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Pretty uneventful day in the hurling tomorrow, Lucan already through to semi and next two places go to Crokes and Cuala who play one another in a totally meaningless game really. In Group one, Vincents need to beat Faughs to get a place in last six, which they ought to do, and semi final spot goes to winners of Fianna and Boden. Na Fianna should win that if they are anything near full strength and been improving all the while. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 15/09/2023 17:21:48 2504385 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Pretty uneventful day in the hurling tomorrow, Lucan already through to semi and next two places go to Crokes and Cuala who play one another in a totally meaningless game really. In Group one, Vincents need to beat Faughs to get a place in last six, which they ought to do, and semi final spot goes to winners of Fianna and Boden. Na Fianna should win that if they are anything near full strength and been improving all the while." Predictable outcomes. Cuala look very flat, I presume they will improve for the quarter finals and maybe have Con back but not going to win it, Vincents continue to impress and would not write them off. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 17/09/2023 10:33:06 2504480 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Predictable outcomes. Cuala look very flat, I presume they will improve for the quarter finals and maybe have Con back but not going to win it, Vincents continue to impress and would not write them off." Got the math wrong. Vinnies get the semi final spot along with Lucan. Quarter final sees finalists of last two years, Crokes and Na Fianna play off. Not sure what the story is with Donal Burke who has been out since badly injured for Dublin v Clare, They need him fit and well to have any chance of beating Crokes. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 17/09/2023 13:14:45 2504492 Link
I fear that the bookies odds - Crokes 2/7 - are probably an accurate enough predictor of the likely outcome of the quarter final between themselves and the once mighty Ballymun Kickhams. Kickhams will go down with boots on no doubt but without Paddy Small what chance they might have had is further reduced. Ballyboden should beat Castleknock with similar comfort but tomorrow there are too potentially cracking games. Cuala take on the all Ireland selection that is now Judes, and Vinnies and Raheny fight for the other semi final place. I reckon the bookies may have gotten the Vinnies one wrong again (9/4) - as previously advised in their last game! - and that they have good chance of beating Raheny. If Con and the bro and Mick Fitz are on form tomorrow Cuala can do likewise to Judes at a similar price although Judes have looked like the most likely challengers to Crokes for the title. Hopefully not. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 23/09/2023 12:22:12 2505301 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I fear that the bookies odds - Crokes 2/7 - are probably an accurate enough predictor of the likely outcome of the quarter final between themselves and the once mighty Ballymun Kickhams. Kickhams will go down with boots on no doubt but without Paddy Small what chance they might have had is further reduced. Ballyboden should beat Castleknock with similar comfort but tomorrow there are too potentially cracking games. Cuala take on the all Ireland selection that is now Judes, and Vinnies and Raheny fight for the other semi final place. I reckon the bookies may have gotten the Vinnies one wrong again (9/4) - as previously advised in their last game! - and that they have good chance of beating Raheny. If Con and the bro and Mick Fitz are on form tomorrow Cuala can do likewise to Judes at a similar price although Judes have looked like the most likely challengers to Crokes for the title. Hopefully not." Have Judes transferred in County players? Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 659 - 23/09/2023 13:38:15 2505318 Link
Replying To Yourjoking: "Have Judes transferred in County players?" Have they what!! Every Dublin club has country fellas, and naturally they are going to gravitate towards a big club if county standard, but Judes have - in some peoples opinion - abandoned their own system and packed the deck. Na Fianna did it successfully in past but hopefully it will fail this time. Crokes by the way got stick over Walsh but their panel is 95% lads who have come up from lowest age groups. Likewise when Cuala were successful. Darragh was teacher in the area and Shane was working in Dublin. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 23/09/2023 13:51:46 2505322 Link
Seems like the ref forgot his red card today. McCormack and P. Small both should have seen straight red. ROC committed 3 or 4 yellow card offences but stayed on the field. Not good enough. Rules are there to be enforced not ignored. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 24/09/2023 02:31:00 2505392 Link
Replying To Kurt_Angle: "Seems like the ref forgot his red card today. McCormack and P. Small both should have seen straight red. ROC committed 3 or 4 yellow card offences but stayed on the field. Not good enough. Rules are there to be enforced not ignored." That was some hit on Walsh after he kicked the last point. I don't like that sort of stuff, especially when the game is lost anyway and it is just badness. Rory is getting very cynical as he slows down! Good game though. Very high standard. Going to lash rain by looks of it today which will impact on the games. Still fancy Vinnies, BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 24/09/2023 12:24:58 2505419 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "That was some hit on Walsh after he kicked the last point. I don't like that sort of stuff, especially when the game is lost anyway and it is just badness. Rory is getting very cynical as he slows down! Good game though. Very high standard. Going to lash rain by looks of it today which will impact on the games. Still fancy Vinnies," Cuala at least deserving of a draw. Made some horrendous errors when 4 up and missed great chance to level at the end. So the all stars go ahead. Vinnies stick with Raheny but very poor up front second half. Crokes v Raheny semi - only one winner there Judes v Boden. Would normally be on side of demons from hell v Boden but not this time. Judes probably, and hopefully hammered in final by Crokes. