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Replying To SligoScot: "Kevin Mc Stay perfect choice now for Sligo. Get it done CB" MC Stay is a gentleman. Unfortunately he has health issues which saw him step away from his last post . I wouldn't be going after him.
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Replying To Sligonian: "Having watched Kildare and Fermanagh which was awful stuff it just showed how much we regressed this year.
One thing that was clear to me watching Galway lose yesterday, Mayo and Roscommon recently, all of them are beatable on the day. A Connacht senior title is not some unrealistic target. Look at what good management can do quickly, regarding Brennan with Meath. They weren't really pushing on with O Rourke but they have now in the space of a year.
The next manager appointment is huge. Some nonsense posts on here lately which are best ignored and of no value.
County board met last week but no announcement on selection committee? Hopefully we do our due diligence.
For me - I would approach Mickey Harte and Luke Bree as coach, as my no1. I would bring in Gerry McGowan as selector with a view to taking over eventually in a few years. That would be my no1 choice. Caroline Currid is involved with Irish rugby now but I would still try to get her involved.
My second choice would Kevin Johnson with Enda Mitchell as coach. Johnson has to go for it. He will never get a better chance and timing too with all the younger players.
I think Gerry McGowan could make a great manager one day but he reminds me of a Kinnerk for Limerick more so.
We have loads of talented coaches and Managers within Sligo. McPartland was outstanding with Coolera, Mark Breheny has always impressed me with Mary's, McGee who was involved already impresses me with the school. Sloyan obviously helped us with a major breakthrough. McGowan has a great CV. O hara has impressed with Mohill. Obviously rate Mitchell and Henry very highly but not sure where they would fit in. Mitchell would be great as coach and selector. Loads of options for selectors with a view to managing one day.
To be honest there are very specific questions I would ask in the interview about the squad and quite honestly if any of them answered in way that we go back using players we already know aren't good enough then I wouldn't let them near the job. We can't afford to waste more time on lessons that should already be learned.
It was good to see Molaise beat Coolera in Ransboro. A tough place to go and important from a mental perspective. They were missing Keelan Harte who is injured but Laffey, McDaniel, Doherty all started and Murphy came on. I am sure they are way behind in work done so no doubt will improve a lot over next few weeks, same for us. McLoughlin started for us and Spillane cant play until championship. We were missing 4 or 5 others but we have a bunch of good minors from last few years showing well and gaining experience.
Harps are showing really well this year and make the other championship group look a bit tougher. Tourlestrane at home to Coolera on Friday who look like they may have to get something should be a cracker. Shamrock Gaels and Harps the last game could decide who goes into the final. Both ends of the table will be interesting finishes." Who is this Caroline person? You have not mentioned her before.
Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 35 - 01/07/2025 10:07:26
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Replying To SligoScot: "Kevin Mc Stay perfect choice now for Sligo. Get it done CB" I won't bother with the other post above but I will ask why you think McStay?
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 95 - 01/07/2025 10:20:33
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Replying To Sligonian: "Having watched Kildare and Fermanagh which was awful stuff it just showed how much we regressed this year.
One thing that was clear to me watching Galway lose yesterday, Mayo and Roscommon recently, all of them are beatable on the day. A Connacht senior title is not some unrealistic target. Look at what good management can do quickly, regarding Brennan with Meath. They weren't really pushing on with O Rourke but they have now in the space of a year.
The next manager appointment is huge. Some nonsense posts on here lately which are best ignored and of no value.
County board met last week but no announcement on selection committee? Hopefully we do our due diligence.
For me - I would approach Mickey Harte and Luke Bree as coach, as my no1. I would bring in Gerry McGowan as selector with a view to taking over eventually in a few years. That would be my no1 choice. Caroline Currid is involved with Irish rugby now but I would still try to get her involved.
My second choice would Kevin Johnson with Enda Mitchell as coach. Johnson has to go for it. He will never get a better chance and timing too with all the younger players.
I think Gerry McGowan could make a great manager one day but he reminds me of a Kinnerk for Limerick more so.
We have loads of talented coaches and Managers within Sligo. McPartland was outstanding with Coolera, Mark Breheny has always impressed me with Mary's, McGee who was involved already impresses me with the school. Sloyan obviously helped us with a major breakthrough. McGowan has a great CV. O hara has impressed with Mohill. Obviously rate Mitchell and Henry very highly but not sure where they would fit in. Mitchell would be great as coach and selector. Loads of options for selectors with a view to managing one day.
To be honest there are very specific questions I would ask in the interview about the squad and quite honestly if any of them answered in way that we go back using players we already know aren't good enough then I wouldn't let them near the job. We can't afford to waste more time on lessons that should already be learned.
