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McKenna Cup Fixtures 2018…
Section A: St Mary's, Tyrone, Cavan, Cavan
Section B: Ulster University, Derry, Down, Armagh
Section C: QUB, Donegal, Monaghan, Fermanagh
Round 1 - 3rd Jan (Wed)
Round 2 - 7th Jan (Sun)
Round 3 - 10th Jan (Wed)
Semi Finals - 14th Jan (Sun)
Final - 20th / 21st Jan (Sat / Sun)

All Sunday games at 2:00pm. All midweek games at 8:00pm.
(Extra time to be played in Semi Finals & Final)

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1292 - 01/12/2017 10:23:30    2064191

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Additional info...Semi-final pairings: Winners of Section C v Winners of Section A. Winners of Section B v Best Placed Runner Up

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1292 - 01/12/2017 19:17:18    2064242

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Fixtures

Wednesday 3rd January
Group C
Fermanagh v Monaghan at Brewster Park 8pm Throw In

Sunday 7th January
Group C
Fermanagh v Queens University at Brewster Park 2pm Throw In

Wednesday 10th January
Group C
Donegal v Fermanagh at Ballybofey 8pm Throw In.

Semi Finals Sunday 14th with Final Saturday 20th January.

Roll on 2018,good to get the show on road again,hear that county panel training hard last few weeks!

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 896 - 05/12/2017 21:01:29    2064506

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Good to see Eamonn Maguire back in the squad. The return too of other players, the squad will be greatly enhanced. Looks as if the new manager is key to improving our county's potential prospects!

gaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 756 - 18/12/2017 13:33:00    2065521

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Good to see Eamon Maguire back,still has something to offer and always has a good level of fitness.


Interesting to see management are looking at Pat Cadden as option for keeper,shows how the role of keeper has evolved. Eoin Beacom a bright prospect also training in panelalways good to see fresh youngsters involved,seems though that Mickey Jones may not be donning the green jersey anymore which be huge blow,talk that Che Cullen may be travelling but hopefully both of these lads are available in 2018.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 896 - 19/12/2017 09:19:30    2065569

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Not sure that it is wise of macca999 to inflate the role of fresh young players especially those playing at lower tier football like division two where the quality of football wouldn't be of the standard that a county team would or should have. The exception would be those from Donagh or Teemore where the team floats up and down in league division football hence the likes of Eamonn Maguire being the exception rather than the norm of reasonable players emerging from lower tier football.

AuldGussie (Fermanagh) - Posts: 71 - 19/12/2017 13:23:51    2065598

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Well the McKenna Cup 2018 start tomorrow night, Wednesday Jan 3 when our Fermanagh team is scheduled to meet Monaghan in Brewster Park at 8pm. However, looking at the rainfall, I wonder if Brewster Park will be playable?
I hear that the new manager intends to keep squad training inaccessible to outsiders and only those authorised to be there will be permitted access....macca please note!

cillnaile. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 959 - 02/01/2018 17:52:04    2066510

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Well said Cinnaile,with this rain id doubt if Brewster Park will be playable(Tyrone game already moved to Armagh), if keeps up not sure will be a game tonight and dont see many alternative venues that can switch too at this notice.

Hopefully wrong and the first game of 2018 goes ahead to blow the cobwebs away!

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 896 - 03/01/2018 09:24:26    2066558

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The McKenna Cup game between Fermanagh and Monaghan still goes ahead tonight at 8pm after pitch inspection!

cillnaile. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 959 - 03/01/2018 17:56:53    2066653

