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Donegal GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Just sharing for anyone who might be interested. I looked back over the last 50-60 years to look at success rates within Ulster. Not only in who has won it most, but also looking looked at Ulster finalists too, as reaching the final is no easy feat most years. then I divided it into 1960 - 1989 and 1990 - 2024, to see the trends.
1960 - 2024 (64 years)
Most Ulster Senior titles
1. Tyrone = 14
2. Down = 11
3. Donegal & Armagh = 10.
4. Derry = 8
5. Cavan = 6
6. Monaghan = 5
7. Antrim & Fermanagh = 0
1960 - 2024 (64 Years)
Most Ulster final appearances
1. Donegal = 26
2. Down = 24
3. Tyrone = 19
4. Armagh = 16
5. Cavan & Derry = 15
6. Monaghan = 9
7. Fermanagh = 3
8. Antrim = 2
1990 - 2024 (34 years)
Most Ulster Senior titles
Tyrone = 10
Donegal & Armagh = 7
Derry = 4
Down, Cavan & Monaghan = 2
1990 - 2024 (34 Years)
Most Ulster final appearances
Donegal = 19
Tyrone = 12
Armagh = 9
Derry = 8
Down = 7
Monaghan = 6
Cavan = 5
In summary, Ulster football has seen a power shift in the last 34 from the previous 30 years, with Down and Cavan being replaced by Tyrone and Donegal as the big two who on average tend to win more Ulster Championship games that others, with Armagh and Derry not far behind. Now Donegal have a lost a lot of finals, but statistically they have been a growing power in Ulster and generally win more Ulster Championship games than most and they are currently in the Top 2 with Tyrone for the last 34 years.
I next want to cross-reference that with underage success at Minor and U20/U21 now to see the relevance of underage success in determining senior success.
Commodore (National) - 26/04/2024 14:55:39
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Referees in football are far too fussy and continually blow up for the slightest of contact sometimes even penalising the attacking player who could break clear only to be blown up for a free in .. thus infuriating both players and supporters… Hurling referees seem to let a lot more physical contact go and those players have a weapon in their hands… GAA need to sort out this mess as regards the quality of referees
ForeverBlue2 (National) - 26/04/2024 10:07:59
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Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Interesting team selection for Sunday. Really like the look of it and looking forward to see how it goes against a good Kilkenny team. C Mannion, C Cooney and C Whelan in the full forward is strong. David Burke and R.Glennon at midfield. The whole team has a good balance to it and I would be expecting them to deliver a winning performance.
katser (National) - 26/04/2024 11:23:11
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To sligo joe: "So basically you want to reward the defensive team that stay in their own half pretty much all of the game and maybe try and sneak a win late on?" Don't you think thats whats happening now?
brianb (National) - 26/04/2024 14:12:22
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "The entire issue is the tackle rule. Massed defences are the symptom, not the problem. Fix the problem.
Shot clocks, reducing numbers, limiting field positions etc. all miss the point entirely." The entire issue is the tackle rule? Seriously?
Lads this place is bananas.
TheFlaker (National) - 26/04/2024 15:20:01
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Roscommon GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
A lot to like about U17s in action Ballinamore tonight as we win by nine points. Good work rate,team play, High turn over count and scored 2-15. We had 8 wides and one good goal chance saved on top of what was scored.
Sligo to close out the group stage next Friday, looking like semi final spot at best for us as Mayo are unlikely to slip up in remaining games.
The_analyser (National) - 26/04/2024 20:45:55
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Newyorkkat: "KK missing 4 for Sunday. Cody, Mullen, goalkeeper and Carey." Well if Galway dont win Sunday against that kk team they wont be going too far pity we are not playing them this Sunday.
Tiger1 (National) - 26/04/2024 20:46:47
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "I have nothing but admiration for TJ......fantastic achievement and dedication to keep himself in such excellent consistently good condition.
Tony Brown, the "brick" Walsh and Big Dan all had long hurling spells with Waterford but I reckon TJ has the record." I'd agree with you re TJ Reid but would add that he has won a good few AI medals with his county. He can have no complaints. I have more admiration for the likes of Tony Brown, Ciaran Carey, Ollie Canning and other fantastic hurlers who kept it going for years on teams that weren't good enough or lucky enough to win an All Ireland.
baire (National) - 26/04/2024 08:54:11
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Galway9801: "While we're mentioning TJ Reid, as far as I'm aware this is his 16th season at inter county. TJ is a class act. Hats off to him. Its actually his 17th season of InterCounty and thats not including 2007 when he won an celtic cross as an extended member of Kilkinny squad when they sent Limerick home early. The only other one id compare him to is Pa Horgan who is equally long tenure and just as good. 2 icons of our game.
clare_sparrow (National) - 26/04/2024 08:58:06
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Sunday Game - 1 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Fitzmaurice was in charge of Kerry for 6 years not 7 and he did manage an All Ireland when least expected.Kerry only lost 5 championship matches i/c of Kerry and 3 of those were tight games against Dublin .As Barney posted he also did great work with his school winning All Irelands no one expected.He was nt a bad manager and he is very knowledgeable." Knowkedgeable alright.
