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Non-Gaa Forum - 3 Like(s)

Replying To SaffronDon:  "I simply laid out the pretext to the current predicament in Gaza. If you want to accuse me of being a Hamas supporter, which im not, you might want to reflect a little on the amount of defending you are doing of a terrorist state who's atrocities stack up far beyond anything that Hamas is even capable of doing. A state that has attacked 9 countries around the middle east while simultaneously stealing more and more Palestinian land, yet you keep providing them with indirect justification for doing so by blaming everything they do on Hamas, just as they do. I'm glad you weren't about 100 years ago on this Island."
Blames everything on October 7th but doesn't ask himself how it was allowed to happen on the doorstep of the world's most protected country and informed army. Like the rest of them.

peiledoir20 (National) - 07/03/2026 21:05:31

Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Paul Keegan could be instrumental in this years senior championship

Madformulty2000 (National) - 07/03/2026 10:10:57

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To SaffronDon:  "I simply laid out the pretext to the current predicament in Gaza. If you want to accuse me of being a Hamas supporter, which im not, you might want to reflect a little on the amount of defending you are doing of a terrorist state who's atrocities stack up far beyond anything that Hamas is even capable of doing. A state that has attacked 9 countries around the middle east while simultaneously stealing more and more Palestinian land, yet you keep providing them with indirect justification for doing so by blaming everything they do on Hamas, just as they do. I'm glad you weren't about 100 years ago on this Island."
Should probably change his name to Hasbara at this stage.

peiledoir20 (National) - 07/03/2026 17:00:33

Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Pres Athenry into the final against St Kierans. Didn't really hurl that well today in attack but they were at least more efficient than Flannan's who had a horrid amount of wides. A lot of good performances in defence for Pres. Kierans will be favourites in the final but Pres might have a chance if they could get Ronan Murphy and Matthew Cloonan back from injury. Frank Burke also out injured is a huge loss. It would be a bit mad if this is the year Pres win it when they lost last year's final with a team that had four current Galway senior players on it.

galway19 (National) - 07/03/2026 14:43:07

Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
We can agree to disagree but I don't understand how my posts are "passionate" and "War and Peace" and your posts are just cool headed objective analysis is it? Waving away performances in the Ulster finals because it doesn't fit what you're saying. We're all passionate about Donegal football here, but you seem to want to put some other reason behind my opinion of Ryan other than the truth - I think he's one of our most important players and you don't leave that on the bench in my opinion.

I made no comment about whether you attend matches, you brought it up by questioning if I've "actually been to Donegal matches in recent seasons"

Anyway we won't agree on this and not much point going in circles

CCFabu (National) - 07/03/2026 14:33:56

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "The Egyptians closed their border with Gaza too. Of course the Israelis don't want a Palestinian State next door. Why would they after the last 80 odd years of fighting between the 2?
Im not saying they are right in not wanting it by the way, only stating a fact.
The current Israeli regime definitely dont want peace. But that might change following the next elections there.
The current regime ruling Gaza, Hamas, never wanted peace either. And still dont. Only they won't be voted out anytime soon."
You mean, why would they want a Palestinian state next door when they are pushing for the greater Israel project? Go and research exactly what the people of Israel believe they are entitled to in the middle east. It might shock you how much of it is already is undeniably in motion at this stage.

If you listen to what other Israeli potential candidates say about Palestinians, you would be extremely naive to think that the current regime are the only one who dont want peace and equality there.

Hamas wont be voted out any time soon because Israel wont let it happen. Hamas actually welcomed elections along with the UN but Israel wouldn't allow Arab residents in Jerusalem the right to vote, as was previously agreed upon. A supremacist state is impossible to negotiate with and that's the bottom line over there. Hamas could be dealt with one way or another if standard procedures were allowed to take place. But as things stand, Israel just looks like another version of a certain regime from the 1930s.

SaffronDon (National) - 07/03/2026 13:22:38

Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "I've tried to be reasonable with you.
I'm done talking to you about this because you don't address my points and go on about what suits you and which I never even argued about.
The Westmeath "tiered system" is not like any classic tier system around the world so don't be lecturing people about what a tiered system looks like and how it works because the Westmeath system doesn't follow the classic tiered system pyramid. You don't think relegation is a major issue. You only are worring about what suits your club and at the same time accusing another club of the same thing."
You are the one who is being unreasonable.I havent been involved in this discussion because to anyone who cares about quality,the notion of the ninth best team qualifying for the quarter finals and the fourth best team not is simply ludicrous and will in the long term do harm to our county team. High quality competition improves players whilst this nonsense will reward laziness.
For teams outside Lomans,The Downs and possibly Kinnegad its clearly an advantage to be playing in the glorified Intermediate championship who can reach senior quarter finals by being third.
But to be fair the hurling clubs took the pain and reduced their senior championship which has led to two excellent lower tier championships whilst the football clubs cant agree on anything allowing the board to lead us to no proper championships,no training fields and no money