It was good to see Molaise beat Coolera in Ransboro. A tough place to go and important from a mental perspective. They were missing Keelan Harte who is injured but Laffey, McDaniel, Doherty all started and Murphy came on. I am sure they are way behind in work done so no doubt will improve a lot over next few weeks, same for us. McLoughlin started for us and Spillane cant play until championship. We were missing 4 or 5 others but we have a bunch of good minors from last few years showing well and gaining experience.
Harps are showing really well this year and make the other championship group look a bit tougher. Tourlestrane at home to Coolera on Friday who look like they may have to get something should be a cracker. Shamrock Gaels and Harps the last game could decide who goes into the final. Both ends of the table will be interesting finishes." Why cant Spillane play until championship?
muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 482 - 01/07/2025 10:50:21
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I won't bother with the other post above but I will ask why you think McStay?" Kevin McStay would bring something exciting for the players. A name, A media attention, A serious GAA person with the ability to bring the best coaching ticket available. Before people say we would struggle with media attention... we don't exactly set the world on fire without it. Something just feels right about getting Kevin at this stage, Don't know anything about his health issues but if they are not too serious, Sligo could be a perfect opportunity for him to get back on the horse. There is a good team there at the minute, not sure about a good panel but there has to be options to bring in.
He would certainly want to prove Mayo CB wrong and would have fire in the belly to do well with Sligo.
SligoScot (Sligo) - Posts: 64 - 01/07/2025 14:03:05
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Replying To Ice_cream_dromore: "Who is this Caroline person? You have not mentioned her before." She kicks points from 60 yards
SligoScot (Sligo) - Posts: 64 - 01/07/2025 14:04:19
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Replying To SligoScot: "She kicks points from 60 yards" She would be a savage addition with the 2 pointers
Taypot (Sligo) - Posts: 166 - 01/07/2025 16:02:44
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Kevin Walsh an outside bet maybe? An easier commute to Sligo than Cork I guess! Not the pool of players he had to pick from in 2009 but starting from Division 3 this time…
john.no1 (Sligo) - Posts: 471 - 01/07/2025 16:14:52
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Kevin Johnson the man imo. Get a strong ticket around him with McGowan, Mitchell, Dessie Sloyan etc. Outside of that I'd like Enda McGinley. Again I'd like a strong local coaching ticket with McGowan et al. I wouldn't rule out Paul Higgins being involved in the coaching end too. He's with O'Hara in Boyle at the moment. We will get media attention if we deserve it, I'd rather the attention from performances rather than a personality manager. McStay would not whet my appetite as the new manager.
BreakingBall123 (Sligo) - Posts: 121 - 01/07/2025 16:56:28
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Replying To john.no1: "Kevin Walsh an outside bet maybe? An easier commute to Sligo than Cork I guess! Not the pool of players he had to pick from in 2009 but starting from Division 3 this time…" The return of Kevin Walsh it would be should he bring Eamon O'Hara along with him to avoid the Sunday Game criticism this time?
To answer another question the Caroline who be Caroline Currid a sports psychologist who is best known for her work as a performance coach with the Limerick senior hurling team between 2016-2024. And she's a Sligo woman.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3692 - 01/07/2025 17:41:12
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Kevin Walsh or Kevin McStay are not viable options imo. Walsh did plenty of good but we had a serious team those few years. We ultimately underachieved. McStay over saw Brigids All Ireland win, Roscommons Connacht title win in 2017. I was at that game because Sligo Minors were in the final before. It was one the great final performances beating Galway by 9pts in a Connacht final in Salthill is very impressive. Credit it to him from going from punditry to managing but his health probably rules him out although I hear its not as serious as first thought, thankfully.
It will be interesting to see the make up of the various backroom teams that go for the Sligo job. The other aspect is, will we see the same management teams going for all 3 Connacht team vacancies. It is an unprecedented summer.
No harm having a bit of personality on the line. I'd take a bit of Inspiration over a statue any day.
To me its very simple, approach Mickey Harte and sound him out asap. If not interested onwards to Kevin Johnson. Quick interview to make sure he knows the players which I am sure he does. Confirm his squad development plan and review backroom team and get him on board. I'd like to see Gerry McGowan involved with him but I do think he would want to be manager rather selector. If Johnson or Harte are not interested then it would McGowan for me. Something along those lines. Tbh I would be happy with any of those depending on the review of the current squad and who they will be targeting to add in.
McEntee a frontrunner for the Mayo job looking at the local press. I hope he gets it. Great manager for any of the Mayo lads reading. Highly recommend him.
