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Kilanerin/Ballyfad joining with Tara Rocks

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Anything won by these teams now will not mean as much to players. Have these clubs no pride in there parish.

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 05/02/2017 21:03:48    1952400

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If these numbers are correct then surely they should not be allowed join up, could open a can of worms if allowed for other clubs to follow suit

lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 97 - 06/02/2017 10:06:13    1952577

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Both teams are still able to field one team in each code on there own. We're is the need to join. Kilanerin complain that they had no u21 team and struggled to field a second football team last year. A lot of clubs have no u21 team and struggle from year to year to keep there second team going yet these clubs carry on and do everything possible to keep there club going.
This is an easy/lazy option Been taken by both clubs. It should only have been allowed as a very very last resort.

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 06/02/2017 16:02:31    1952833

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Its disappointing to see both teams join together as they both can field teams and I feel its just to try and get them playing at a higher grade, Unfortunately it has been approved for this year only and will be examined at the end of the year but maybe it will be too late then as the fringe players will be lost. Be interesting to see the reaction at the end of the year when its up for review.

unrealchap (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 06/02/2017 17:08:03    1952881

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Replying To unrealchap:  "Its disappointing to see both teams join together as they both can field teams and I feel its just to try and get them playing at a higher grade, Unfortunately it has been approved for this year only and will be examined at the end of the year but maybe it will be too late then as the fringe players will be lost. Be interesting to see the reaction at the end of the year when its up for review."
Would this thread please be closed!!
Both clubs are taking a decision which they feel will be for their longterm benefits..ie play only one code hurling or football !!
They are not disbanding!!
I for one think move clubs should make the same move.. look at oulart, small rural club who have put all their resources into hurling, they field in all underage grades and have 3 adult teams not to mention camogie..
If they played football as well where would they be???

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 06/02/2017 18:26:22    1952926

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Replying To mrfox:  "Anything won by these teams now will not mean as much to players. Have these clubs no pride in there parish."
This has to be the way forward for small rural clubs with limited resources..
There will be some pride in their parishes next year if they win a county title!!
More clubs should concentrate on only one code, they and the county would be better for it.

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 06/02/2017 18:40:19    1952937

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "This has to be the way forward for small rural clubs with limited resources..
There will be some pride in their parishes next year if they win a county title!!
More clubs should concentrate on only one code, they and the county would be better for it."
That's the point they will be winning there county medal with imported players therefore it won't mean as much. There is more respect for clubs who play both codes these are proper GAA clubs.
It's very easy/lazy for a club who just play one code there not true GAA clubs.

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 06/02/2017 20:18:42    1952989

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Replying To mrfox:  "That's the point they will be winning there county medal with imported players therefore it won't mean as much. There is more respect for clubs who play both codes these are proper GAA clubs.
It's very easy/lazy for a club who just play one code there not true GAA clubs."
Not lazy just reality for these clubs..
You don't give your life to gaa for nothing, a few medals helps and don't let anyone tell you different and less of that pride in the parish bull. Killerarin are a football club who play a bit of hurling, what's wrong with them putting all their resources into one code.
Quality over quantity and the club/ parish will be the better for it in the long term, with the county benefiting with better players.
Never mind you play for fun!! Anyone that has played gaa at any level has played to win!!!!!

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 06/02/2017 20:45:32    1953013

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Replying To mrfox:  "That's the point they will be winning there county medal with imported players therefore it won't mean as much. There is more respect for clubs who play both codes these are proper GAA clubs.
It's very easy/lazy for a club who just play one code there not true GAA clubs."
Mr Fox please tell an oulart the ballagh man that they are not a proper gaa club.!!! Like to see you try

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 06/02/2017 20:59:26    1953020

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Mr Fox please tell an oulart the ballagh man that they are not a proper gaa club.!!! Like to see you try"
Have no problem telling anyone who only Play one code. Clubs like martins, barntown, and shels along with other duel clubs provide a lot more to wex County teams than one code clubs. It takes a lot more effort for clubs to keep both codes going and fair play to the clubs who put in that extra effort.

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 06/02/2017 22:40:21    1953083

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Barely scraping together one adult team in a club is what is making up the minds of players to go abroad or play other sports. Less teams but better quality teams is what the county needs. If these teams are successful the fact that there are players from a neighbouring parish may dilute it a small bit, but do you think they'd give the medals back?? The GAA in general needs to get away from certain"traditions" that are handicapping their sports in the modern day. Parish and county boundaries don't necessary work as well today as the did 100 odd years ago. The idea of parish and county pride is all very well in theory but not always practical today. Small parishes and counties have had little hope for years with little sympathy coming from their more successful neighbours.

PT109 (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 07/02/2017 10:49:50    1953194

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Replying To PT109:  "Barely scraping together one adult team in a club is what is making up the minds of players to go abroad or play other sports. Less teams but better quality teams is what the county needs. If these teams are successful the fact that there are players from a neighbouring parish may dilute it a small bit, but do you think they'd give the medals back?? The GAA in general needs to get away from certain"traditions" that are handicapping their sports in the modern day. Parish and county boundaries don't necessary work as well today as the did 100 odd years ago. The idea of parish and county pride is all very well in theory but not always practical today. Small parishes and counties have had little hope for years with little sympathy coming from their more successful neighbours."
Great answer

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 07/02/2017 12:50:12    1953248

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Replying To PT109:  "Barely scraping together one adult team in a club is what is making up the minds of players to go abroad or play other sports. Less teams but better quality teams is what the county needs. If these teams are successful the fact that there are players from a neighbouring parish may dilute it a small bit, but do you think they'd give the medals back?? The GAA in general needs to get away from certain"traditions" that are handicapping their sports in the modern day. Parish and county boundaries don't necessary work as well today as the did 100 odd years ago. The idea of parish and county pride is all very well in theory but not always practical today. Small parishes and counties have had little hope for years with little sympathy coming from their more successful neighbours."
Are u seriously suggesting that a consideration of someone when deciding to emigrate is that their GAA club is low on numbers?

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1232 - 07/02/2017 15:42:00    1953320

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Also, both of these clubs were not only barely scraping a team together. Ballyfad regularly had 26/27 hurlers and about 35 footballers and Tara rocks regularly had upwards of 30 footballers and 24/25 hurlers.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1232 - 07/02/2017 15:44:56    1953321

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Its decided lads move on

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1428 - 07/02/2017 16:37:35    1953342

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Great answer"
It's not an answer. It's the posters own comment and a general comment. When the facts are looked at in both clubs concerned they have not been scraping numbers to put there first teams out. At least it's only for one year where it will be voted on again

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 07/02/2017 17:28:36    1953366

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