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NFL Division 2 Resumes

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National Football League Division 2
Fixtures:
Sun, Oct 18, 2020
Round 6 - Clare v Fermanagh @ 13:00
Sat 24, 2020
Round 7 - Fermanagh v Laois @ 14:00

All NFL games will be either televised or livestreamed via the GAAGO.ie website or the GAAGO iOS and Android apps with a pay-per game access priced at €5.

By the way, KeshGFC you have got your game date mixed up! Good to see the colourful macca999 back to stir up the debate. Therefore, I thought the following posts would be relevant to include in this thread.

Posted by hillbilly. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 28 - 08/10/2020 19:03:24 2296459
Good to see that GAA HQ have just announced that go ahead for the remaining NFL fixtures including the Fermanagh v Clare...
Remaining Allianz Leagues fixtures will take place
The remaining fixtures of this year's Allianz Leagues will take place as scheduled despite speculation that the competition could be postponed following the wide spread of Covid-19.
And both the under-17 and under-20 championships are also set to continue - with the GAA's Management Committee due to give a final sanction to those championships later this evening.
All these proposals and recommendations will be made to the Management Committee.
RTÉ Sport understands that the outstanding series of League games will signal the resumption of the inter-county season and will recommence on the weekend of 17 October.
It's believed that counties who cannot field teams may have to forfeit games.
These developments and more were discussed at a virtual meeting between the GAA and its county chairpersons this evening.
All these proposals and recommendations will be made to the GAA's Management Committee later tonight.
Some counties asked for games to be played at neutral venues but there are concerns that the integrity of the competition could be affected if that was implemented - as home and away arrangements had been used until now.
The overriding message from Croke Park to county chiefs was that games were going ahead and that the Association would work through its challenges.
It's understood that the Fermanagh and Clare fixture at Ennis - which was in doubt due to the cluster of positive Covid-19 cases in the Erne County squad - will also go ahead as planned.
Several Fermanagh players are only due to come out of isolation on the morning of that game and manager Ryan McMenamin today called for that crucial clash - they need to win both remaining fixtures to try to avoid relegation - to be postponed but that clash seems likely to go ahead.
The GAA will also stay across developments in the six counties and will monitor the situation closely.
Meanwhile, club championships that have county players involved will be played two weeks after the county team is knocked out of championship.

Posted by ekn_teacher (Fermanagh) - Posts: 238 - 09/10/2020 13:30:29 2296569
So intercounty football returns and it's time for macca to get his tandem on the road again! I suppose we'll soon see him posting his team selection yet it is meaningless considering it's the manager's call and no one else. Anyhow, for the serious posters, I thought it was decided that there would be no promotions or relegations irrespective of the final outcome of the NFL, is that still the case?

Posted by FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2087 - 09/10/2020 16:41:05 2296611
At least he gives an opinion, not a sheep who agrees with the team selected. The forum is for discussion.

Posted by macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 897 - 09/10/2020 21:53:54 2296642
Its okay FG, even in this crazy year of things one thing stays the same with that poster.
God forbid someone give a view on a forum!!
Anyway, main issue at minute being Fermanagh team being forced to play an important fixture in Clare on Sunday week with half team in isolation, with quarnatine ending the day of the game,surely this wouldnt happen Dublin or other big counties. Id hope some "integrity" as the GAA love to portay will prevail and the obvious disadvantage before a fixture will be halted at least.
As if not bad enough team have to travel on day of game and no dressing rooms/showers after etc!!

Posted btyKeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 232 - 10/10/2020 10:16:44 2296660ermanagh senior team should not travel to Ennis tomorrow. They should not fulfil the fixture .. 8 hour round trip in close proximity with others.. no hotel no shower .. it's inhumane... Kildare stood up to Croke park a few years ago with newbridge or nowhere.... for us it ... no player welfare means no show ... not as catchy I know !

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1301 - 10/10/2020 14:01:34    2296688

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You'd have sore eyes trying to read that. Copy paste, copy, paste..

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2228 - 12/10/2020 10:57:56    2296936

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Who is actually posting here ? Match this Sunday yeah right ok I'm getting ahead of myself ........ anyway we should not travel.... simple as that... GAA are like lemmings jumping over the cliff... fulfil these fixtures... get them played come gel high water or worse ... shame on croke park ...

