in terms of player development. But when the county board don't really care about it and haven't for the last 20 years that's the reason were left behind. We have good underage players absolutely but one must think that there naturally talented rather than nourished. It's a sad state of affairs all round. We would struggle in division 4 with the current panel we have and thank God we've a few years before we're over stateside again. Losing 2 in a row to the yanks could end it all for us
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Replying To Willies24: "Shane curran resigns citing player related issues beyond his management scope. Sounds awfully familiar! There is hope yet." If Leitrim are going to go for another out of county manager, which I think would be a bad idea, Shane Curran could well be a good fit. He is very capable but would also be more realistic on what is achievable. In terms of high achievement for Outside managers of lower ranked teams, Micko and Paudi are up there, but after Johnno's heroics in '94 and Moughan winning a Munster with Clare, Andy's efforts last year have to be up there too. His efforts with Monaghan have shown it was no fluke.
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Replying To martinjoe: "If Leitrim are going to go for another out of county manager, which I think would be a bad idea, Shane Curran could well be a good fit. He is very capable but would also be more realistic on what is achievable. In terms of high achievement for Outside managers of lower ranked teams, Micko and Paudi are up there, but after Johnno's heroics in '94 and Moughan winning a Munster with Clare, Andy's efforts last year have to be up there too. His efforts with Monaghan have shown it was no fluke." Curran would be a good fit for Mayo too, with Moran as co-manager. Give it a go
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Replying To martinjoe: "If Leitrim are going to go for another out of county manager, which I think would be a bad idea, Shane Curran could well be a good fit. He is very capable but would also be more realistic on what is achievable. In terms of high achievement for Outside managers of lower ranked teams, Micko and Paudi are up there, but after Johnno's heroics in '94 and Moughan winning a Munster with Clare, Andy's efforts last year have to be up there too. His efforts with Monaghan have shown it was no fluke." Ah Jesus Martin Jo you can't be serious!!
What makes you think Shane would be a good fit for Leitrim, especially after the way his Carlow journey ended.
Although a few contributors on here didn't like him, Andy Moran made good progress with Leitrim ,as you say.However his departure left a devoid .
Stephen Poucher has been dealt a difficult hand and few Leitrim Supporters are looking forward to the Connacht semi final against Mayo or Sligo.
However I expect he will have a team well prepared for the Tailteann Cup.
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 539 - 27/03/2025 21:51:06
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Replying To joeman123: "Ah Jesus Martin Jo you can't be serious!!
What makes you think Shane would be a good fit for Leitrim, especially after the way his Carlow journey ended.
Although a few contributors on here didn't like him, Andy Moran made good progress with Leitrim ,as you say.However his departure left a devoid .
Stephen Poucher has been dealt a difficult hand and few Leitrim Supporters are looking forward to the Connacht semi final against Mayo or Sligo.
However I expect he will have a team well prepared for the Tailteann Cup." Unfortunately I think there will be 4 more bad beatings coming our way. Maybe we can be competitive against whoever the number 4 seed is in the TC
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best of luck to the minors tonight, a tricky assignment away to Mayo.
meathbasedfan (Leitrim) - Posts: 158 - 28/03/2025 09:04:52
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Replying To joeman123: "Ah Jesus Martin Jo you can't be serious!!
What makes you think Shane would be a good fit for Leitrim, especially after the way his Carlow journey ended.
Although a few contributors on here didn't like him, Andy Moran made good progress with Leitrim ,as you say.However his departure left a devoid .
Stephen Poucher has been dealt a difficult hand and few Leitrim Supporters are looking forward to the Connacht semi final against Mayo or Sligo.
However I expect he will have a team well prepared for the Tailteann Cup." That's because he isn't being serious
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Replying To joeman123: "Ah Jesus Martin Jo you can't be serious!!
What makes you think Shane would be a good fit for Leitrim, especially after the way his Carlow journey ended.
Although a few contributors on here didn't like him, Andy Moran made good progress with Leitrim ,as you say.However his departure left a devoid .
Stephen Poucher has been dealt a difficult hand and few Leitrim Supporters are looking forward to the Connacht semi final against Mayo or Sligo.
However I expect he will have a team well prepared for the Tailteann Cup." The penny finally dropped Joeman? This lad is a joker a troll.
3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 392 - 28/03/2025 12:41:17
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