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Replying To newyorklad:  "senior division trying to meet with intermediate division next week to see if the can try combine the divisions even after it was passed at congress that intermediates did not want it"
The combined clubs rejected the idea of combining the senior and intermediate section. This was done for very obvious reasons. A schedule having Monaghanv versus Rangers and Donegal versus Tyrone was ludicrous. Then Monaghan v Tyrone and Donegal versus Rangers. By all reports no effort was made by the officers to convince Sligo, Westmeath, Longford, Mayo and other strong teams to go senior. The intercounty transfers should have been abolished. No club wants to be senior just to provide challenge games for Donegal, Kerry, and Monaghan.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 549 - 17/03/2017 19:38:44    1967940

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "The combined clubs rejected the idea of combining the senior and intermediate section. This was done for very obvious reasons. A schedule having Monaghanv versus Rangers and Donegal versus Tyrone was ludicrous. Then Monaghan v Tyrone and Donegal versus Rangers. By all reports no effort was made by the officers to convince Sligo, Westmeath, Longford, Mayo and other strong teams to go senior. The intercounty transfers should have been abolished. No club wants to be senior just to provide challenge games for Donegal, Kerry, and Monaghan."
Agree with Gaa Fan. One side games would be detrimental to the GAA. Tyrone, Rangers, Leitrim and Mayo would be no match for senior teams. Cork are now in Junior A and hopefully they wont behave like a senior team there. Cavan are not likely to win their appeal since they pleaded the same case last year and were successful in intermediate. They should be made go senior or take a break. So its 4 teams in senior this year and if Kerry win intermediate then senior is finished.

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 548 - 18/03/2017 16:29:30    1968175

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Replying To Crossgaa:  "Agree with Gaa Fan. One side games would be detrimental to the GAA. Tyrone, Rangers, Leitrim and Mayo would be no match for senior teams. Cork are now in Junior A and hopefully they wont behave like a senior team there. Cavan are not likely to win their appeal since they pleaded the same case last year and were successful in intermediate. They should be made go senior or take a break. So its 4 teams in senior this year and if Kerry win intermediate then senior is finished."
I really don't understand how Cork can drop from senior to Junior A just like that... in the last few years we have seen Leitrim and Armagh having to take a year out when wanting to drop to junior... surely Cork would have to do this too? very unfair on junior clubs

NYCcavanman (USA) - Posts: 204 - 20/03/2017 15:34:43    1969145

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Replying To NYCcavanman:  "I really don't understand how Cork can drop from senior to Junior A just like that... in the last few years we have seen Leitrim and Armagh having to take a year out when wanting to drop to junior... surely Cork would have to do this too? very unfair on junior clubs"
Agree with you, this is happening every year now where teams are dropping in divisions instead of looking to win and progress to Senior. Says a lot about the state of the Senior division, that county teams are dropping down to Junior. If that is true about Cork, that would mean 4 county teams (even though Monaghan have a Senior team so a 2nd team at lower division is understandable) are playing Junior A football. Don't really know what the answer to this is at the moment, to much time, effort beaten out every year by money.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 20/03/2017 17:18:39    1969206

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lads when is football season kicking off in Gaelic park? there'll have to be a few games played before sligo game right?

billythekid69 (USA) - Posts: 35 - 21/03/2017 18:08:58    1969621

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Replying To billythekid69:  "lads when is football season kicking off in Gaelic park? there'll have to be a few games played before sligo game right?"
Yeah Billy, a round of championship matches will have to be played by the May 7th match between NY and Sligo to get the players qualified. There will be knockout cup going on soon into April for the home based players, before championship starts.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 21/03/2017 20:27:22    1969692

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Replying To NarrowBack914:  "Yeah Billy, a round of championship matches will have to be played by the May 7th match between NY and Sligo to get the players qualified. There will be knockout cup going on soon into April for the home based players, before championship starts."
if they haven't nailed down what teams will be in what divisions yet, I cant see anything kicking off soon... they usually have league fixtures out by now...

NYCcavanman (USA) - Posts: 204 - 21/03/2017 20:56:29    1969717

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Replying To NYCcavanman:  "if they haven't nailed down what teams will be in what divisions yet, I cant see anything kicking off soon... they usually have league fixtures out by now..."
True NYCcavanman, the fixture list usually for knockout is thrown together, has been for the last few years. The NYGAA is more concerned with getting the senior team fixtures sorted to qualify the boys for the NY v Sligo match....same story every year. Like you said though, they better have the divisions sorted soon in order to get anything started. Last year, a couple of the divisions only played 1 match then semi final/final for knockout just to get it out of the way...it appears to be more a nuisance to the them then something they want do keep going. You know yourself, there is no respect for the home based players anymore.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 22/03/2017 13:42:29    1969967

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Will there possibly be players on the New York squad who played no football yet in the City ? If so this is a slap in the face to the resident players and particularly the American born players. Of the four teams in the junior semis two were American in 2016, and one American team in the junior final.
Of the four teams in the senior 2016 semi-final, one was American. How many of those thirty five players are on the NY panel ?