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 240 - 14/10/2020 21:26:34    2297653

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Too many people slobbering here. macca, cavanfool, keshfc and so on. I think ricey has been caught on the hop and now realises that he failed the team earlier in the season and suddenly the penny has dropped the relegation looms! As for gathering up replacement players surely to god if he went around the clubs there is still plenty of talent in ekn gaels, derrygonnelly, ederney, teemore, etc and if he cannot beat bottom of the table Clare then Fermanagh deserves to go down to d3. If yon ederney team are so good then use bunch them!!

barneytown (Fermanagh) - Posts: 289 - 16/10/2020 13:58:09    2298061

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Replying To barneytown:  "Too many people slobbering here. macca, cavanfool, keshfc and so on. I think ricey has been caught on the hop and now realises that he failed the team earlier in the season and suddenly the penny has dropped the relegation looms! As for gathering up replacement players surely to god if he went around the clubs there is still plenty of talent in ekn gaels, derrygonnelly, ederney, teemore, etc and if he cannot beat bottom of the table Clare then Fermanagh deserves to go down to d3. If yon ederney team are so good then use bunch them!!"
So you think Fermanagh have the depth to beat "bottom of the table Clare" without 18 or so players due to covid. Im sure if there was that much talent in them clubs you mentioned they'd be already in the squad. Although I'll presume it's a wind up from you. A fools pardon as they call it.
Fermanagh have had 10 or 11 people out training for the past fortnight going by reports, this is a ridiculous issue.
The fact it's even up for debate that they play the game is a disgrace. Your logic means sure we will pull random fellas out the week of a crucial league game and line them out against an Intercounty division 2 side.
Fermanagh vs Clare are always tight games even when we have a complete squad to choose from.
Let's not forget these Covid cases aren't even including the lads missing through injury !!
It is a complete mess the whole thing. Let's hope we can build some momentum for the Down game and get everyone back training.
Because let's face it, with no help from the GAA in regards to Covid, we are getting relegated

shotgun (Fermanagh) - Posts: 88 - 16/10/2020 16:37:20    2298133

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Replying To barneytown:  "Too many people slobbering here. macca, cavanfool, keshfc and so on. I think ricey has been caught on the hop and now realises that he failed the team earlier in the season and suddenly the penny has dropped the relegation looms! As for gathering up replacement players surely to god if he went around the clubs there is still plenty of talent in ekn gaels, derrygonnelly, ederney, teemore, etc and if he cannot beat bottom of the table Clare then Fermanagh deserves to go down to d3. If yon ederney team are so good then use bunch them!!"
"Too many people slobbering" and then u proceed to slabber like few have slandered before.! Have u read the team sheet ? Why are they even travelling ... almost half the county players don't want this as it is at the moment .....could u imagine a club game going ahead with 17 lads missing ? But it's ok because why we are elite amateurs ? The GAA has plumbed a new low to call players elite to jump through a lockdown loop hole and fulfil these fixtures .. reminds me of big Ian calling ulster beef Irish not British during foot n mouth years ago .. any label will do to get your way !! Shame on Croke Park Shame Shame

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 240 - 16/10/2020 21:52:54    2298217

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keshfc your condemnation of the gaa croke pk is unwarranted as it wasn't them that spread the coronavirus. Players going into a shop and thats by their own admission, and having a chat with mates with no facemasks on when it is compulsory isn't very responsible ..is it? So please hold you tongue and apologise. As i said earlier, Fermanagh's demise started earlier in the league season and they cannot expect gaa croke bosses to do favours.

barneytown (Fermanagh) - Posts: 289 - 16/10/2020 22:30:50    2298227

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So this is the bunch that McMenamin has to play Clare. I suppose it's not bad as I expected but if Clare have the full complement of first team players then it will be an uphill battle.
1. Sean McNally;
2. Kevin McDonnell, 3. Daire O Cathlin, 4. Luke Flanagan;
5. Cian McManus, 6. James McMahon, 7. Kane Connor;
8. Eoin Donnelly, 9. Ryan Jones;
10. Ciaran Corrigan, 11. Eddie Courtney, 12. Josh Largo Ellis;
13. Stephen McGullion, 14. Tomas Corrigan, 15. Declan McCusker.
Subs: Cian Newman, Ruairi Corrigan, Paul McCusker.