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MCKENNA CUP - GROUP C - ROUND ONE Full time score: Fermanagh 2-11 Monaghan 0-12. The Man of the Match is Aidan Breen. Fermanagh starting team: Patrick Cadden (Donagh), Eamon McHugh (Derrygonnelly), Che Cullen (Bellanaleck), John McCann (Erne Gaels), Paul McCusker (Ederney), Declan McCusker (Ederney), Lee Cullen (Bellanaleck), Eoin Donnelly (Coa), Ryan Jonres (Derrygonnelly), Eoin McManus (Teemore), Ryan Lyons (Erne Gaels), Aidan Breen (Tempo), Lorcan McStravick (Tempo), Conall Jones (Derrygonnelly), Sean Quigley (Roslea). Fielding subs: Conor McGee (Ederney) temporary sub only for Ryan Jones, Cian McManus (Teemore) for John McCann, Ruairi Corrigan (Kinawley) for Eoin McManus, Eddie Courtney (Aghadrumsee) for Sean Quigley, Conor McGee (Ederney) for Lorcan McStravick, Johnny Feeley on for Lee Cullen (black carded). Half time score: Fermanagh 0-5 Monaghan 06. Fermanagh scorers: Sean Quigley(0-2), Eoin McManus (0-1), Conall Jones (1-2), Paul McCusker (0-1), Aidan Breen (1-1), Ryan Lyons (0-1), Ryan Jones (0-1), Conor McGee (0-1), Ruairi Corrigan (0-1).

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1292 - 03/01/2018 21:45:42    2066690

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A decent start to the inter-county season in awful conditions against a very experimental Monaghan side.
Good performances from Aidan Breen, Conal Jones and Pat Cadden in goals worked very well including good save in second half.

Great work rate from both teams,both eager to impress, Fermanagh had a lot of poor wides but im sure this will be worked on as season progresses,plus number of players to come in to the forward positions.

The corner back positions appear to be were need to work on strengthening as young Wilson and Garland for Monaghan created lots of problems,was an area that struggled in majorly in 2017 also.

Positive enough start which will look to build on again this Sunday against Queens and im sure be fair few changes to the team from last night.(hopefully rain eases as pitch very soft after last night).

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 896 - 04/01/2018 10:08:35    2066737

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My Player Ratings v Monaghan:

Patrick Cadden 7 - Good distribution & smart save second half to keep them goalless. Best option for us in nets

Eamon McHugh 7 - difficult for both corner backs but coped reasonably well with wilson. made 2 good tackles
Che Cullen 7- freeman was lively and won a good bit in front but Cullen was game and Solid where it counted
John McCann 6 - had a tough job in tracking the non stop Garland but I think he cant be overly disappointed with his debut

Paul McCusker 8 - work rate tremendous as always and got forward well, just needs to learn to press closer in that unfamiliar defensive role when the opportunity to double up is on.
Declan McCusker 9 - played at championship pace, block, tackles and supporting the forwards from no.6. V good display
Lee Cullen 8 - again, put a serious shift in and seems impossible to stop when in full stride, missed sitter of a point!

Eoin Donnelly 6 - Frustrated at times with his over-running of the ball (not for the 1st time ever!) but was fairly steady throughout
Ryan Jones 6, - looked tired after a long season with club understandably, needs to switch on to marking quicker! the correct midfield paiting but we need more from them both by the time we begin the league.

Eoin McManus 7 - Good to see him get meaningful game time, thought he showed well bar the odd mistake
Ryan Lyons 6 - maybe a harsh 6 but he seen a good bit of possession yet made some poor decisions, but did work hard,
Aidan Breen 9 - like mccusker played at championship pace, got scores and set up chances, v good game.

Lorcan McStravick 6 - again maybe harsh giving a 6, showed well at times and wasnt afraid to shoot but quiet for large spells, like mccann however he shouldnt be anyway disappointed.
Conall Jones 8 - Wanted the ball constantly and took his scores very well, wouldnt have him on frees though!
Sean Quigley 6- quite disappointing bar a lovely strike from play on the 45. looks leaner but with a bit to go still.

McGee, McManus (Cian) and R Corrigan all made significant contributions coming off the bench. All in all an encouraging start with maybe 5-6 regulars still to feature. Monaghan largely a trialist team but still nice to see a decent performance from Fermanagh and good start to 2018.