He gives analysis on the game he's watching rather than tell you what you've already seen on camera with a few clichés thrown in.
Seanfanbocht (National) - 26/04/2024 09:00:29
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Do some of you lads on here go for a heap of pints and then write down ideas?" I'm not sure, I know where the lads are coming from. Do you not find it ridiculous how easy referees give frees nowadays?. Some of the frees given are terrible, as soon as there is any contact with the ball carrier immediately a free.
Looking back a few pages people here said we can't expect referees to use common sense to judge when the defender went too far in putting a tackle like they used to years ago and they can only go by what's in the rule book.
GreenMan1987 (National) - 26/04/2024 09:16:42
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Saynothing: "RTÉ come in for some criticism but they have to get praise for this programme on the cowardly murder of family man Sean Brown." I agree, an excellent programme. It made me very angry to see what that lovely family had to endure - all the state collusion and lies, similar to what is happening to the poor Palestinians at the moment.
baire (National) - 26/04/2024 09:18:20
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To bdbuddah: "At the moment in terms of game plans moving the ball directly has a big element of risk.
Playing a possession game has less risk as keeping possession is fairly easy.
If we put more risk into playing the possession game (increase chances for tackler to make turn overs) teams may be less inclined to play possession style and more inclined to play direct attacking football.
To play direct successfully you would need to leave players forward.
Regarding more stoppages, I don't necessarily think there would be more stoppages as it may help change the mindset towards moving the ball quicker.
Also remember the aim of this is just to put in writing the way years ago the referees used to referee the tackle." I think you're right there. Teams aren't inclined to take a risk in possession and hence play keep ball and often move the ball backwards.
I'd like to see a trial of 2 basketball rules in football. The over and back rule and a shot clock:
Over and Back: Once the ball is played beyond the 70 - the team in possession cannot retreat outside the 70 - this then allows the defending team to push up and makes keep ball more difficult.
A shot clock - once you enter the 70 the team has a maximum of 75 seconds to use possession.
The aim would be to balance the risk of moving the ball quickly down field and holding onto it to play a possession game.
brianb (National) - 26/04/2024 10:47:36
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To WanPintWin: "The record of championship seasons played? One of the men you mentioned, Tony Browne hurled for over 20 championship seasons, so TJ has a bit to go there yet.
I believe TJ does have the record of championship appearances though. It's some career." Tony Brown over 20 inter County Championship seasons or are you including when he retired from County hurling but played Senior Club Championship?
katser (National) - 26/04/2024 10:50:18
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To baire: "I'd agree with you re TJ Reid but would add that he has won a good few AI medals with his county. He can have no complaints. I have more admiration for the likes of Tony Brown, Ciaran Carey, Ollie Canning and other fantastic hurlers who kept it going for years on teams that weren't good enough or lucky enough to win an All Ireland." It's the consistency of his playing ability regarding TJ Reid....I don't think I have ever seen him play poorly in all those games. His free taking is just always so accurate
katser (National) - 26/04/2024 10:56:09
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "It's the consistency of his playing ability regarding TJ Reid....I don't think I have ever seen him play poorly in all those games. His free taking is just always so accurate" That's true, he has it all, all the skills with low or high ball and when he's sidelined it's noticeable.
baire (National) - 26/04/2024 11:50:36
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "Interesting team selection for Sunday. Really like the look of it and looking forward to see how it goes against a good Kilkenny team. C Mannion, C Cooney and C Whelan in the full forward is strong. David Burke and R.Glennon at midfield. The whole team has a good balance to it and I would be expecting them to deliver a winning performance." Agreed. I think 1-9 and the FF line looks solid. Maybe a bit light in the half forward line but J Cooney and Glynn on the each so could be brought on (either at HF or FF line) and shuffle the front 6 accordingly.
The_DOC (National) - 26/04/2024 12:06:43
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "Tony Brown over 20 inter County Championship seasons or are you including when he retired from County hurling but played Senior Club Championship?" No, intercounty only. Tony Browne made his senior championship debut for Waterford in 1992. He retired after the 2013 season. He didn't play championship in 1993, but I believe he played every other year.
WanPintWin (National) - 26/04/2024 12:31:12
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To The_DOC: "Agreed. I think 1-9 and the FF line looks solid. Maybe a bit light in the half forward line but J Cooney and Glynn on the each so could be brought on (either at HF or FF line) and shuffle the front 6 accordingly." Cathal Mannion will be out and around that area, as will Conor Cooney potentially
I'd imagine Cooney/Concannon will be swapping throughout the game
Kinvara (National) - 26/04/2024 13:02:55
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To WanPintWin: "No, intercounty only. Tony Browne made his senior championship debut for Waterford in 1992. He retired after the 2013 season. He didn't play championship in 1993, but I believe he played every other year." KK missing 4 for Sunday. Cody, Mullen, goalkeeper and Carey.
Newyorkkat (National) - 26/04/2024 13:08:47
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