BigToeJoe (Fermanagh) - Posts: 126 - 17/10/2020 17:19:35    2298412

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Result:
Sun 18 Sept 2020
NFL Div 3 Rd 6
Clare 1-11 Fermanagh 1-9
Starting team: Sean McNally, Paul McCusker (0-1), Richard O'Callaghan (B/C), Luke Flanagan, Cian McManus, James McMahon, Kane Connor, Eoin Donnelly, Ryan Jones, Ciaran Corrigan (0-1), Conall Jones, Josh Largo Ellis, Stephen McGullion, Tomas Corrigan (0-3f, 0-2), Declan McCusker (0-1).
Substitutions: Darragh McGurn (0-1) for Paul McCusker; Aidan Breen for Conall Jones; Eddie Courtney (1-0 P) for Richard O'Callaghan; Lorcan McStravick for Tomas Corrigan.

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1301 - 18/10/2020 14:44:52    2298727

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Replying To barneytown:  "keshfc your condemnation of the gaa croke pk is unwarranted as it wasn't them that spread the coronavirus. Players going into a shop and thats by their own admission, and having a chat with mates with no facemasks on when it is compulsory isn't very responsible ..is it? So please hold you tongue and apologise. As i said earlier, Fermanagh's demise started earlier in the league season and they cannot expect gaa croke bosses to do favours."
Did u actually read my post ?? The GAA should be embarrassed to come up with this elite athlete tag to get games played .. either we are elite or we are amateur .. they are playing with labels to force Matchez through for what ? Sky/ Sunday game viiewers .. how u link GAA to lads catching the virus from what I said is a mystery ..or is it say what unlike but never insult the ruling party that is the GAA .. get out of it

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 240 - 22/10/2020 15:50:33    2300262

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Just watched that on GAAGO ..Felt like being in the athletic ground in 1993 watching the closing minutes today .. we are exactly where we belong .. though why Ricey wanted us to change how we played to defend a lead is a mystery ... ah well .... glad lockdown kept me away from seeing that in person today

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 240 - 24/10/2020 15:50:27    2300766

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Replying To KeshGFC:  "Just watched that on GAAGO ..Felt like being in the athletic ground in 1993 watching the closing minutes today .. we are exactly where we belong .. though why Ricey wanted us to change how we played to defend a lead is a mystery ... ah well .... glad lockdown kept me away from seeing that in person today"
It was all that. This team has went backwards in 12 months. There was no covid today and can't understand why Ricey keeps playing these younger players when you have the likes of Donnelly, Jones and Breen on the bench. Seems like he is going to make an excuse for this relegation because he has blooded players through. A real shambles, not looking forward to the Down game

Doire_Loin14 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 2 - 25/10/2020 14:45:05    2301148

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The players who travelled to Clare last weekend firstly have to be commended for their efforts in representing the county in extreme circumstances, as said by many, other "big counties" would have been allowed postpone had it happened them. The GAA yet again showed their priorities in this regard.

This year has been strange in many ways,the first part of the league seems lifettime ago,however one thing that hasnt changed in this crazy world currently is Fermanaghs flaws, wasting possession, slow build up play, and not converting their chances.
Against Laois alone, we dropped at least 5 balls short into keepers hands, in Ennis had two excellent goal chances on top of the 4/5 scoreable frees in first half.

There can be no arguing that we arent where we deserve to be given the standard of performances this year, Fermanagh were relegated well before the game in Clare.

The best football played was in Newbridge and the second half v Roscommon,other than that been little else to shout about really. The game in Mullingar was there to be won, strong breeze second half and numerous chances and frees but lack of confident free taker cost us dearly, then didnt get anything from the Cavan/Armagh games in Brewster the latter a tough beating that showed survival would be unlikely.

Its been tough first year for Ricey, losing both the Cullens left the defence open(Che only got few games in) and Sean Quigley meant no reliable free taker as Tomas only fit for last 2 games, with how we play frees are crucial source of scores. Rorys style was often slated but in terms of results it shows that he certainly got maximum for the group in terms of results.

