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Replying To Bernardo: "Jack plays his best football before the ground hardens and then he fades again the better teams . Jack is very skillful but lacks pace.
Great win yesterday . Hope we give Ulster our best go because its 10 years since the Anglo Celt cup resided in Monaghan." Cavan to find the going tough in ulster this year as there not meeting monaghan the holy grale for cavan same could be said for all the cavan team as jack sure isn't that how yous won an ulster in WINTER
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Replying To Shelbourne1: "RTE Podcast panel seems to conclude that awarding 2 points for frees not fair on Monaghan's opponents because Rory Beggan kicks them so easily LOL" Hopefully he has a long Summer so they can watch him all they want kicking them
stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 227 - 31/03/2025 21:27:14
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Replying To Shelbourne1: "RTE Podcast panel seems to conclude that awarding 2 points for frees not fair on Monaghan's opponents because Rory Beggan kicks them so easily LOL" GAA pundits are so reactive and illogical when quality players like Beggan take advantage of new possibilities in the rules to gain a competitive advantage (especially if they're from an Ulster county). The relentless pressure on finding ways to get goalies back into their nets when Beggan, Morgan etc. started developing their skills and changing the game, was so dumb. It reminded me of people roaring "kick it!", "kick it!" at young lads whenever possession football was developing, and obviously more effective then lumping it forward into 40/60 contests.
Beggan needs to keep doing what he's doing. It's up to other teams to quit fouling in that area, and that might give our forwards a bit more space to get off their shots from play or make breaks inside.
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Replying To MunnionOfMunnionHill: "GAA pundits are so reactive and illogical when quality players like Beggan take advantage of new possibilities in the rules to gain a competitive advantage (especially if they're from an Ulster county). The relentless pressure on finding ways to get goalies back into their nets when Beggan, Morgan etc. started developing their skills and changing the game, was so dumb. It reminded me of people roaring "kick it!", "kick it!" at young lads whenever possession football was developing, and obviously more effective then lumping it forward into 40/60 contests.
Beggan needs to keep doing what he's doing. It's up to other teams to quit fouling in that area, and that might give our forwards a bit more space to get off their shots from play or make breaks inside." Kicking 2 poiner frees is a fabulous skill and it's a big incentive to stop fouling from distance. Furthermore, the argument seems to go that the 2 pointed free is almost as good as a goal. Well, why not increase a goal to 4 points and then that argument is dissolved ? Or maybe Monaghan are too good at scoring goals too ........LOL
Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 398 - 01/04/2025 16:01:58
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Replying To MunnionOfMunnionHill: "GAA pundits are so reactive and illogical when quality players like Beggan take advantage of new possibilities in the rules to gain a competitive advantage (especially if they're from an Ulster county). The relentless pressure on finding ways to get goalies back into their nets when Beggan, Morgan etc. started developing their skills and changing the game, was so dumb. It reminded me of people roaring "kick it!", "kick it!" at young lads whenever possession football was developing, and obviously more effective then lumping it forward into 40/60 contests.
Beggan needs to keep doing what he's doing. It's up to other teams to quit fouling in that area, and that might give our forwards a bit more space to get off their shots from play or make breaks inside." The two point free outside of the arc has to be maintained, or otherwise, with a team trailing by 1 or 2 points with time nearly up, there will be tactical fowling outside the arc to not allow them get a 2 pointer. The level of puditry at times on these podcosts leaves a lot to be desired and I normally enjoy the RTE GAA one but the three pundits seem to have missed that point.
The argument they gave for the screamer of an offaly goal only meriting 3 points was valid but should it be worth more then a guy fisting in a goal from a rebound at close range ? maybe they need to award 3 points for a goal scored from inside the 13m line and 4 points for a goal scored from outside the 20m line.. that'd solve their problem.. :) or just leave it as it is, we have enough rules at thie point.
SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 148 - 01/04/2025 16:37:40
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Replying To SouthMonMan: "The two point free outside of the arc has to be maintained, or otherwise, with a team trailing by 1 or 2 points with time nearly up, there will be tactical fowling outside the arc to not allow them get a 2 pointer. The level of puditry at times on these podcosts leaves a lot to be desired and I normally enjoy the RTE GAA one but the three pundits seem to have missed that point.
The argument they gave for the screamer of an offaly goal only meriting 3 points was valid but should it be worth more then a guy fisting in a goal from a rebound at close range ? maybe they need to award 3 points for a goal scored from inside the 13m line and 4 points for a goal scored from outside the 20m line.. that'd solve their problem.. :) or just leave it as it is, we have enough rules at thie point." No scores off the hand, pr from a ball put in flight from.the hand. Job done.
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1169 - 01/04/2025 19:04:12
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Replying To Shelbourne1: "Kicking 2 poiner frees is a fabulous skill and it's a big incentive to stop fouling from distance. Furthermore, the argument seems to go that the 2 pointed free is almost as good as a goal. Well, why not increase a goal to 4 points and then that argument is dissolved ? Or maybe Monaghan are too good at scoring goals too ........LOL" The 4pt goal would have been great and was again abandoned in a reactive way after a few articles and grumbles after the trial games with the provinces. Think it should have been kept, but the 2pters are a huge addition, and add loads to the game. And a goal is still a huge swing in a match.