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 24/09/2023 17:46:29 2505449 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Cuala at least deserving of a draw. Made some horrendous errors when 4 up and missed great chance to level at the end. So the all stars go ahead. Vinnies stick with Raheny but very poor up front second half. Crokes v Raheny semi - only one winner there Judes v Boden. Would normally be on side of demons from hell v Boden but not this time. Judes probably, and hopefully hammered in final by Crokes." Cuala should have saw the game out and won. BK will be kicking themselves also - 10pts scored with 8 wides, and 17 turnovers during the game. Super effort without the injured Jamesie. Evan had a great game in goals with some crucial saves, and 17/19 successful kickouts. John Small was top notch - great player and led by example driving the team on. Great to see Raheny make the semi finals for the first time in 20years, I think it is. Crokes v Boden final for me, and have a sneaky feeling Boden might upset the odds tbh. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3606 - 28/09/2023 21:11:34 2506163 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Agree Joxer it will be 5 or 6. If I was a betting man I would be on: Clucko Mick Fitz Jamesie Fento Cormac - (never got one before which I think could be a factor also tbh. They seem to balance things up a lot with their choices) with Mannion and Collie just missing out." With the nominations just out, I am sticking with above. If we get a 6th I go with Collie. Delighted to see Lee , Paul, Con and BH also get nominated. Especially Lee making that breakthrough. DC is a Cert for POTY now also. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3606 - 29/09/2023 07:48:00 2506177 Link
Replying To Fionn: "With the nominations just out, I am sticking with above. If we get a 6th I go with Collie. Delighted to see Lee , Paul, Con and BH also get nominated. Especially Lee making that breakthrough. DC is a Cert for POTY now also." I think you have it just about spot on Basquel wil feel hard done if he doesn't get one though, didn't he end up with the largest tally from play, incredible year and despite finding it tough going against Kerry, he absolutely proved his worth with crucial scores and match winning contributions when it really mattered in the biggest game of his career, I'm hoping this is a launching point season for him, I think his best days could still be ahead of him, he's a game changer. Id like to see Cormac get one though, he did a team job in the final, he had a specific job to do and he ran himself into the ground, he was sheer class in the semifinal against Monaghan, he was near faultless and up front he carried the team in the first half, he had a great championship across the board. On Fenton, there's no denying his huge contributions, massive when it counted against Monaghan and he had a big final, but I don't think he was the best player across the year. It'll definitely go to Clifford. He was also operating under tyecvert worst of circumstances and I applaud him and his brother for it, and the commitment they displayed. I'd rather see him win that, then watch him lift a two in a row against Dublin though... ;) jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20577 - 29/09/2023 11:56:04 2506227 Link
Gents! Does the nominations for player of the year not put a doubt on James Mc even getting an all-star. Will Fenton and Rodgers now be assured of midfield even though McCarthy was nominated there can he still be accommodated in the half backs? I'm not sure! Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 179 - 29/09/2023 16:55:22 2506292 Link
Replying To Onion_Sack: "Gents! Does the nominations for player of the year not put a doubt on James Mc even getting an all-star. Will Fenton and Rodgers now be assured of midfield even though McCarthy was nominated there can he still be accommodated in the half backs? I'm not sure!" Jamesie will get his All Star in the half backs. Not the first time a player gets an All Star in a different position than his nomination. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3606 - 30/09/2023 14:14:56 2506371 Link
That was a shock! Crokes in fairness kept coming back but Na Fianna were not up for another heartbreak today. Excellent performance without Donal and Tierney who had to go off injured. Curries and AJ were magnificent but would be unfair to pick anyone out. Rushie too was steady influence when they might have had the head staggers. Hard to call a winner now. Boden possibly be too strong for Vinnies, but impossible to know how good Lucan might be and they are coming back off a ridiculous break that makes mockery of whole club season thing. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 01/10/2023 19:05:03 2506490 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "That was a shock! Crokes in fairness kept coming back but Na Fianna were not up for another heartbreak today. Excellent performance without Donal and Tierney who had to go off injured. Curries and AJ were magnificent but would be unfair to pick anyone out. Rushie too was steady influence when they might have had the head staggers. Hard to call a winner now. Boden possibly be too strong for Vinnies, but impossible to know how good Lucan might be and they are coming back off a ridiculous break that makes mockery of whole club season thing." Boden for the Double might be a good outside bet.... Was not overly surprised NF won tbh. Lucan defo lying in the long grass.... ;o) Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3606 - 02/10/2023 09:30:38 2506550 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Boden for the Double might be a good outside bet.... Was not overly surprised NF won tbh. Lucan defo lying in the long grass.... ;o)" I half fancied Crokes to at least win Leinster. Ballyhale were blessed to get past Dicksboro yesterday and seem to be running out of road and Dublin champions avoid Kilkenny to final if they get there. Don't think any of the four remaining teams will get that far however as first year champions. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1938 - 02/10/2023 10:03:38 2506556 Link