RedRum (Fermanagh) - Posts: 265 - 04/01/2018 16:35:32    2066820

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Replying To RedRum:  "My Player Ratings v Monaghan:

Patrick Cadden 7 - Good distribution & smart save second half to keep them goalless. Best option for us in nets

Eamon McHugh 7 - difficult for both corner backs but coped reasonably well with wilson. made 2 good tackles
Che Cullen 7- freeman was lively and won a good bit in front but Cullen was game and Solid where it counted
John McCann 6 - had a tough job in tracking the non stop Garland but I think he cant be overly disappointed with his debut

Paul McCusker 8 - work rate tremendous as always and got forward well, just needs to learn to press closer in that unfamiliar defensive role when the opportunity to double up is on.
Declan McCusker 9 - played at championship pace, block, tackles and supporting the forwards from no.6. V good display
Lee Cullen 8 - again, put a serious shift in and seems impossible to stop when in full stride, missed sitter of a point!

Eoin Donnelly 6 - Frustrated at times with his over-running of the ball (not for the 1st time ever!) but was fairly steady throughout
Ryan Jones 6, - looked tired after a long season with club understandably, needs to switch on to marking quicker! the correct midfield paiting but we need more from them both by the time we begin the league.

Eoin McManus 7 - Good to see him get meaningful game time, thought he showed well bar the odd mistake
Ryan Lyons 6 - maybe a harsh 6 but he seen a good bit of possession yet made some poor decisions, but did work hard,
Aidan Breen 9 - like mccusker played at championship pace, got scores and set up chances, v good game.

Lorcan McStravick 6 - again maybe harsh giving a 6, showed well at times and wasnt afraid to shoot but quiet for large spells, like mccann however he shouldnt be anyway disappointed.
Conall Jones 8 - Wanted the ball constantly and took his scores very well, wouldnt have him on frees though!
Sean Quigley 6- quite disappointing bar a lovely strike from play on the 45. looks leaner but with a bit to go still.

McGee, McManus (Cian) and R Corrigan all made significant contributions coming off the bench. All in all an encouraging start with maybe 5-6 regulars still to feature. Monaghan largely a trialist team but still nice to see a decent performance from Fermanagh and good start to 2018."
Hi Rum, good assessment there and much better than maccas. I think Gallagher is showing a new management style and is certainly acutely aware when to make changes. Young Conor McGee showed promise as did the goalie Cadden who appears to a be safer pair of hands than his predecessors. I thought Quigley should have been more active. I thought your high rating (8 and 9) for some players slightly generous. Breen was very good as was Lee Cullen and Conal Jones. C. Mcmanus showed promise. I see the change of manager as the key to Fermanagh's early success.

AuldGussie (Fermanagh) - Posts: 71 - 04/01/2018 21:50:30    2066860

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MCKENNA CUP - GROUP C - ROUND TWO Full time score: Fermanagh 1-10 Queens University 1-9. Half time score: Fermanagh 0-6 Queens University 1-4. Fermanagh scorers: Conall Jones (0-6), Ruairi Corrigan (0-1), Ryan Jones (0-1), Paul McCusker (0-1), Aidan Breen (0-1), Seamus Quigley (1-0). Fermanagh starting team: Thomas Treacy (Devenish), Eamon McHugh (Derrygonnelly), Lee Cullen (Bellanaleck), Kane Conor (Bellanaleck), Paul McCusker (Ederney), Declan McCusker (Ederney), Ryan Jones (Derrygonnelly), Eoin McManus (Teemore), Ryan Lyons (Belleek), Ruairi Corrigan (Kinawley), Aidan Breen (Tempo), Daniel Teague (Maguiresbridge), Conall Jones (Derrygonnelly), Conor McGee (Ederney). Fielding subs: Eoin Donnelly (Coa) for Eoin McManus, Seamus (Roslea) for Daniel Teague, Barry Mulrone (Devenish) for Conor McGee, Lorcan McStravick (Tempo) for Ryan Lyons, Eddie Courtney (Aghadrumsee) for Ruairi Corrigan, Sean Quigley (Roslea) for Aidan Breen.

