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Tough luck on Tipperary yesterday, Bubbles was by some distance the man-of-the-match, first to score for Tipp, last to score and 5 beauties in between whereas Hogan had maybe 10 good minutes out of 70, pity 'tis that the referee didn't get the penalty calls correct, regular 20 meter frees would have given two more points to Tipp. The blatant trip by Power at the start of the 2nd half should have been a free out rather than a goal for KK (Reid) and Power should have seen red which would have ruled out his 2nd goal

that's an 8 point swing for Tipperary - the replay will be a wet evening and I expect Tipp to win by 10 points or even more

pity also that the Sunday Game analysts could miss all that I mentioned above

TouchOfClass (Galway) - Posts: 730 - 08/09/2014 13:57:44    1649580

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Yaking a realistis look at the game yesterday I have to say the TIPP WERE VERY UNLUCKY .tHEY WERE THE BETTER TEAM ON THE HOUR, AND IN PARTICULAR THE MISSEDI GOALS COST THEM THE GAME.I believe they Are a great betfor the replay.

brianboru (Clare) - Posts: 561 - 08/09/2014 16:34:13    1649694

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Yaking a realistis look at the game yesterday I have to say the TIPP WERE VERY UNLUCKY .tHEY WERE THE BETTER TEAM ON THE HOUR, AND IN PARTICULAR THE MISSEDI GOALS COST THEM THE GAME.I believe they Are a great betfor the replay.

brianboru (Clare) - Posts: 561 - 08/09/2014 16:36:47    1649696

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Babs Keating gave Kilkenny 6/10 and Tipp 9/10, he forgot the missed penalties and few misses from Tipp. I would give Kilkenny 7/10 and Tipp 8/10, in the replay can Tipp improve again and will Kilkenny. Its a tight call, I say another draw, its 8/1 with paddy power, it was 10/1 last week. Get your money in there. If there is to be a winner, Id pick Tipp by 1.

20carrolls (National) - Posts: 99 - 09/09/2014 10:52:05    1649970

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tIPPERARY TEAM AND SUPPORTERS SUPER.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 09/09/2014 14:34:27    1650115

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i,d really fancy tipp to put the cats away the next day especially if its a good dry day again.my worry would be a major change in the weather which i think would suit the slower k/k backs.i,ll be amazed if it turns into another shoot out.just wondering is there a possibility cahill might start and pick up richie hogan from the start?

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1044 - 09/09/2014 15:17:23    1650143

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08/09/2014 13:57:44
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Tough luck on Tipperary yesterday, Bubbles was by some distance the man-of-the-match, first to score for Tipp, last to score and 5 beauties in between whereas Hogan had maybe 10 good minutes out of 70, pity 'tis that the referee didn't get the penalty calls correct, regular 20 meter frees would have given two more points to Tipp. The blatant trip by Power at the start of the 2nd half should have been a free out rather than a goal for KK (Reid) and Power should have seen red which would have ruled out his 2nd goal
that's an 8 point swing for Tipperary - the replay will be a wet evening and I expect Tipp to win by 10 points or even more
pity also that the Sunday Game analysts could miss all that I mentioned above
Would love us to win by that much but it wont be a 10 point or more win for everyone
Ref missed things for them as well but still even and not exactly biased in favour of one side

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/09/2014 15:19:59    1650148

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That's interesting about the trip, I was thinking that too but I didn't want to seem like sour grapes.

Is Babs a friend, a foe or a sad old man looking for attention for his big ego.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 09/09/2014 19:12:14    1650291

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I agree with touch of class.I feel Tipp,had no luck.Which is a pattern against Kilkenny.I really feel Tipp should have won.So many small things went against ye.I do however,change my mind for the replay.I think Tipp are going to beat Kilkenny.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/09/2014 20:49:59    1651128

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Lads am i the only one here perplexed with the penalty situation in the final.Henry scores from about 16 yards out in 09 to win the final,TJ Reid scores 2 piledrivers in league final,only 3 months ago,from 14 yards out,to win final.Then,for the first time in 130 years,just as Tipp win two penalties,in All Ireland final,they have to be struck outside the 21.I mean,talk about cruel luck.No doubt,if the normal ruled applied,Tipp would be worthy champions now.The Nash penalty,which i was firmly against,since the start has come back to hurt Tipp.When the powers that be removed ammended the ruling few months back,they eliminated the advantage for the forward team.I,like a few others at the time,offered up a few better alternatives,such as only allowing 2,or even 1 defender to remain on the goal line.Even allow 2 points for a point scored for a penalty would give the advantage back to the attacking side.No doubt,the rule will be ammended accordingly next year,but at what cost to Tipp?I would be raging if i was a Tipp man,for i genuinely feel they have got absolutely no luck or breaks against Kilkenny in a lot of excrutiatingly close defeats.I really hope Tipp win the replay,for if any team deserves a break,its them.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 12/09/2014 17:10:20    1651422

