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I think he may have passed his sell by date. No work rate on the pitch
kodak13 (Wicklow) - Posts: 77 - 12/11/2024 13:53:57 2579363 Link 0 |
I think there is a certain amount of delusion amongst supporters. For me there's been three senior Wicklow teams that have achieved something notable in the last 140 years - Baltinglass winning the All Ireland club championship in 1990; this won't be emulated by a Wicklow club for a long time, if ever. Rathnew winning the Leinster club championship in 2002 and Wicklow seniors under Mick O'Dwyer between 2007 - 2012. No other club outside Baltinglass and Rathnew have done anything worthy. Ok, An Tochar and TInahely have reached the Leinster club finals in 1984 and 1995 respectively. Without strong underage and/or club scene; it is impossible to have successful county teams. This is where we are. We have some NICE footballers but they are not WINNERS. This might sound harsh but when games are there to be won, Wicklow teams seldom win those type of games. Even our win over Westmeath this year was built on a big lead and hanging on at the end. I think the biggest problem in Wicklow is an willingness to change and take a different approach. It is hard to see how the fundamental change that is required, will materialise but as you say, to be a Wicklow supporter, you have to be an optimist above everything else.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2021 - 12/11/2024 14:23:53 2579369 Link 0 |
Hurling is no comparison to the level of Football in this county and I think we are to quick to knock the standard of football in this county when I genuinely believe the standard of player and what is expected of them has changed drastically in the last decade. I have been around development squads in Balinakill in hurling and football and the level the hurlers are at is miles behind the footballers in terms of ability and opponents. We're not far behind Leitrim on the funding issue if we're honest. Albundy19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 66 - 12/11/2024 17:28:41 2579395 Link 0 |
I would love to be able to agree with you and hats off to you for working with youngsters around Ballinakill. You, and others like you, and they, are our future. Having said this, our results in Leinster U17 and u19/20 don't back your belief up. We still can't beat the top 5/6 teams in Leinster when it matters and haven't been able to for years now. Like I have said on here previously, it's as if when we think we have reached the desired standard, the top teams have pushed the bar a little higher. When we can reach the standards of Dubs, Meath, Kildare, now Louth, Offaly and even Longford, beat them reasonably regularly, then, and only then, will we be able to say that we have improved. I fear we are a bit off achieving this still. It's one thing beating Wexford, Carlow, even Laois but the next step up seems to be always one too far. And that's no disrespect to these counties. They are in a struggle to lift themselves just like us.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1251 - 12/11/2024 20:12:54 2579412 Link 0 |
I'm really not quite sure where the basis of this point is coming from that the football standard is far ahead of the hurling. Absolutely no basis for that argument going on any minor/u21 football team since the 97 minors were beaten by Laois in a Leinster final. Thats 27 years ago. Let that sink in.
Gaa_supporter (Wicklow) - Posts: 18 - 13/11/2024 00:00:46 2579444 Link 0 |