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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "Looking at intercounty games they appears to be an absence of atmosphere at most games; it might all change this weekend. Without a proper strategy and funding at county board level, we will continue to flounder. In the last 30 years looking at the setup, as a county we stumble for one year to the next making the same mistakes and not learning nor adjusting to them. The biggest disappointment for me is the club scene and our alerting decline in the leinster championship. I don't have expectations at county level unless there is a change at the top which doesn't appear to be on the horizon but i thought the club would continue to compete well in the province alas that is no longer the case."
I was listening to a sidelines Derry footballer yesterday. He was discussing the change that Rory Gallagher has brought to the table in Derry and how players bought into it. And various ways he has changed things. He would visit players at home if they were doing individual gym workouts etc. a whole new approach. And then I get back to thinking of our woes. A few questions come to mind. Is he on a fixed term or sliding contract ?? Is it a long term arrangement ? Has he to prostate himself before a committee every year to explain how he has performed. Have his copybook checked and ticked as it were. If he looks for more supports does he get then ? I think it's only a few short years since Derry found themselves in the basement and boy have they made strides. Should we not send a delegation to Derry for a few days to discuss their overall strategy which seems to be working so well. Meet the clubs etc to see what they are doing. We have to start somewhere so why not by trying to see what is making Derry tick.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 483 - 26/06/2022 20:37:28    2427764

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I was listening to a sidelines Derry footballer yesterday. He was discussing the change that Rory Gallagher has brought to the table in Derry and how players bought into it. And various ways he has changed things. He would visit players at home if they were doing individual gym workouts etc. a whole new approach. And then I get back to thinking of our woes. A few questions come to mind. Is he on a fixed term or sliding contract ?? Is it a long term arrangement ? Has he to prostate himself before a committee every year to explain how he has performed. Have his copybook checked and ticked as it were. If he looks for more supports does he get then ? I think it's only a few short years since Derry found themselves in the basement and boy have they made strides. Should we not send a delegation to Derry for a few days to discuss their overall strategy which seems to be working so well. Meet the clubs etc to see what they are doing. We have to start somewhere so why not by trying to see what is making Derry tick."
Freethinker; anything is possible but it does require a plan as to how we will get there. Equally before the plan comes ambition to think big. There are a lot of average county team in ireland so it is possible to go from divisions 4 to 2 and maybe 1 in a short space of time. There is a key difference between us and Derry. Derry's problem was at county level, in that players at club level didn't think the county was ambitious enough and the players felt the county board lacked in certain areas. But Derry clubs were competing in Ulster and at All Ireland level plus their schools were doing the same. We are not strong in Leinster in either of these categories but over a period we could become competitive. It may be easy for make this statement and to apportion blame on a forum like this but what is the relationship like between the county executive and the clubs? We need everyone on the same hymn sheet which is the starting point for such a project. I know a number of counties are playing their league now in advance of the club championship; this maybe happening in wicklow but it is next to impoosible to know when games are on as there is no central forum/source for this type of information. The whole structure/setup is very disjointed and a bit disorganised from the outside, looking in. This is pretty basic and should be easy to remedy but you have to get it organised, clealy set out what you want to achieve before you talk to other counties about how they did it.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1598 - 27/06/2022 10:00:20    2427866

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what managers would you like in wicklow it a question ? Bring success into it i have wrote messages about recritment of managers but have not be posted on this .

lor12 (Wicklow) - Posts: 216 - 27/06/2022 17:52:21    2428133

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Replying To lor12:  "what managers would you like in wicklow it a question ? Bring success into it i have wrote messages about recritment of managers but have not be posted on this ."
I think the general feeling on this forum is that it won't really matter what manager is appointed until the structures within the county are changed in order to bring about greater drive and ambition within the GAA family in the county. Bringing anyone in for 2/3 years and expecting miracles is a futile exercise. We have tried that for 20 / 30 yrs and it doesn't work. We are at least 5 yrs away from being able to compete for anything. The sooner the better this particular penny drops with those charged with developing the games in the county. So, whatever team or structure is put in place needs to be given that timeframe at least. We seem to have a stream of youngsters going the tightest, but we are still off the pace. Maybe not as far as we were but we are still behind other counties like Kildare, Westmeath or Offaly and I am not even thinking about the Dubs. Until we can compete with and beat these counties at their level on a reasonably regular basis at underage, we are peeing against the wind in concentrating on our senior teams. Just my opinion.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 483 - 27/06/2022 21:11:17    2428197

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Replying To lor12:  "what managers would you like in wicklow it a question ? Bring success into it i have wrote messages about recritment of managers but have not be posted on this ."
Lor12; i was disappointed when Davy Burke left the role as I thought he was the right man to develop young players, is ambitious and very progressive in terms of how his teams play. I would love to know the reason he moved on. The current management team have done ok so i would envisage them staying in situ but i think they need to address the defensive side of the team as we are conceding goals which makes very difficult to get results even in division 4.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1598 - 27/06/2022 21:46:18    2428209

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I've managed to catch a couple of minor matches for ver the last two weeks and they've both been great watches. Seems like we've a couple of really handy players on the club scene at that age group.

The thing that really pleased me was to see the likes of St Kevins, Aughrim, An Tochar all have very competitive teams in minor A. Bray seem to be very strong, looking forward to the rest of the championship.

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 536 - 29/06/2022 08:52:50    2428513

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Replying To Victorious87:  "I've managed to catch a couple of minor matches for ver the last two weeks and they've both been great watches. Seems like we've a couple of really handy players on the club scene at that age group.

The thing that really pleased me was to see the likes of St Kevins, Aughrim, An Tochar all have very competitive teams in minor A. Bray seem to be very strong, looking forward to the rest of the championship."
Reading the Paper seems to be a competitive league with 10 teams in the "A" which is great, should be as many team in the better for players developing win or lose. Last few years there were 6 teams or so. This is a positive step by the clubs to commit hopefully games will be even enough.

Looks like AGB are very strong too, with Blessington, Baltinglass & Bray possibly Greystones also. Reads as if Aughrim & An Tochar was a good game. Aughrim won this championship at u15 so i say they be one of the favourites, An Tochar reads as if they have very young team or size wish i.e. a few will play again next year at minor level and St Kevins you never write off.

It'll be interesting league championship but i assume plenty of teams will lose players to holidays so why not do a league and then a championship some the end of the summer. its one to keep a eye on

StrandedinWW (Wicklow) - Posts: 5 - 29/06/2022 17:21:10    2428695

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