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jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 70 - 05/12/2020 19:11:56 2318631 Link 0 |
Careful now.... you'll upset the experts.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 05/12/2020 19:32:41 2318676 Link 1 |
Hmm didn't Donegal put 1-24 on Cavan in the 2019 Ulster final? Cavan scored 12 points this even and 1-13 in the Ulster final not much difference there.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2492 - 05/12/2020 20:01:11 2318720 Link 0 |
And empty heads don't get upset too?
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2492 - 05/12/2020 20:02:11 2318725 Link 0 |
Another fine retort from Barrister Brolly.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 05/12/2020 20:41:17 2318777 Link 0 |
See Paul fisher head of s&c has stepped down after 6 year. Wonder who will get the role now. Any word if rochford staying hopefully he does. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 894 - 05/12/2020 21:32:05 2318834 Link 0 |
I love how people think that strength and conditioning is the silver bullet that separates teams when in fact it is a small percentage of a team's success. ballboy101 (Donegal) - Posts: 163 - 06/12/2020 00:23:59 2318949 Link 0 |
Nothing to do with s & c , more to do with Bonner and Rochford running the sh1te out the players in the week between Armagh and cavan game, in preparation for the dubs... players were out on their feet before ball was thrown in
totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 534 - 06/12/2020 07:18:32 2318981 Link 1 |
If S&C yields only a small percentage why are teams pumping huge money into it? Building state of the art gyms, satilite gyms etc? Why have Tyrone broke the bank to take Peter Donnelly back? Why did we have employ two S&C coaches this year, would one not have been enough?
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 06/12/2020 10:12:05 2319032 Link 0 |
Nobody ran the sh1t out of players more than McGuinness and Fisher in 2012 and it worked then. Don't think its Fishers fault that the players didn't perform on the day against Cavan ,that's more down to the Management team and they should do the decent thing and not let Fisher take the blame.
jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 70 - 06/12/2020 10:25:05 2319038 Link 0 |
Lads if you believe we are going to beat Dublin anytime soon get real.We can give out and rant about certain things but Sam is staying in the capital for the foreseeable future.Also to say we need to do it next year with MM going downhill he has been in decline for a while now.His legendary status ensures his poor performances are glossed over. neutral (None) - Posts: 299 - 06/12/2020 11:49:09 2319080 Link 0 |
I read Paul fisher tweet last night. From the tweet it sounded like he left himself. Don't know the ins ant outs of it. In saying that it's nearly a gimme that there will be changes to back room and squad.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 894 - 06/12/2020 12:00:12 2319091 Link 0 |
I think you're doing McGonagle a disservice he actually was one who had his shooting boots on and got a great score to level it up to add to one in the first half. However your points are spot on. When Dublin got into the same positions as Donegal last night they made the routine scores whereas Donegal did not. That has nothing to do with your weekly spinach intake etc.... the bottom line is that Donegal choked when in the same position for the last 3 years. It is not the fault of one factor or person but a collective one. Blaming S & C and management doesn't change the point that in the clutch moments between goal chances, decision making leading to a goal and taking routine scores Donegal failed. Can crib about missing defensive players and that edge but still only conceded 1-13 which is respectable compared to the 12 points Dublin conceded.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2492 - 06/12/2020 12:34:15 2319102 Link 0 |
My point is that it's not as important as other aspects of success and people are over hyping its importance and laying blame at the hands of an s&c coach. As I said we missed easy scores that day, no one can say that has anything to do with strength and conditioning. That's purely psychological and something that needs to be addressed as we've capitulated several times now when the game is in the melting pot. As for Murphy, I don't think there's many players in Ireland who could do what he's at, trying to play everywhere. If we keep him in the opposition half, we will see a different Murphy. Definitely think he has so much to offer the team that way and I can see this group winning the big one within a few years if they get things right. ballboy101 (Donegal) - Posts: 163 - 06/12/2020 12:41:09 2319108 Link 1 |
This isn't 2012, we had a condensed championship in 2020, we had cavan one week after Armagh, we lost gallen and Thompson because not gruelling running in the week between, we had players who were sluggish because the tank had been emptied on the training ground. This was Bonner's call, no one else's.
totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 534 - 06/12/2020 20:27:46 2319466 Link 1 |
How do you know this to be the case?
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2492 - 06/12/2020 20:53:22 2319487 Link 0 |
I think your wrong, from what I heard both got injured in an in house game. Big difference from being trained hard I may add.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 894 - 06/12/2020 21:23:24 2319510 Link 0 |
Why would you risk in house games the way the Championship was so condensed this year? all they needed was a bit of maintenance and recovery work, why run the hell out of them on heavy ground and play full contact games on the same heavy ground? nuts.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1183 - 07/12/2020 00:14:06 2319584 Link 0 |
Because they were looking beyond Cavan.
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 700 - 07/12/2020 10:00:47 2319638 Link 0 |
I know we all should have moved on from the Ulster final by now. But I couldn't help feeling that we'd have given Dublin more to think about than Cavan the other night. Cavan beat us fair and square on the day but it was apparent from fairly early on in Saturday's game that Dublin would win it at a canter. The problem for us now is we've no idea just how close or how far we're off Dublin. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7163 - 07/12/2020 10:32:56 2319662 Link 0 |