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Wicklow vs Meath 2015

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Id say you are not too far of there Canas. The likes of Ross O Brien, Paul Cunningham and Mark Kenny will also be pushing close to a start.

frolly (Wicklow) - Posts: 11 - 22/05/2015 14:11:23    1727076

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Surely the relative silence on this forum about the Meath game is a sorry reflection of the new low we now stand at as a county. In the recent past we would have some ultimately futile glimmer of hope at the start of the championship. Foolish hope not backed up by much but at least we put in some decent one off performances and even won a few first round games. This year just seems devoid of any belief at all amongst supporters. High profile retirements, players leaving the panel and utter annihilation at underage level seems to have sapped the support of any last bit of hope. We are not going to beat Meath but surely we can come up with a system that at least frustrates them and doesn't leave us on the end of a Carlow-like hammering. There are still decent players on the panel but I don't think the management have got the level of commitment from some players that they deserved. Anyway for old times sake I am going to hope that the malaise that has spread over the county is put on hold for one day and the players put in a huge effort and battle for the jersey and what will be will be.

townieee (Wicklow) - Posts: 261 - 28/05/2015 11:12:15    1729372

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Townieee, it not a good time to be a Wicklow supporter when you see the hammerings that our teams at all levels are getting, the lack of direction at the top and all these negative stories in the media. I wouldn't disagree with the team mentioned earlier, I would play McWalters as part of a defensive setup with players dropping back, if we go 15 versus 15 in an open game, we are going to get murdered by Meath as we are on a par with Carlow and Meath are better than Laois so for me, there has to be a blanket defense type of plan ... I don't like it but I don't see any other option. I hope that the team can put in a good performance and maybe have a good run in the qualifiers but it is hard to envisage based upon what I have seen so far this year - time will tell.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1337 - 28/05/2015 14:06:10    1729478

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Meath are 1/16 on to win and if I had a million euros I would be straight down to the bookies.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2730 - 28/05/2015 15:59:10    1729576

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I wish the team and management the best & will be following from abroad praying for what looks like a miracle. Looks like Spongers €1M punt on Meath would be safe though.

My fear is the end result will just lead to louder cat calls for a "B Championship"

Having said that - London did well against Roscommon and Leitrim didn't disgrace themselves v Galway - so maybe we can give a good account .

Square_Ball_15 (Wicklow) - Posts: 2662 - 28/05/2015 16:50:55    1729613

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Wicklowsupport, it's absolutely essential we have numbers behind the ball and I certainly see the merit in playing the likes of Padge and gaffney as nominal forwards to help get primary possession. The problem with playing this system is that you need a very good level of fitness all through the team to make sure lads aren't isolated in possession. I don't know what Johnny Magee has been working on but fitness has been an issue in the past for us. If you take dean odium for example as one of the true forward options in a outnumbered sector is he ever going to make an impact, lovely scoring footballer but he is not going to have the legs for such a role. There is no point having legions behind the ball if it's just going to keep coming back to you time after time, that makes for a loooong 70 minutes!! Anyway when expectation is this low you can be pleasantly surprised, but I think I would be taking those terrible odds on meath

townieee (Wicklow) - Posts: 261 - 28/05/2015 18:45:31    1729693

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Wicklowsupport, it's absolutely essential we have numbers behind the ball and I certainly see the merit in playing the likes of Padge and gaffney as nominal forwards to help get primary possession. The problem with playing this system is that you need a very good level of fitness all through the team to make sure lads aren't isolated in possession. I don't know what Johnny Magee has been working on but fitness has been an issue in the past for us. If you take dean odium for example as one of the true forward options in a outnumbered sector is he ever going to make an impact, lovely scoring footballer but he is not going to have the legs for such a role. There is no point having legions behind the ball if it's just going to keep coming back to you time after time, that makes for a loooong 70 minutes!! Anyway when expectation is this low you can be pleasantly surprised, but I think I would be taking those terrible odds on meath

townieee (Wicklow) - Posts: 261 - 28/05/2015 19:00:31    1729698

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Townieee, you are right, to bring players back behind the ball and then play on the counter attack, the transition from defense into attack has to be swift plus it requires a huge amount of fitness to carry it out for 70 minutes so yes, the forwards including Odlum will have a tough day upfront as they will be outnumbered for most of the match - I would still go with this game plan as I think it will damage limitation in this game, the best is to try and get out of the game with a good performance and look to win a couple of qualifier games but it will require a high degree of fitness, maybe that is why he upped the training to 5 nights per week.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1337 - 29/05/2015 09:33:31    1729788

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I was going to get that €1m loan off Square - I heard he has more cash than Blatter.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2730 - 29/05/2015 12:40:34    1729937

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Any predictions on the score in the Meath match.I would imagine it will be something on the lines of Meath 3-18.Wicklow 0-12,can't see any other outcome damage limitations or not.

pistelero (Wicklow) - Posts: 1715 - 29/05/2015 20:47:24    1730137

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Wicklow 0-12 Meath 1-8

No_Drama (Wicklow) - Posts: 509 - 30/05/2015 16:08:04    1730259

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Meath by 7

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 480 - 30/05/2015 16:20:25    1730267

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Meath by 14

i.am.ahab. (Wicklow) - Posts: 254 - 30/05/2015 17:12:54    1730286

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No-Drama I love an optimist,but I agree on one thing if we are to beat Meath we will have to hold them to 8 or 9 scores,can't see it happening though.

pistelero (Wicklow) - Posts: 1715 - 30/05/2015 19:45:43    1730331

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If you put that million on Meath you'd win €62,500 and it would be the easiest payday in your life.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1101 - 30/05/2015 21:30:01    1730377

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Prediction Meath 2-18 Wicklow 0-8

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1101 - 30/05/2015 21:45:08    1730386

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Jesus before coming onto this page I wouldn't have been as confident that meath would win by as much as many are predicting, I would be confident of winning but this meath team doesn't give out hammerings to teams too often, and the games between Wicklow and meath havnt been too one sided, Wicklow have given us decent games.

meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 01/06/2015 15:28:51    1730990

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Funny you mention Jesus Meathalltheway because we'll need him playing full back, full forward, midfield and in goal to have any chance in Navan.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1101 - 01/06/2015 20:00:56    1731117

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Wicklowman you may throw in a few of his apostles as well.Longford won Div 4 finished 10 points ahead of Wicklow who finished last,look what a Dublin team who never got out of second gear did to them,even Waterford beat us,look what Tipp did to them.The Meath game could be the biggest embarrassment in Wicklow's history,and we have had many of them.

pistelero (Wicklow) - Posts: 1715 - 01/06/2015 20:28:37    1731126

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To be fair to Longford , I thought Jack Sheedy did them a dis service in many ways. Going 1 on 1 mostly with that Dublin team spelled big trouble and it was lambs to the slaughter from the off. Why he didn't make it ugly & defend in numbers for at least the first half and keep the score respectable is beyond me . He has a duty of care to those young lads - a lot of that team won a Leinster Minor in 2010 and reached a leinster U21 final in 2013.

Anyway - lessons to be learned there for us . In a game we will virtually find impossible to win in - work our socks off , defend and crowd the man in possession & hope to keep it a low scoring defeat.

That's defeatist I know - but results from Div 4 would suggest its the best result we can hope for .

Square_Ball_15 (Wicklow) - Posts: 2662 - 02/06/2015 09:10:11    1731197

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