MunnionOfMunnionHill (Monaghan) - Posts: 11 - 01/04/2025 21:49:44
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Replying To Farneyblueandwhite: "Cavan to find the going tough in ulster this year as there not meeting monaghan the holy grale for cavan same could be said for all the cavan team as jack sure isn't that how yous won an ulster in WINTER" I am a Monaghan man and like alot of Monaghan folk outside the barony of farney ( which is located in south east Monaghan) I do not like Monaghan being referred to as the English invention Farney. Baronies are an English invention . I prefer the ballybetaghs that existed prior to the barony
Monaghan have left behind 1 or 2 Ulster titles since 2015. Our aim should be to try and win Ulster and then take it from there . We have never won Sam so not sure 2025:is going to change that.
Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 609 - 02/04/2025 00:34:20
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Inniskeen getting some bad coverage due to lines not being marked out for the hurling final last weekend.
It's a pity as it is a magnificent pitch and venue for games.
But, wondering do the inniskeen hurlers not play there and would the lines not normally be on it or how did it all come about?
farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 299 - 02/04/2025 12:36:27
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Replying To Bernardo: "I am a Monaghan man and like alot of Monaghan folk outside the barony of farney ( which is located in south east Monaghan) I do not like Monaghan being referred to as the English invention Farney. Baronies are an English invention . I prefer the ballybetaghs that existed prior to the barony
Monaghan have left behind 1 or 2 Ulster titles since 2015. Our aim should be to try and win Ulster and then take it from there . We have never won Sam so not sure 2025:is going to change that." started with some new stuff but finished strong with the hits. lol
MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 216 - 02/04/2025 13:03:15
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Replying To Bernardo: "I am a Monaghan man and like alot of Monaghan folk outside the barony of farney ( which is located in south east Monaghan) I do not like Monaghan being referred to as the English invention Farney. Baronies are an English invention . I prefer the ballybetaghs that existed prior to the barony
Monaghan have left behind 1 or 2 Ulster titles since 2015. Our aim should be to try and win Ulster and then take it from there . We have never won Sam so not sure 2025:is going to change that." Ulster Championship is devalued in the new format. It would be a target if we were bottom of division 2 so we could stay in the Sam Maguire, so I'm sure the likes of Down will be gunning for it and they are a decent team and should be in Sam Maguire, they were unlucky in Div 2 this year. I'd say Armagh might fancy themselves for Ulster as they are on the easier side of the draw, they haven't won Ulster since 2008 so I'm sure they'll target it too.
Cavan should target it too so they can stop being slagged about the pretend Ulster in 2020.
Our taraget should be staying injury free to the group stages and reaching an All Ireland Final.
I would much rather us getting beat by a Div 1 side in the Ulster Champsionship then winning ulster and getting beat by a Div 1 side in Quarter or Semi final.
Confidence is high in the Monaghan camp at the minute and although a lot of this current squad don't have an Ulster medal (at senior level), I'm sure they are target has to be an All Ireland Final this year.
SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 148 - 02/04/2025 15:30:17
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Replying To SouthMonMan: "Ulster Championship is devalued in the new format. It would be a target if we were bottom of division 2 so we could stay in the Sam Maguire, so I'm sure the likes of Down will be gunning for it and they are a decent team and should be in Sam Maguire, they were unlucky in Div 2 this year. I'd say Armagh might fancy themselves for Ulster as they are on the easier side of the draw, they haven't won Ulster since 2008 so I'm sure they'll target it too.
Cavan should target it too so they can stop being slagged about the pretend Ulster in 2020.
Our taraget should be staying injury free to the group stages and reaching an All Ireland Final.
I would much rather us getting beat by a Div 1 side in the Ulster Champsionship then winning ulster and getting beat by a Div 1 side in Quarter or Semi final.
Confidence is high in the Monaghan camp at the minute and although a lot of this current squad don't have an Ulster medal (at senior level), I'm sure they are target has to be an All Ireland Final this year." Apologies, I stand corrected. Down won the Tailteann Cup in 2024 so are in Sam Maguire already.
SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 148 - 02/04/2025 16:16:51
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Replying To SouthMonMan: "Ulster Championship is devalued in the new format. It would be a target if we were bottom of division 2 so we could stay in the Sam Maguire, so I'm sure the likes of Down will be gunning for it and they are a decent team and should be in Sam Maguire, they were unlucky in Div 2 this year. I'd say Armagh might fancy themselves for Ulster as they are on the easier side of the draw, they haven't won Ulster since 2008 so I'm sure they'll target it too.
Cavan should target it too so they can stop being slagged about the pretend Ulster in 2020.
Our taraget should be staying injury free to the group stages and reaching an All Ireland Final.
I would much rather us getting beat by a Div 1 side in the Ulster Champsionship then winning ulster and getting beat by a Div 1 side in Quarter or Semi final.