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Cue nothing we can do really, the rules are there for now and we have to follow them. We had our chances with penalties and they were very badly struck, now that part we do have control over so Iwould be more aannoyed over the way they were struck. The first one was nearly a back pass that how poor it was.
head down and battle on for the next day, I do believe a draw was a fair enough result for the game itself was outstanding, I'm just hoping we have not lost our chances, I'm happy enough with the way this team have performed this year ad a point some people are forgetting is we are still building a new team and are far from finished.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 12/09/2014 20:21:28    1651479

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Testing

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2423 - 14/09/2014 21:47:32    1652013

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Some very good suggestions there Cuede. Yep it hurts big time but you just have to grin and bear it otherwise you are seen as a shower of sore losers. The 2011 final sucked too cos Bonnar was cynically chopped down when through on goal and Tommy Walsh was left on the pitch after striking the ref we have for the replay.

The great irony of it all is we supported Cork on the Nash rule and have come out on the wrong side of it twice in the same season against the same opposition in the only national finals up for grabs. I was against changing it back in June/July because it is crazy to change a rule mid-season. Talk about moving the goal posts. The thing that cracked me up the most is that Reid mis-hit the first penalty, see you need a sense of humour for these things.

At this stage I think the psychological edge has swung back our way. I said after the Limerick match we would get better the longer we stayed in the championship. I am sticking by this and I predict we will play better in the replay. Kilkenny don't scare us and contrary to popular opinion they never did.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 16/09/2014 17:41:15    1652796

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KK lead 0-13 to 1-8 after 45 minutes. Mixed performance so far. RTE commentators as awful as ever

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/09/2014 18:03:48    1657500

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Hard luck Tipperary. Always next year.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/09/2014 19:17:09    1657531

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Tipp were lucky it was only 3 points. Callinan was totally outplayed, I don't know how Gearoid Ryan made it out for the 2nd half, today was no place for the small slight player and all the fears about Lar's complete lack of form before the drawn game came back to roost and made Tipp a 14 man team in 2nd half.Kilkenny must have won 80% of the 50/50 challenges and must have had 3 times the number of clean catches. It's back to the drawing board for Tipp because they were completely outmuscled by the Cats and that was on a dry day. On a wet day the pendulum swings even more in Kilkenny's favour. The 3 highlights were the no look pass by Noel McGrath for John O'Dwyers point, Gleeson's save which pretty much assures him of his All Star and JJ's hook! Hey 2 out of 3 ain't bad!

The Face (Monaghan) - Posts: 890 - 27/09/2014 21:16:16    1657578

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08/09/2014 13:57:44
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Tough luck on Tipperary yesterday, Bubbles was by some distance the man-of-the-match, first to score for Tipp, last to score and 5 beauties in between whereas Hogan had maybe 10 good minutes out of 70, pity 'tis that the referee didn't get the penalty calls correct, regular 20 meter frees would have given two more points to Tipp. The blatant trip by Power at the start of the 2nd half should have been a free out rather than a goal for KK (Reid) and Power should have seen red which would have ruled out his 2nd goal

that's an 8 point swing for Tipperary - the replay will be a wet evening and I expect Tipp to win by 10 points or even more

pity also that the Sunday Game analysts could miss all that I mentioned above


Fair enough its all well and good in hindsight but surely only a rabid hater of Kilkenny hurling could come up with such utter tripe as above, yes Tipp missed many chances the last day but the fact is Kilkenny scored 3 goals and probably could've had a few more?, obviously Touch of Class forgot how Kilkenny won the replay against his county in 2011 they usually learn from their mistakes.

Kilkenny were deserved winners yesterday, but hats off to Tipp as they never ever gave up and fought to the very end, other Tipp teams have often faded badly when Kilkenny get ahead of them.

I know its hurting but from a Tipp perspective there is plenty to be optimistic about as long as they don't allow this defeat to fester, but having said that this Kilkenny team is not going away for a long time yet, you could see yesterday they unearthed another few potential superstar hurlers, they're not as old as some seem to think!.

kildarecat22 (Kildare) - Posts: 257 - 28/09/2014 09:53:09    1657613

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KK did not play Galway in the final and there was no final replay in 2011.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2423 - 28/09/2014 12:32:05    1657642

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now that the dust has settled.i,ll ask did eamonn o shea err with some decisions on satrday?why was cahill not brought in earlier?was bonnar fully fit?was it a day for the likes of forde(earlier),john o brien?why was shane mc grath taken off?

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1044 - 30/09/2014 10:14:58    1658419

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No point crying over spilt milk CTGAA. Everything you say is valid but it won't change the past.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 30/09/2014 18:49:07    1658723

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