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1292 - 07/01/2018 17:21:39    2067205

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Replying To AuldGussie:  "
Replying To RedRum:  "My Player Ratings v Monaghan:

Patrick Cadden 7 - Good distribution & smart save second half to keep them goalless. Best option for us in nets

Eamon McHugh 7 - difficult for both corner backs but coped reasonably well with wilson. made 2 good tackles
Che Cullen 7- freeman was lively and won a good bit in front but Cullen was game and Solid where it counted
John McCann 6 - had a tough job in tracking the non stop Garland but I think he cant be overly disappointed with his debut

Paul McCusker 8 - work rate tremendous as always and got forward well, just needs to learn to press closer in that unfamiliar defensive role when the opportunity to double up is on.
Declan McCusker 9 - played at championship pace, block, tackles and supporting the forwards from no.6. V good display
Lee Cullen 8 - again, put a serious shift in and seems impossible to stop when in full stride, missed sitter of a point!

Eoin Donnelly 6 - Frustrated at times with his over-running of the ball (not for the 1st time ever!) but was fairly steady throughout
Ryan Jones 6, - looked tired after a long season with club understandably, needs to switch on to marking quicker! the correct midfield paiting but we need more from them both by the time we begin the league.

Eoin McManus 7 - Good to see him get meaningful game time, thought he showed well bar the odd mistake
Ryan Lyons 6 - maybe a harsh 6 but he seen a good bit of possession yet made some poor decisions, but did work hard,
Aidan Breen 9 - like mccusker played at championship pace, got scores and set up chances, v good game.

Lorcan McStravick 6 - again maybe harsh giving a 6, showed well at times and wasnt afraid to shoot but quiet for large spells, like mccann however he shouldnt be anyway disappointed.
Conall Jones 8 - Wanted the ball constantly and took his scores very well, wouldnt have him on frees though!
Sean Quigley 6- quite disappointing bar a lovely strike from play on the 45. looks leaner but with a bit to go still.

McGee, McManus (Cian) and R Corrigan all made significant contributions coming off the bench. All in all an encouraging start with maybe 5-6 regulars still to feature. Monaghan largely a trialist team but still nice to see a decent performance from Fermanagh and good start to 2018."
Hi Rum, good assessment there and much better than maccas. I think Gallagher is showing a new management style and is certainly acutely aware when to make changes. Young Conor McGee showed promise as did the goalie Cadden who appears to a be safer pair of hands than his predecessors. I thought Quigley should have been more active. I thought your high rating (8 and 9) for some players slightly generous. Breen was very good as was Lee Cullen and Conal Jones. C. Mcmanus showed promise. I see the change of manager as the key to Fermanagh's early success."
Hope you keep doing the ratings of the players after the matchs, and maybe do a wee rating on the ref too.

ERNEDEVIL (Fermanagh) - Posts: 51 - 07/01/2018 22:48:08    2067258

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I think those in attendance yesterday would agree that it may be pointless handing out player ratings (for the first half showing at least), but its important to note that with the quantity and level of training these lads are doing, we'll inevitably get served up some poor showings early on in the year. Hopefully it will all bed itself in for when it matters... anyway I'll give my opinion:

Thomas Treacy 7 - Like Cadden the last day, good distribution and i was impressed with him under the high ball, will need to keep it up to battle for the no.1 jersey this year.

Eamon McHugh 9 - at times looked like the only man in white switched on. Excellent from start to finish, tackled and positioned himself brilliantly throughout, never over complicates getting the ball out the field either. *MOM
Lee Cullen 6 - Done ok, tried to stick to his task, nothing remarkable or of note.
Cian McManus 6 - Also done ok, we'll always get 100% with this lad and he is a plague for corner forwards, could be pivotal with the loss of Mickey Jones as a man marker

Paul McCusker 5 - struggled yesterday, effort is never in doubt but poor passing and decision making maybe a general reflection of the group's mental fatigue at this stage as much as anything. still adjusting to wing back position also.
Declan McCusker 6 - drove forward well on a couple of occasions and is a real leader round the half back line but again a bit of tiredness maybe contributed to some poor passing and decisions on the ball
Kane Connor 6 - probably looked one of the fresher of the group yesterday, Still needs to be doing more to push into the 1st 15 come the league in my opinion.