Confidence is high in the Monaghan camp at the minute and although a lot of this current squad don't have an Ulster medal (at senior level), I'm sure they are target has to be an All Ireland Final this year." Knock that rubbish about the 2020 provincials on the head. Cavan and Tipps wins that year are as legitimate as any other championship that's ever been won.
Everyone had the same chance to go and win it, they did.
Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 197 - 02/04/2025 22:43:05
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The U20 game against Derry was a tough one to watch. Now, you have to say that is a terrific Derry team with loads of players from the two previous all Ireland wining minor teams. With lots of last years Monaghan U20 team still underage and a good amount of the 2023 minors to come in, this looked Monaghan U20 age group had potentially a very strong team. But, you would also have to admit that Monaghan management made a mess of the way this team are setup. The starting line up is missing some top players, the approach and playing style was very negative. Belief in themselves seems to be totally absent.
Even with the new playing rules, Monaghan played defensively, playing very deep. When they won possession, there was simply too much no support going forward. One break had Callan kick it forward around midfield and they had no teammate anywhere near where the pass was. There was no one to pass it to. It was dire to watch. Tactically this team were a mess.
There were very few positives from this game. Bobby McCaul was simply outstanding, scoring 1-5 from play. And his injury is all the more disappointing. He walked off so you'd hope it's not serious. But I got the feeling McCaul will miss the rest of the U20 campaign and possibly ulster championship too. Doogan-burke tried very hard.
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Replying To Bernardo: "I am a Monaghan man and like alot of Monaghan folk outside the barony of farney ( which is located in south east Monaghan) I do not like Monaghan being referred to as the English invention Farney. Baronies are an English invention . I prefer the ballybetaghs that existed prior to the barony
Monaghan have left behind 1 or 2 Ulster titles since 2015. Our aim should be to try and win Ulster and then take it from there . We have never won Sam so not sure 2025:is going to change that." I know it's a fairly trivial matter but Monaghan being called the 'Farney County' grates on me big time. Farney is a relatively small area around Carrick so how it became a nickname for the whole county is beyond me. Oriel is a much more appropriate name as it encompasses the whole county, albeit also covering parts of others.
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Replying To sleater: "The U20 game against Derry was a tough one to watch. Now, you have to say that is a terrific Derry team with loads of players from the two previous all Ireland wining minor teams. With lots of last years Monaghan U20 team still underage and a good amount of the 2023 minors to come in, this looked Monaghan U20 age group had potentially a very strong team. But, you would also have to admit that Monaghan management made a mess of the way this team are setup. The starting line up is missing some top players, the approach and playing style was very negative. Belief in themselves seems to be totally absent.
Even with the new playing rules, Monaghan played defensively, playing very deep. When they won possession, there was simply too much no support going forward. One break had Callan kick it forward around midfield and they had no teammate anywhere near where the pass was. There was no one to pass it to. It was dire to watch. Tactically this team were a mess.
There were very few positives from this game. Bobby McCaul was simply outstanding, scoring 1-5 from play. And his injury is all the more disappointing. He walked off so you'd hope it's not serious. But I got the feeling McCaul will miss the rest of the U20 campaign and possibly ulster championship too. Doogan-burke tried very hard." Well what do you expect with a manager with no experience and big ego
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Replying To Jjoniel79: "Knock that rubbish about the 2020 provincials on the head. Cavan and Tipps wins that year are as legitimate as any other championship that's ever been won.
Everyone had the same chance to go and win it, they did." I always find in embarrassing when monaghan folk slag cavan for this one. We blew an eight point lead against them which makes it all the worse!!
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Replying To sleater: "The U20 game against Derry was a tough one to watch. Now, you have to say that is a terrific Derry team with loads of players from the two previous all Ireland wining minor teams. With lots of last years Monaghan U20 team still underage and a good amount of the 2023 minors to come in, this looked Monaghan U20 age group had potentially a very strong team. But, you would also have to admit that Monaghan management made a mess of the way this team are setup. The starting line up is missing some top players, the approach and playing style was very negative. Belief in themselves seems to be totally absent.
Even with the new playing rules, Monaghan played defensively, playing very deep. When they won possession, there was simply too much no support going forward. One break had Callan kick it forward around midfield and they had no teammate anywhere near where the pass was. There was no one to pass it to. It was dire to watch. Tactically this team were a mess.
There were very few positives from this game. Bobby McCaul was simply outstanding, scoring 1-5 from play. And his injury is all the more disappointing. He walked off so you'd hope it's not serious. But I got the feeling McCaul will miss the rest of the U20 campaign and possibly ulster championship too. Doogan-burke tried very hard." Nonsense. They are guaranteed a quarterfinal leave judgement until then. Joe Gallagher one of Ulster's top coaches trust the process
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Replying To farneygael3: "Nonsense. They are guaranteed a quarterfinal leave judgement until then. Joe Gallagher one of Ulster's top coaches trust the process" Are you mixed up with the hurlers again?
Top in A plays second in B
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Derry will top our Group. So we need to beat Armagh comprehensively, and hope that Derry do the same to Cavan as we have a 20 point deficit on Cavan.
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