You know its funny, I was reading up a bit on McEntee for Mayo and an old article from 2020 popped up from the examiner about O Hara, "I believe Sligo are a top 12 team. I personally think the players are there" A penny for his thoughts the last 5 years.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1877 - 01/07/2025 21:06:19
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Replying To Sligonian: "Kevin Walsh or Kevin McStay are not viable options imo. Walsh did plenty of good but we had a serious team those few years. We ultimately underachieved. McStay over saw Brigids All Ireland win, Roscommons Connacht title win in 2017. I was at that game because Sligo Minors were in the final before. It was one the great final performances beating Galway by 9pts in a Connacht final in Salthill is very impressive. Credit it to him from going from punditry to managing but his health probably rules him out although I hear its not as serious as first thought, thankfully.
It will be interesting to see the make up of the various backroom teams that go for the Sligo job. The other aspect is, will we see the same management teams going for all 3 Connacht team vacancies. It is an unprecedented summer.
No harm having a bit of personality on the line. I'd take a bit of Inspiration over a statue any day.
To me its very simple, approach Mickey Harte and sound him out asap. If not interested onwards to Kevin Johnson. Quick interview to make sure he knows the players which I am sure he does. Confirm his squad development plan and review backroom team and get him on board. I'd like to see Gerry McGowan involved with him but I do think he would want to be manager rather selector. If Johnson or Harte are not interested then it would McGowan for me. Something along those lines. Tbh I would be happy with any of those depending on the review of the current squad and who they will be targeting to add in.
McEntee a frontrunner for the Mayo job looking at the local press. I hope he gets it. Great manager for any of the Mayo lads reading. Highly recommend him.
You know its funny, I was reading up a bit on McEntee for Mayo and an old article from 2020 popped up from the examiner about O Hara, "I believe Sligo are a top 12 team. I personally think the players are there" A penny for his thoughts the last 5 years." Yes Sligonian. Very simple. Very very simple. So simple. There's a south park skit with gnomes you should look up when you get a chance. When I read your posts I often think of it.
Phase 1 - get Mickey Harte
Phase 2 - ?
Phase 3 - All Ireland win
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 95 - 01/07/2025 23:33:49
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Replying To Gaa_lover: "The return of Kevin Walsh it would be should he bring Eamon O'Hara along with him to avoid the Sunday Game criticism this time?
To answer another question the Caroline who be Caroline Currid a sports psychologist who is best known for her work as a performance coach with the Limerick senior hurling team between 2016-2024. And she's a Sligo woman." Thanks for clearing up about the Currid lassie. We had no idea who she was or where she came from.
Taypot (Sligo) - Posts: 166 - 02/07/2025 09:14:22
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Sligonian - you have your beliefs. I admire your passion, however I think at times it's agenda driven. You get abuse but can I ask you a genuine question. Do you not think it's a bit hypocritical your criticism of Tony McEntee (this year was a slight let down imo too but this has been going on longer than that) and your obsession with getting Mickey Harte and Luke Bree in. Granted Offaly had a good league but their championship campaign was very underwhelming! They lost to Meath (if we lost to a mayo or Galway you'd be all over it). They lost Laois in the group. Struggled v Waterford. Then lost to Kildare in a quarter final. I accept they won division 3 however we had a very similar championship campaign to them and ours was a failure in your eyes and you want to poach their joint manager and coach. By all accounts Mickey Harte works best with Gavin Devlin. I don't know a lot about Luke Bree and I'd love to know where your information is coming from or is it just results you're looking at. We have good coaches McGowan etc to possibly fill that void but I do think the thought that Harte will come in and all will be rosy is a bit far fetched. He is also tied to Offaly as far as I know. He was ran out of Derry after one season. Again there was a bounce in the league but a poor championship. Harte won all irelands with a very particular style of football with some unbelievable footballers. Has it style of football adapted to the way the GAA has over the last 10 years and especially in the last 12 months with new rules I'm not sure. I could actually see it setting us back a little bit. I think there's a group of coaches within Sligo that could fill a management ticket headed by Kevin Johnson. I think there could be a role for O'Hara to provide that passion and add that edge to us. He takes no bull. The one problem I see is maybe the guys mentioned all see themselves as number 1s. Will they accept a role in a ticket headed by Johnson. The whole
Harte/Bree thing just feels a bit like one of your narratives you push and if it doesn't go the way you want it and is a failure it'll be I told you so similar to the way you've pushed certain players. One positive is a new chairman will want to start off on a good foot with this appointment so I would think no stone will be left unturned!