Eoin McManus 5 - Struggled at midfield and will want to forget his time in possession. Still a good talent but is'nt a cub anymore and needs to start taking his opportunities.
Ryan Jones 5 - Another who looks very heavy legged at present, beaten for sharpness by Emmett Bradley (of similar build) on a no. of occasions. Played one or two good balls inside to Conall but we'll need alot more from him this year (maybe needs rested to re charge the batteries)

Ryan Lyons 5 - Another who'll want to put yesterdays performance behind him. never shy's away from wanting the ball but was poor in possession again and shooting was abysmal.
Ruairi Corrigan 5 - never got to grips with the game. 11 doesn't suit him unless he is going to drop around the midfield to pick up breaking ball which he didn't seem to do either yesterday.
Aidan Breen 8 - slightly slow to come into the game but when he did he was terrific. Busting a gut as always, getting and setting up scores and generally putting in a very good shift.

Daniel Teague 5 - thought he was harshly taken off before half time but was told after he had been sick in the build up so maybe shouldn't have played at all. was getting on a bit of ball out the field when withdrawn.
Conall Jones 7 - Finished a quiet 1st half with a flurry of points which he showed well for. Good target man second half as well, needs to keep building on his club form with the county in 2018. Definitely should not be our distance free taker!
Conor McGee 5 - Just a couple of years too soon for him In my opinion. Despite this its good to see these young lads being involved in the set up. Just not game ready yet unfortunately.

Notable subs:

Seamie: Leanest I've ever seen him, credit to him he's obviously been putting work in. Kicked badly yesterday bar the penalty. Delighted to see him back, performances will surely come in time.

Eoin Donnelly: His introduction probably saved the game for us. Won ball and drove forward well from midfield. Still has a habit of taking silly shots and the temptation to run that extra yard too far into contact is still evident, but a much better showing from him yesterday.

* overall Its important not to get carried away with performances or results at this stage. The lads have been training since october and training heavily! we'll have to make our peace with the fact that this will affect team and individual performances on any given day. So I wouldn't be eulogising too much nor writing any player off at this point. Looking forward to Ballyboffey Wednesday night. New management clearly working hard to get their system of play in place and it will take a bit of time.

RedRum (Fermanagh) - Posts: 265 - 08/01/2018 12:04:24    2067317

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Replying To RedRum:  "I think those in attendance yesterday would agree that it may be pointless handing out player ratings (for the first half showing at least), but its important to note that with the quantity and level of training these lads are doing, we'll inevitably get served up some poor showings early on in the year. Hopefully it will all bed itself in for when it matters... anyway I'll give my opinion:

Thomas Treacy 7 - Like Cadden the last day, good distribution and i was impressed with him under the high ball, will need to keep it up to battle for the no.1 jersey this year.

Eamon McHugh 9 - at times looked like the only man in white switched on. Excellent from start to finish, tackled and positioned himself brilliantly throughout, never over complicates getting the ball out the field either. *MOM
Lee Cullen 6 - Done ok, tried to stick to his task, nothing remarkable or of note.
Cian McManus 6 - Also done ok, we'll always get 100% with this lad and he is a plague for corner forwards, could be pivotal with the loss of Mickey Jones as a man marker

Paul McCusker 5 - struggled yesterday, effort is never in doubt but poor passing and decision making maybe a general reflection of the group's mental fatigue at this stage as much as anything. still adjusting to wing back position also.
Declan McCusker 6 - drove forward well on a couple of occasions and is a real leader round the half back line but again a bit of tiredness maybe contributed to some poor passing and decisions on the ball
Kane Connor 6 - probably looked one of the fresher of the group yesterday, Still needs to be doing more to push into the 1st 15 come the league in my opinion.

