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Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 25/02/2019 00:15:29 2167799 Link 0 |
Was in Ennis yesterday Clare backs were nearly afraid to tackle with this fickle refereeing did Croak Park think hurling was getting too good after last Summer and informed referees to blow for every little thing they are making it into a game of women's hockey. clooney (Clare) - Posts: 583 - 25/02/2019 09:29:06 2167850 Link 0 |
Its hard to take anything from that game, Wexford are shocking. The way they play suits Clare, our corner backs had acres of space to run into and deliver. Looking 4ward to seeing how the half back line and Shane Golden do against Limerick. Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 25/02/2019 15:40:27 2168041 Link 1 |
Clare were in a groove for most of the game, concentration for the whole 70 minutes is certainly an issue, as are silly frees near midfield. LoughDerg (Clare) - Posts: 7 - 28/02/2019 15:35:46 2168912 Link 0 |
Dreadful day for hurling yesterday hopefully the point will do to get to quarter final spot fouls gain let us down this spare hand as exemplified by Rory Hayes hand in back at end gave Limerick a point don't we ever learn anything as Donal O'Grady pointed out in game V Cork any good free taker will pot a simple free why not sheppard Forward Hayes is quick would have got him DAFT WE are giving away too many soft frees and not converting the ones we get good to see Oisin O Brien back seems to be real man marker without giving away frees Golden had a good game good vision yesterday we need top performances every day from C Galvin T Kelly & Peter Duggan dosent happen enough though. John Conlon so much off a loss for us N Deasy was only ok needs more matches though Shanagher used far too late Davy McInerney was he injured sloppy for goal let Heharty through too soft. Some play acting by one of the Clare backs ridicilious going to ground we dont want that in Hurling clooney (Clare) - Posts: 583 - 04/03/2019 10:05:47 2170001 Link 0 |
Limerick really wanted to win that as there record against Clare in last few years is poor. Conditions suited them and they were the better side but still couldn't beat us. Come summer, with a dry pitch, it will be a totally different game. Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 1033 - 04/03/2019 11:41:53 2170047 Link 0 |
Antony Daly (not for the first time) said Clare lost the 96 Munster Final to Limerick.No they did not, they lost the Semi Final. Limerick beat Tipp in a replay in Cork in the final. It was the only Munster Final Clare were not involved in form 92 to 2000
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2658 - 04/03/2019 11:50:13 2170052 Link 0 |
Yeah you are right of course remember Anthony at finish of that game he was devestated great sporting occassion i really wanted to thump my brother in law {limerick man} coming out the gate he was so annoying I was glad to see a bit of spike in yesterdays game for years when both teams met is was like "dancing on ice" I doubt very much that these players dislike each other its only a bit of tribalism. clooney (Clare) - Posts: 583 - 04/03/2019 12:59:09 2170083 Link 0 |
Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 1033 - 04/03/2019 14:16:54 2170122 Link 0 |
I enjoyed that game, was very stop start but still entertaining. Can see someone getting sent off in June. Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 04/03/2019 16:39:48 2170175 Link 0 |
Dec Both Sean Finn, who was also off for most of the game last year, and Mike Casey were off for most of the game yesterday. It also should be noted that the Clare starting full forward line yesterday were held scoreless by what was essentially a make shift Limerick full back line. Now John would be hard to handle if he was on yesterday but could surely be reasonably well contained if the real full line was on. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2658 - 04/03/2019 21:37:53 2170262 Link 0 |
Ian Galvin isnt a corner 4ward and Deasey isnt good enough at this level in my opinion so that makes 2 make shift lines. If Conlon is fully fit he will score an average 5 points a game. Im not being petty, trying to have a pop at limerick, i just think hes unplayable in top form. Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 04/03/2019 22:07:33 2170269 Link 0 |
Pat O Connor did play full back previously and did ok Oisin is a limited hurler but great man marker but would either have the heft required for Seamus Flanagan Johnnie Glynn Seamus Callinan Seamus Harnedy Conor McDonnell ect We need a settled half back line if David McInerney could be switched out here would greatly improve things easier said than done clooney (Clare) - Posts: 583 - 05/03/2019 09:27:36 2170323 Link 0 |