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I would have no interest in Walsh, Harte, MC Stay etc etc. I would be going for a younger guy. Johnson would be my preferred choice. He won't get the Galway senior job if it becomes available but he would probably get the U.20 position with Galway and from there he could get the hot seat in a few years. We don't have the bank to throw at these guys and money talks. I would like to see Sloyane and MC Gowan in responsible positions in the new makeup, hoping that they would be willing to take the reins the next time around. I'm not a fan of the musical chairs and fanfare of managers doing the rounds. Homegrown managers have a much better record than imported ones across the country.
Even in our club scene there's not as many "outsiders" managing as a few years ago.
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Replying To eoinog: "I would have no interest in Walsh, Harte, MC Stay etc etc. I would be going for a younger guy. Johnson would be my preferred choice. He won't get the Galway senior job if it becomes available but he would probably get the U.20 position with Galway and from there he could get the hot seat in a few years. We don't have the bank to throw at these guys and money talks. I would like to see Sloyane and MC Gowan in responsible positions in the new makeup, hoping that they would be willing to take the reins the next time around. I'm not a fan of the musical chairs and fanfare of managers doing the rounds. Homegrown managers have a much better record than imported ones across the country.
Even in our club scene there's not as many "outsiders" managing as a few years ago." Agreed, someone who knows the county would need to be involved if the likes of a Mcginley was manager. And you are correct on outside Managers. John O Mahoney with Galway probably the last outside manager to win an All Ireland.
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Replying To BreakingBall123: "Sligonian - you have your beliefs. I admire your passion, however I think at times it's agenda driven. You get abuse but can I ask you a genuine question. Do you not think it's a bit hypocritical your criticism of Tony McEntee (this year was a slight let down imo too but this has been going on longer than that) and your obsession with getting Mickey Harte and Luke Bree in. Granted Offaly had a good league but their championship campaign was very underwhelming! They lost to Meath (if we lost to a mayo or Galway you'd be all over it). They lost Laois in the group. Struggled v Waterford. Then lost to Kildare in a quarter final. I accept they won division 3 however we had a very similar championship campaign to them and ours was a failure in your eyes and you want to poach their joint manager and coach. By all accounts Mickey Harte works best with Gavin Devlin. I don't know a lot about Luke Bree and I'd love to know where your information is coming from or is it just results you're looking at. We have good coaches McGowan etc to possibly fill that void but I do think the thought that Harte will come in and all will be rosy is a bit far fetched. He is also tied to Offaly as far as I know. He was ran out of Derry after one season. Again there was a bounce in the league but a poor championship. Harte won all irelands with a very particular style of football with some unbelievable footballers. Has it style of football adapted to the way the GAA has over the last 10 years and especially in the last 12 months with new rules I'm not sure. I could actually see it setting us back a little bit. I think there's a group of coaches within Sligo that could fill a management ticket headed by Kevin Johnson. I think there could be a role for O'Hara to provide that passion and add that edge to us. He takes no bull. The one problem I see is maybe the guys mentioned all see themselves as number 1s. Will they accept a role in a ticket headed by Johnson. The whole
Harte/Bree thing just feels a bit like one of your narratives you push and if it doesn't go the way you want it and is a failure it'll be I told you so similar to the way you've pushed certain players. One positive is a new chairman will want to start off on a good foot with this appointment so I would think no stone will be left unturned!" I am not obsessed or entrenched in having Harte/Bree as the new management so there is no agenda. My only concern is logical with the rest having a lack of intercounty management experience. None have managed at intercounty senior level and some have been selectors and coaches. The main reason I would have Harte/Bree is the mentoring/succession plan would be easier and Harte has a track record. I know players who played under Bree and the feedback was very positive. He is highly rated. Harte won the league with Derry which everyone forgets, just got Offaly promoted. I agree their championship was inconsistent but I was impressed by their 1st half against Meath and they didn't go down without a fight against Kildare. Back to back promotions with Louth and laid the foundations for the leinster title. You are right about him and Delvin. I just think he would be a good mentor for Johnson/McGowan/ O Hara or Henry etc.. is my agenda. Nothing more. Enda Mitchell is also coach I rate very highly too so I would be just as delighted if he was involved.
I would have no issue with O Hara being involved. He would add an edge and belief for sure and you need that. You cant have lads who just agree with each other and are quiet thinkers involved.
I agree that is my concern as well, that so many are strong candidates themselves and see themselves as managers and will be running against each other.
That is my hope too, that Rouse will want to start off on a good foot with this appointment and leave no stone unturned. I wonder who will be reaching out to him. As I said before a lot would depend on the answers in the interviews for me.
Our options do look good so I am feeling positive once the selection is along the names I mentioned on here. It is refreshing to have someone read my posts and make fair points although you are reading too much into me mentioning Harte/Bree. I am open minded to a degree on the selection.
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