Ciaran Corrigan was again probably most consistent performer and Ricey had him closer to goal, great speed and ability to beat a man, though just not a natural forward to maximise the positions he gets himself into.

The championship is hard to call really, like all things at minute anything could happen, both teams will fancy it, though think neither will get further than semi final.

Looking ahead to division 3 in 2021,promotion will be a tough ask with Cavan,Derry and Longford all in the mix. Ricey blooded a few new players this year and id say be more youngers lads involved next year with Largo Ellis, Horan, Conor Love and hopefully Micheal Glynn being involved. if promotion is to be a possibility, will need a established number 1 keeper, the Cullens ,plus fit Tomas Corrigan and hopefully the return of Sean Quigley

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 901 - 26/10/2020 15:39:31    2301666

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Replying To macca999:  "The players who travelled to Clare last weekend firstly have to be commended for their efforts in representing the county in extreme circumstances, as said by many, other "big counties" would have been allowed postpone had it happened them. The GAA yet again showed their priorities in this regard.

This year has been strange in many ways,the first part of the league seems lifettime ago,however one thing that hasnt changed in this crazy world currently is Fermanaghs flaws, wasting possession, slow build up play, and not converting their chances.
Against Laois alone, we dropped at least 5 balls short into keepers hands, in Ennis had two excellent goal chances on top of the 4/5 scoreable frees in first half.

There can be no arguing that we arent where we deserve to be given the standard of performances this year, Fermanagh were relegated well before the game in Clare.

The best football played was in Newbridge and the second half v Roscommon,other than that been little else to shout about really. The game in Mullingar was there to be won, strong breeze second half and numerous chances and frees but lack of confident free taker cost us dearly, then didnt get anything from the Cavan/Armagh games in Brewster the latter a tough beating that showed survival would be unlikely.

Its been tough first year for Ricey, losing both the Cullens left the defence open(Che only got few games in) and Sean Quigley meant no reliable free taker as Tomas only fit for last 2 games, with how we play frees are crucial source of scores. Rorys style was often slated but in terms of results it shows that he certainly got maximum for the group in terms of results.

Ciaran Corrigan was again probably most consistent performer and Ricey had him closer to goal, great speed and ability to beat a man, though just not a natural forward to maximise the positions he gets himself into.

The championship is hard to call really, like all things at minute anything could happen, both teams will fancy it, though think neither will get further than semi final.

Looking ahead to division 3 in 2021,promotion will be a tough ask with Cavan,Derry and Longford all in the mix. Ricey blooded a few new players this year and id say be more youngers lads involved next year with Largo Ellis, Horan, Conor Love and hopefully Micheal Glynn being involved. if promotion is to be a possibility, will need a established number 1 keeper, the Cullens ,plus fit Tomas Corrigan and hopefully the return of Sean Quigley"
Fair play good summary .. I remember coming away from Newbridge thinking Ricey had struck a really good balance of attacking play and then then we fought back against the Rossies I thought hell here we go for a great season.. but every man and his dog now knows we just can't finish .. and the number of goal chances we spurn is crazy ... disagree with u on the return of Sean Q though .. as he does nothing in open play and we can't carry a free taker for 70 mins unless he gets seriously fit he can't be an option .. thankfully we have serious options coming through the ranks and maybe a season of hitting scores in the lower ranks will do the confidence good for 12 months.. don't see Derry or Longford as big threats in 2021 though ... and we have to get over the mental block of beating Cavan at some poInt if we are ever to develop .. but hell this is our level .. we are destined to bounce between div 2 and 3 it's as much as we can hope for in the long term given our resources

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 240 - 26/10/2020 21:36:16    2301802

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Well well it's no surprise to see macca999's prediction and I see why is he referred to a a fence-sitter. In another part of his message he is making excused for the manager and painting him as the greatest thing since sliced bread whereas if he was honest he knows that the man has failed his team rather than the team failing him. However, what annoyed me most was going on and on about how some missing Lecker and Kinawley players yet little acknowledgement of our Gaels club players and other fine seasoned club players that seemed to have slipped his memory preferring to day dream about youngsters that may or may not have a decent future with the team.