jobber (National) - 07/03/2026 13:11:20

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want peace. Thats why there isnt peace there, and wont be while those 2 parties are in government of Israel and Gaza."
You didn't answer the question. If you think the current attitude by the Government in Israel is the problem, then you do not understand the history of the Zionists movement and its origins. The concept of an Israel began with the British as a mixture of Christian orthodox and anti semitic views - the only way the second coming of Christ could happen is if the Jews occupied the holy land and at which point if they did not convert they would be dammed to hell. However it also solved their Jewish problem. Today most Jewish people in Israel believe the same story you are talking about because if they didn't, they would really be troubled by what their state represents. Jewish people have been demonised by Christians not Muslims however its the Muslims who have paid the price for Christianity. Before anyone talks about well us good Christian Irish people had nothing to do with it, then look again at how we and the rest of the world respond to Hitler.

zinny (National) - 07/03/2026 13:05:31

Wicklow GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Carlin and Brennan the names. Plenty of players going to walk away too. Bad for Wicklow. Our players back with clib

heavyheart19 (National) - 07/03/2026 13:03:38

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "The Arabs have tried to wipe Israel off the map on several occasions. The fact that they havent been able to doesn't make them better or more likeable people than the Israelis are."
Well there's no one less likeable in the world at the minute than the genocidal state.

peiledoir20 (National) - 07/03/2026 12:48:30

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To zinny:  "What country has called for the destruction of Israel?
Non recognition is not the same as calling for destruction, in addition nearly all those who do not recognise Israel call for a two state solution.
Hamas Islamic Jihad are resistance movements, who represents people who have been expelled from their homeland by Israel so what do you expect them to say? Is it not the same for NI? Although Barney would point out that SF have accepted it."
Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want peace. Thats why there isnt peace there, and wont be while those 2 parties are in government of Israel and Gaza.

Viking66 (National) - 07/03/2026 11:17:10

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "Hamas have always stated they want the end of the Israeli State. By any means. And they couldve called an election any time since 2007, except they eliminated the opposition party in Gaza.
I can't believe anyone here would be a Hamas supporter."
I simply laid out the pretext to the current predicament in Gaza. If you want to accuse me of being a Hamas supporter, which im not, you might want to reflect a little on the amount of defending you are doing of a terrorist state who's atrocities stack up far beyond anything that Hamas is even capable of doing. A state that has attacked 9 countries around the middle east while simultaneously stealing more and more Palestinian land, yet you keep providing them with indirect justification for doing so by blaming everything they do on Hamas, just as they do. I'm glad you weren't about 100 years ago on this Island.

SaffronDon (National) - 07/03/2026 16:06:25

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "I did answer this. I thought it was a rhetorical question you were asking. But the answer is that nearly all the Arab states have openly stated they wanted Israel destroyed, and most of them have stated this repeatedly since 1947, although not so much this millennium. And some, pretty much all Israels neighbours, have tried to achieve this by force.
That doesn't of course justify what Israel is doing currently in Gaza, but as I said before it should explain to you why Israel is the way it is."
What i am looking for is an example - please supply the evidence. 1947 or 1948 is not today.

zinny (National) - 07/03/2026 16:32:40

€78 Million Fitzgerald Stadium Makeover - A GAA Priority? - 1 Like(s)

Replying To GaryMc82:  "With all the huffing and puffing by posters all over the Country about the need for Casement Park in Belfast to be the Ulster GAA Provincial stadium, despite the restrictions that imposes on what we badly need (Capacity limitations etc).
I now see Kerry GAA proceeding with two Stadium ventures, one with major government and GAA backing,

Austin Stack park in Tralee getting a €2 million upgrade, to bring its capacity to 14,500, privately funded by over 100 local business people.

Fitzgerald Stadium in Killarney is now earmarked for €78 million upgrade, to transform it into a modern year round stadium for matches, concerts and events with initial funding of €6 million already secured.

The GAA's National infrastructure committee was meeting in Croke Park last year, and somehow a major redevelopment of Fitzgerald Stadium was on the agenda as a priority.

How did this ever become a priority for the GAA and Irish Government, when Kerry are currently lucky to fill Fitzgerald Stadium once every few years?