Eoin McManus 5 - Struggled at midfield and will want to forget his time in possession. Still a good talent but is'nt a cub anymore and needs to start taking his opportunities.
Ryan Jones 5 - Another who looks very heavy legged at present, beaten for sharpness by Emmett Bradley (of similar build) on a no. of occasions. Played one or two good balls inside to Conall but we'll need alot more from him this year (maybe needs rested to re charge the batteries)

Ryan Lyons 5 - Another who'll want to put yesterdays performance behind him. never shy's away from wanting the ball but was poor in possession again and shooting was abysmal.
Ruairi Corrigan 5 - never got to grips with the game. 11 doesn't suit him unless he is going to drop around the midfield to pick up breaking ball which he didn't seem to do either yesterday.
Aidan Breen 8 - slightly slow to come into the game but when he did he was terrific. Busting a gut as always, getting and setting up scores and generally putting in a very good shift.

Daniel Teague 5 - thought he was harshly taken off before half time but was told after he had been sick in the build up so maybe shouldn't have played at all. was getting on a bit of ball out the field when withdrawn.
Conall Jones 7 - Finished a quiet 1st half with a flurry of points which he showed well for. Good target man second half as well, needs to keep building on his club form with the county in 2018. Definitely should not be our distance free taker!
Conor McGee 5 - Just a couple of years too soon for him In my opinion. Despite this its good to see these young lads being involved in the set up. Just not game ready yet unfortunately.

Notable subs:

Seamie: Leanest I've ever seen him, credit to him he's obviously been putting work in. Kicked badly yesterday bar the penalty. Delighted to see him back, performances will surely come in time.

Eoin Donnelly: His introduction probably saved the game for us. Won ball and drove forward well from midfield. Still has a habit of taking silly shots and the temptation to run that extra yard too far into contact is still evident, but a much better showing from him yesterday.

* overall Its important not to get carried away with performances or results at this stage. The lads have been training since october and training heavily! we'll have to make our peace with the fact that this will affect team and individual performances on any given day. So I wouldn't be eulogising too much nor writing any player off at this point. Looking forward to Ballyboffey Wednesday night. New management clearly working hard to get their system of play in place and it will take a bit of time."
Think turning Paul McCcusker into a back is a good idea as he works his socks off, can get up and down the field all day, to pop with an odd score. Is very good at gathering breaking ball in mid field. As a wing half forward did not score enough for me.

I know Rory used all his subs by the end of the game but would have subbed Kane Connor enough he played well, after he received a yellow card there was a couple of occasions where it looked he could have received a 2nd yellow/black card, which would have put us under more pressure of being a man down.

Would have given conall Jones a higher rating if not man of the match in my opinion as he scored, I think 0.6 points. Which was almost half are scores. Not 1st choice free taker though

ERNEDEVIL (Fermanagh) - Posts: 51 - 08/01/2018 18:23:12    2067384

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Great to see the team off to a winning start and great to have Seamie back, arguably the best in the country on his day - think it would be good to move Seamie out to midfield for the Donegal match to see how he gets on. Don't like Rory's style of play though - would like to see more expansive attacking football from us in the league. Promotion and Ulster final not beyond reach this year if we can open up a bit.

Hill_hound (Fermanagh) - Posts: 43 - 10/01/2018 11:03:32    2067625

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Replying To Hill_hound:  "Great to see the team off to a winning start and great to have Seamie back, arguably the best in the country on his day - think it would be good to move Seamie out to midfield for the Donegal match to see how he gets on. Don't like Rory's style of play though - would like to see more expansive attacking football from us in the league. Promotion and Ulster final not beyond reach this year if we can open up a bit."
Last time Fermanagh played true expansive football we got beat by Antrim...

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 10/01/2018 13:11:21    2067643

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Last time Fermanagh played true expansive football we got beat by Antrim..."
We had a lot of inexperience on the panel that year. With the likes of Che Cullen committing this year there is reason to be optimistic in the defenders we have and not pull anyone else back. Its about time we threw off the shackles and stopped playing defensive football that has been absolutely no use to us for the past few years. I can think of 10 or 11 of our players that are near enough division 1 standard so we should not be afraid to open it up. If we can mold seamie into a midfielder or wing half forward (where we are currently weak) we will be a match for most teams.

Hill_hound (Fermanagh) - Posts: 43 - 10/01/2018 15:36:53    2067662

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