Ya i agree with that, would like to see Oisin there myself the next day. Hes very sticky, no one will ever win an easy ball off of him. Seen him full back last summer for Clonlara and Shanagher didnt get a look in. Over all its been a good league with Golden and Ryan coming through. Bar the tipp game we could of won every other game. With all the flaws in defence, were still not an easy team to beat. Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 05/03/2019 11:18:53 2170348 Link 0 |
Well Dec John was very good against LK last year but of course Mike Casey or Sean Finn were not playing and Condon got himself put off. However in the Munster Final after a great first half he was well beaten later by Spillane in the Munster Final and still Clare would probably have won but for Peter Duggans missing simple frees. In the AI Semi Final by contrast Gullane destroyed Spillane scoring seven points off him and being critised for failing to finish off two or three goaling opportunities.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2658 - 05/03/2019 22:54:55 2170515 Link 0 |
Very simplistic version of the Munster final Oldtourman, to suit your own narrative. Clare got wiped out in midfield and half forwards in second half so no ball into Conlon bar 2 or 3 which he won a free and also set up a score for Podge so he was hardly well held by Spillane. Cork also dropped back a 7th defender. If they had done in the AI semi final, they could possibly be All Ireland Champions now. The way the game is gone now, if the FB line is exposed, it does not matter if you had Brian Lohan, The Rock and JJ back there, they will ship scores. Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 1033 - 06/03/2019 08:52:29 2170546 Link 0 |
The back line 'cracked' because the full line had two players gone off and you accuse me of suiting my narrative. I might also add that Peter Casey was clearly fouled, in the lead up to Whelan's goal ( got when Ritchie English was clearly injured), which started the come back. This crap about Galway 'waking up' amuses me. So a team, many of whom had played in two, three or four finals did not bother 'to wake up', until seventy minutes of an All Ireland Final was gone. Remember many of these players had the expierience of playing in and losing finals before, something not a single player on the Limerick team had. This same team were eight points up above in their own pitch last March and they they beaten by two, a ten points turn over and only one goal in that, by this limerick side. I suppose they were all asleep there as well. What a silly excuse. The fact is in Limericks case they hit twenty wides and still won. They were a young team and when they saw the winning post, I would contend, they lost their focus just a little and this may contributed as much as anything to Galways comeback. As I have said before, any team that beat the previous years All Winners (twice, and runners up, the League Champions and runners-up and the reigning double Munster Champions are worthy All Ireland Champions. Limerick beats teams with an accumulated total of 101 All Ireland titles so I think that makes them worthy champions. You might say they got a few lucky breaks. So what, you make your luck. Still the admirers of Cork ( mind you as half a Corkman, i have heard very few of my father's countymen saying it)are still going about saying they were the better team in the All Ireland Semi Final. Any team that from the sixty third minute to the end of extra time scored ten points more that their opponents were the better team- end of story.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2658 - 06/03/2019 11:14:20 2170579 Link 0 |
My God you are touchy, Limerick well able to throw it over the fence to Clare after 2013, but how dare we say anything back! Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 1033 - 07/03/2019 08:40:04 2170766 Link 1 |
Hi Clareman, Just curious why the conditions would suit Limerick better. The dry summer last year seemed to suit us well. I would have thought the opposite, the better the conditions the more it suits Limerick as they move the ball from back to front through the lines more than most. I would have thought the dry conditions would suit both teams with the style they play. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 189 - 07/03/2019 10:39:28 2170799 Link 0 |
Fair points. However in relation to 2013 I was one of the LK man who ruthlessly chastised who used the 'oh Clare won a soft All Ireland', 'Sure they only beat one of the ''big three', 'sure if only had been more clever with the last line ball the first day' and several other nonsensical arguments to undermine what was a fine win for Clare. I was at the four finals Clare in modern and wholeheartedly supported, so is more goodwill between the Banner and Treaty that most people on here admit to. In relation to those arguments that Galway were 'tired' I have just got tired of them. It really is high Galway addressed the fact that they themselves played somewhat below their potential last year. You were not the only one in that regard I was addressing and I think I made statements that needed to be made Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2658 - 07/03/2019 12:25:58 2170836 Link 0 |