Munster is already overloaded with large stadiums, including Pairc Ui Chaoimh in Cork City which isn't that far from Killarney, which they GAA had to bail out not so long ago. The Gaelic Grounds in Limerick, Semple Stadium in Thurles, all huge capacity grounds. I think there need to be a major investigation into how this became a priority, and maybe the GAA needs to publish its priority list for stadium/ground development, Fitzgerald Stadium is already miles ahead of most stadiums/grounds in Ulster, Leinster, and even Connacht in terms of capacity etc."
Upgrading Fitzgerald stadium shouldn't be a priority. You're right that's rarely if ever full. It would cork to improve a good bit yet to even be filled the once every two years. With new championship structure a high profile match with the likes of a Dublin might bring a full house but that's it.

Pairc ui chaomh struggles a little with its size for concerts. A little too small for the huge stadium gigs and then too big for smaller gigs. Kilarney will fall in the same bucket

For what it is the terraces are very good in kilarney. Maybe a new stand in due course but certainly not a 78million investment.

I was at the armagh vs Donegal match in armagh and their stadium should be a goal for each county. A very decent seated that with good terracing around the rest of the pitch.

Other money should then be aimed at pitches that suit out climate. All weather pitches around the place to allow for the wet winters as an example.

Ulsterchamps_32 (National) - 07/03/2026 10:54:00

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To peiledoir20:  "Should probably change his name to Hasbara at this stage."
Really couldnt care less what you call me Yahya

Viking66 (National) - 07/03/2026 18:25:44

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "Im not doing any defending of them. Read my texts again. Im only trying to explain to you and a few other posters what way they think, and why they think that way.
There's plenty on here blaming them for the current plight of the Palestinians, and therefore implicitly justifying what Hamas are and what they have done and are doing. I personally think both are equally to blame.
Also I dont think there's any difference morally between Hamas and Netanyahus government. The only difference currently is that Hamas is losing the war."
The only difference is that one of them is an illegal occupying force. You can dress it up any other way you'd like to, but you shouldn't need reminding of the effect of an occupying force on a people.

SaffronDon (National) - 07/03/2026 19:26:03

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "This Island is a totally different situation to Palestine.
The only thing it has in common is that alot of the present situation was caused by the British."
Not only caused, but the same placement of settlers with more human rights than the locals. An army that could act with impunity on the native people including starvation tactics. There are quite a few similarities when you really look at it with a clear head.

SaffronDon (National) - 07/03/2026 19:34:34

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "There are approximately 2 million non Jewish Palestinians, as opposed to Jewish Palestinians of which I dont know how many there are in Israel, who are Israeli citizens and live in Israel. Muslims, Christians and Druze. They make up approximately 20% of the population. Apparently they have equal rights to jobs, education, health, the vote etc.
Im not saying by that that Israel is some sort of Utopian society BTW, and if I lived there I certainly wouldn't be voting for their current government.
On the other hand the people of Gaza voted in Hamas, over Fatah (the old PLO). Hamas then eliminated most of the Fatah party in Gaza, and have never held an election there again since."
You must joking, right? Gaza is also under the control of Israel, do you need any further example of how non domecractic Israel is than that? When they cut off food, water,electricity, borders, airspace whenever they want.

The Israeli government financed Hamas via Qatar for years to increase division and instability in the region. This is all fact. You can read it multiple places. Why would a regime do that if they had any intention of peace?

SaffronDon (National) - 07/03/2026 08:21:25

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To SaffronDon:  "Not only caused, but the same placement of settlers with more human rights than the locals. An army that could act with impunity on the native people including starvation tactics. There are quite a few similarities when you really look at it with a clear head."
There is no excuse for what Israel is doing. I was inclined to be sympathetic for historical reasons including their beating the Brits.

They've exhausted that credit. They seem determined to drag world into their mess. For first time in my life i can see Europe descending into chaos and horror again.

BarneyGrant (National) - 07/03/2026 21:23:10

Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To eddieSize5Balls:  "Big ask for donegal to get to a 3rd in a row imo. We are on the tough side of things too. Ulster isn't the be all and end all anymore."
I get with the All Ireland format now, winning Ulster isn't considered a benefit, but I'm not sharing the "Scrap the Provincials" narrative. Winning Ulster mean so much to the majority of players and Counties in Ulster, you can see that when Cavan, Derry, Donegal, Monaghan etc win titles, the crowds etc. Massive thing, it should be protected and ring fenced.

Moving away from the Provincials probably benefits Kerry and Dublin most, as Munster and Leinster Championships had been neglected by the GAA for decades, while they are both in the top 2 or 3 funded Counties in Ireland, and they had zero competition at Provincial level most years. They now want to scrap the Provincials.

GaryMc82 (National) - 07/03/2026 22:15:32