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 549 - 22/03/2017 15:24:06    1970015

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "Will there possibly be players on the New York squad who played no football yet in the City ? If so this is a slap in the face to the resident players and particularly the American born players. Of the four teams in the junior semis two were American in 2016, and one American team in the junior final.
Of the four teams in the senior 2016 semi-final, one was American. How many of those thirty five players are on the NY panel ?"
Ive heard grumblings of this GAA Fan, but don't see how this is possible. In order to play in this match, you would have had to play here in last year's championship…as per the rules, but then again we know they often get overlooked. Agree with all the American born and raised players that are eligible for the team, only 2 or 3 get picked, and only 1 if lucky will see any playing time. Ah its always the case where we are left guessing at what is going on behind the scenes, that is why a lot of people are fed up with GAA here, to many things going on behind the scenes. After the near upset last year, no team from Ireland will take NY lightly, so beating Sligo will be a huge ask….the few boys i know that are on the panel said training is going very well and that boys are dedicated, so all we can do is get behind ours boys.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 22/03/2017 19:39:15    1970119

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Replying To NarrowBack914:  "Ive heard grumblings of this GAA Fan, but don't see how this is possible. In order to play in this match, you would have had to play here in last year's championship…as per the rules, but then again we know they often get overlooked. Agree with all the American born and raised players that are eligible for the team, only 2 or 3 get picked, and only 1 if lucky will see any playing time. Ah its always the case where we are left guessing at what is going on behind the scenes, that is why a lot of people are fed up with GAA here, to many things going on behind the scenes. After the near upset last year, no team from Ireland will take NY lightly, so beating Sligo will be a huge ask….the few boys i know that are on the panel said training is going very well and that boys are dedicated, so all we can do is get behind ours boys."
Checked on new players and am told that they do not have played in New York last year. They cannot have played a championship game in an other county board this year. They just transfer into NY and play one NY championship game before the Connacht game to be eligible.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 549 - 23/03/2017 15:48:06    1970451

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Croke park has once again put a nail in NY Gaa by overruling our recently passed bye laws.
So now we can take county players as sanctions and we're back to unlimited transfers.
This is perfect for the big money clubs. Can't believe Croke Park interfeared with an organization that was trying to save itself.
Why do we elect these delegates to represent New York when it's only their own club they are about.
Senior football is now officially gone!!

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 548 - 24/03/2017 10:35:43    1970638

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Replying To Crossgaa:  "Croke park has once again put a nail in NY Gaa by overruling our recently passed bye laws.
So now we can take county players as sanctions and we're back to unlimited transfers.
This is perfect for the big money clubs. Can't believe Croke Park interfeared with an organization that was trying to save itself.
Why do we elect these delegates to represent New York when it's only their own club they are about.
Senior football is now officially gone!!"
cross what happened at meeting last night

newyorklad (USA) - Posts: 111 - 24/03/2017 14:33:47    1970716

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What a shame that the NY board is allowed to let this happen. It's over. The money buddies win again. All muat go

standman99 (Offaly) - Posts: 72 - 24/03/2017 15:40:14    1970738

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Replying To standman99:  "What a shame that the NY board is allowed to let this happen. It's over. The money buddies win again. All muat go"
Let It Happen? The Big Boys lost this at the Convention, They went back to Croke Park to get this over turned. Croke Park just didnt decide to change this Back.

ranger (None) - Posts: 166 - 24/03/2017 16:23:58    1970750

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Report from New York is that there is going to be three senior teams and one intermediate team in the senior section this year. Two rounds with all four making the play-offs. A very sad day for NY. Gone the way of Philly and Chicago.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 549 - 24/03/2017 16:59:35    1970758

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Agree. Delegates rolled over again.

DNGAA (USA) - Posts: 4 - 24/03/2017 17:10:46    1970764

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Wow, you guys serious??? The 2 Senior teams and about 3 Inter clubs are the only ones to blame. Delegates do not vote against any motion that is calling for change, the delegates are to scared of falling out of favor with the Board. Serious loss for all the clubs dedicated to keeping this game going here. Its hard enough trying to keep native born kids involved after u16, with going to college and other sports, but the ones wanting to continue get pushed to the side for these $$$$ players. Again the Senior Board have let down the Minor Board….so who are the 3 teams in Senior: Kerry, Donegal and Monaghan???? And what Inter team is going to compete in Senior, Cavan? Westmeath? Longford? Only Cavan should have been made go up with winning Inter last year. Cut out sanctions and cut inter counties down to 2 each. For the life of me, i honestly think people are voting and making decisions to kill the GAA in NY totally.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 24/03/2017 18:53:04    1970794

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NarrowBack914 you think that is bad
Heard at a recent meeting NYGAA Chairman when asked about schedule for games said we wont have use of Park after Sligo game for up to eight weeks. Someone said games will be held in Paddys field and Rockland. Manhattan College is ripping up the pitch on their off season, no GAA games at the Park, in May, June and possibly July

DNGAA (USA) - Posts: 4 - 24/03/2017 19:32:06    1970807

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Replying To DNGAA:  "NarrowBack914 you think that is bad
Heard at a recent meeting NYGAA Chairman when asked about schedule for games said we wont have use of Park after Sligo game for up to eight weeks. Someone said games will be held in Paddys field and Rockland. Manhattan College is ripping up the pitch on their off season, no GAA games at the Park, in May, June and possibly July"
No way???? I didn't hear anything about the field at Gaelic Park getting ripped up…..no games for May, June and possibly July is a COMPLETE joke! Thats the whole season. Paddy's Field is way to small to have competitive Senior Board matches there. I know, i grew up playing there all underage, no way could you expect a good match of Junior, Inter or Senior. And don't get me going on Rockland, how are you going to ask boys from Queens, Brooklyn, the Island to go up for a 630 match during the week. Absolute nonsense. Hope these are all just rumors and bar talk.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 24/03/2017 20:08:20    1970813

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