Here is part of what he said...
...the championship is hard to call really, like all things at minute anything could happen, both teams will fancy it, though think neither will get further than semi final.

Looking ahead to division 3 in 2021,promotion will be a tough ask with Cavan,Derry and Longford all in the mix. Ricey blooded a few new players this year and id say be more youngers lads involved next year with Largo Ellis, Horan, Conor Love and hopefully Micheal Glynn being involved. if promotion is to be a possibility, will need a established number 1 keeper, the Cullens ,plus fit Tomas Corrigan and hopefully the return of Sean Quigley

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barneytown (Fermanagh) - Posts: 289 - 27/10/2020 13:36:39    2301992

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Replying To macca999:  "The players who travelled to Clare last weekend firstly have to be commended for their efforts in representing the county in extreme circumstances, as said by many, other "big counties" would have been allowed postpone had it happened them. The GAA yet again showed their priorities in this regard.

This year has been strange in many ways,the first part of the league seems lifettime ago,however one thing that hasnt changed in this crazy world currently is Fermanaghs flaws, wasting possession, slow build up play, and not converting their chances.
Against Laois alone, we dropped at least 5 balls short into keepers hands, in Ennis had two excellent goal chances on top of the 4/5 scoreable frees in first half.

There can be no arguing that we arent where we deserve to be given the standard of performances this year, Fermanagh were relegated well before the game in Clare.

The best football played was in Newbridge and the second half v Roscommon,other than that been little else to shout about really. The game in Mullingar was there to be won, strong breeze second half and numerous chances and frees but lack of confident free taker cost us dearly, then didnt get anything from the Cavan/Armagh games in Brewster the latter a tough beating that showed survival would be unlikely.

Its been tough first year for Ricey, losing both the Cullens left the defence open(Che only got few games in) and Sean Quigley meant no reliable free taker as Tomas only fit for last 2 games, with how we play frees are crucial source of scores. Rorys style was often slated but in terms of results it shows that he certainly got maximum for the group in terms of results.

Ciaran Corrigan was again probably most consistent performer and Ricey had him closer to goal, great speed and ability to beat a man, though just not a natural forward to maximise the positions he gets himself into.

The championship is hard to call really, like all things at minute anything could happen, both teams will fancy it, though think neither will get further than semi final.

Looking ahead to division 3 in 2021,promotion will be a tough ask with Cavan,Derry and Longford all in the mix. Ricey blooded a few new players this year and id say be more youngers lads involved next year with Largo Ellis, Horan, Conor Love and hopefully Micheal Glynn being involved. if promotion is to be a possibility, will need a established number 1 keeper, the Cullens ,plus fit Tomas Corrigan and hopefully the return of Sean Quigley"
I agree with some of your thinking but I don't agree with you optimistic hope for Quigley"s return as I think his best days are over in regards to county standard. Also, in regard to the Ulster championship I don't believe that Ricey expects his team to progress beyond the Down game nor does his team or any rational thinking GAA Fermanagh supporter. I doubt if there will be McKenna Cup round this time round. As for d3 next year I believe it's what Fermanagh needs to relaunch itself and see how a younger revamped team fairs. I say it will be at least two to three years before we see a strong team that would be capable of grasping an Ulster title. All we can do is live in hope.

TurnipHead. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 212 - 28/10/2020 11:08:41    2302389

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I notice that the macca man complains if I make a comment but he doesn't address other people's posts yet he says that wants debate. My assessment is that he has tunnel vision believing his views are correct and everyone else are not worthy of a reply. Purely self centred!

ekn_teacher (Fermanagh) - Posts: 242 - 30/10/2020 13:48:34    2303081

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Barneytown, i did mention Brandon Horan and Conor Love in my post, last time i checked both Gaels men.

Kesh, id agree, Sean Quigley would need to be fit in order to be getting place, that has been issue previously but a fit Sean would be a huge boost again. Turniphead at 28 he is far from past his best now, definitely more than capable of improving our county team,without doubt.

eknteacher, you must have ronseal on your trousers from that fence you never get off

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 901 - 30/10/2020 14:32:20    2303094

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