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panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2479 - 24/11/2020 17:06:47 2314808 Link 1 |
Yeah think so. Considering ye were missing a few decent footballers also. Should push on now.
TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 572 - 24/11/2020 17:20:58 2314813 Link 0 |
I do, the underage pedigree is there and now you've made the breakthrough at senior, if you keep the manager and panel together and add in a few more who have been missing, you'll be a force. The belief is there now like you say, I would expect Cavan to beat Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Down and Fermanagh now. Then I believe ourselves and Tyrones would still be favourites prior to any match between us next year, and a toss-up between yourselves and Monaghan. I feel Monaghan are on a downward spiral however they have proven me wrong a couple of times. I also know that there can be a bit of eye rolling about the league but for the good of your own players and competing against the best, yous need to bounce straight back out of Division 3. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1161 - 24/11/2020 17:21:42 2314815 Link 0 |
I have heard that Bonner may be under pressure, I don't think there is a groundswell from supporters for him to go or at club level, could it be from county board or the players perhaps? .....or it could be after 7 years with minors, u21 and seniors that he is considering his own position? totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 529 - 24/11/2020 18:49:26 2314876 Link 1 |
Yes no reason why not especially now the senior break through has been made. You don't have the run at under 21 Cavan had without having talent. Add to the mix Mickey Graham who certainly has something special about him and I think he gives players results. Sunday showed that mentally Cavan had it and despite all the plaudits Donegal didn't. Cavan have shown they don't have a soft underbelly unlike Donegal. Oddly enough I think winning an Ulster in these strange times might be a benefit to Cavan in terms of the restricted celebrations. On a normal year I imagine it would have been crazy. It is important Cavan come away from the Dublin game with their confidence intact. Then the next step should be getting out of Division 3 immediately. Ulster as always will be tricky next year but I would see Cavan as one of the favourites with Tyrone and Donegal.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2479 - 24/11/2020 19:14:17 2314889 Link 0 |
Be better Craic if they drew us at Breffni, I might even consider booking for a nights stay for that craic when These bloody restrictions are over. Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 39 - 24/11/2020 19:25:02 2314895 Link 0 |
Well he is going to think about his future he said as much on Highland yesterday. You also got to factor what the intentions are of the backroom team. Everything will still be a bit raw to be making decisions. I would very much doubt those at board level or the players would be making noises when the paint is still not dry from the weekend. Especially the players as at the end of the day they didn't perform and quite frankly bottled it again. I imagine they are hurting deeply and wouldn't be looking to put blame on Declan and his backroom team. So my personal opinion is that any of that talk is pure rumour and speculation. However saying that there is a large shadow looming in the background and I am sure if Declan gives any indication he might not return some sounding out will be done there.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2479 - 24/11/2020 19:31:51 2314901 Link 0 |
Would think totalrecall that after putting in that sort of effort over seven years Declan would love to try and get an allireland with them lads he nurtured, he's probably scratching his head as much as anyone as what didn't go right for them on Sunday rather than what went wrong but after a few days I don't think he'd want to Be remembered for the last day, he's around football long enough to know that's some wee thing is missing to bring them over the line and I'd be hoping he takes time to try and figure what's needed, If he goes on he I'll know himself he has some hard calls to make. Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 39 - 24/11/2020 19:33:47 2314905 Link 0 |
Bonner surely has to be questioned. 3 years in a row he's made questionable decision in more less all Ireland quarter finals. If he even makes the decisions which remains to be seen. Great servant to donegal all the same and should maybe get a developmental role as head of underage. Gaelbomber (Donegal) - Posts: 24 - 24/11/2020 19:44:22 2314918 Link 1 |
I cant see players getting involved or county board I think if bonner and his mgt team want another year it will be given. But bonner from this last few years always sounded positive even after the Tyrone and Mayo defeats but from his interview after the game he didn't sound as upbeat this year maybe he is giving consideration to steeping aside and spending more time with his family. The man owes Donegal gaa nothing but hopefully if he can get his back room all back he'll go again next year.. I heard Mc Guinness mentioned wudnt say he'll be interested. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 880 - 24/11/2020 19:57:28 2314931 Link 0 |
Mickey Graham gives players belief not results
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2479 - 24/11/2020 20:23:46 2314943 Link 0 |
Dont think Declan be putting on his slippers yet.It will need a bit of reflection and i am sure we will bounce back. neutral (None) - Posts: 298 - 24/11/2020 20:37:02 2314953 Link 0 |
We played prelim against ye in Ballybofey in 2018, if we drew would it not be in Cavan or do they not reverse it anymore? We're out of the prelims for 3 years now too btw after this year, so at least we'll avoid that
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 993 - 24/11/2020 21:06:54 2314975 Link 0 |
Which I think we'll do. Look, being honest we're too good for Division 3. Everyone kept calling us a Division 3 team recently, but that doesn't tell the full story. We were a kick of a ball from getting promoted on the last day too, tough getting relegated on 6 points. Such a fragmented year as we were flying before lockdown so always hesitant to use league position as a guide, but should see us get promoted easily enough in the Spring. Hopefully anyway
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 993 - 24/11/2020 21:10:24 2314979 Link 1 |
Yes I'd agree with that, it was a harsh relegation really with how things panned out for yous and look a lot of times in one-off championship games the league status can be irrelevant as we know. But I do think playing the best teams in the spring is good for players development - sometimes with a younger team it is beneficial I think to spend a year or two in Division 2 but then need to kick on for the benefit of the players. But yes I expect yous to come straight back up to Div 2 without much hassle. Getting in to Div 1 and staying there then can be difficult, it's always a very competitive division and can be tough for those trying to make the breakthrough permanently to Div 1. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1161 - 24/11/2020 22:09:21 2315020 Link 0 |
I was thinking about this defeat more. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 350 - 24/11/2020 23:53:26 2315067 Link 0 |
If he isn't questioning himself then he isn't worth his salt as a manager. You'll never reach the promised land as a manager without a healthy dose of self-reflection. That's not to say that I think he should or shouldn't step aside, but after seven years without an All-Ireland he certainly needs to face home truths.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 25/11/2020 10:14:25 2315098 Link 0 |
It was the Clare game before lockdown that was costly, Cavan were building momentum before that. Roscommon played a mostly second team in the final game and Cavan didn't beat them, so Cavan weren't good enough. The final performance Sunday is what's needed going forward FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2278 - 25/11/2020 10:19:44 2315099 Link 0 |
Buckley in again ???
eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1176 - 25/11/2020 11:26:07 2315127 Link 0 |
Hi to all you Donegall posters and all my Donegall friends who are in exile like me believe me I feel your pain and know what it's like we've waited 23 years to win Ulster and were on cloud 9 at the moment our players were giants to a man on Sunday they gave everything. I have read books about how Cavan never used to bother training until 2 weeks before an Ulster final those days are long gone. Some of your posts are being very harsh on your team and management and I know your disappointed but Donegall are an awesome side with terrific players and loads more coming through you will win many mor ulsters and dare I say it probably an all Ireland as well your not going away. What Cavan proved is that we are getting a bit closer to yourselves and Tyrone but we have a long way to go to match you consistently. The way Cavan played in the three games previously no one believed that we would beat youse on Sunday therefore you probably underestimated us and had one eye on Dublin one of my Donegall friends said you didn't play well because Cavan didn't let you anyway to me your still the benchmark for us to follow. Up Cavan.
[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 44 - 25/11/2020 11:52:09 2315143 Link 1 |