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New Derry Senior Manager

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Who shall be the chosen one to lift the poisoned chalice and attempt to lift our county out of this sad mess ?

Jim McGuiness.
Seamus Downey.
Kieran McKeever.

IssacBall (Derry) - Posts: 51 - 10/08/2019 16:37:18    2223418

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None of those 3 have been mentioned as being in the frame.

RoverTin (Derry) - Posts: 218 - 16/08/2019 11:31:03    2226326

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Rory Gallagher! Please, please - NO. Do we really want to watch the worst football in the country, as dictated by a 'tactical genius' who will drain away any joy left in playing for the county, players being mere implementers of systems. And, all this will come at considerable expense for our county.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 336 - 29/08/2019 18:57:17    2230513

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Just one question ,what happened in Fermanagh , left under a bit of a cloud.

smiler (Fermanagh) - Posts: 86 - 03/09/2019 17:45:25    2232489

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Just saw the news. We got the man whom Fermanagh got rid of and Monaghan didn't want, with the great Enda Muldoon as PR cover. The heart and beauty with which Enda played ball will certainly not be allowed any more. We now have a 'leader' in charge, a 'professional', a 'modern' coach - lucky us! Damian McErlain may have made mistakes at times but he is a good coach and a good man and was learning and progressing steadily with a bunch of good young footballers who trusted and liked him. To panic and have such lack of self-belief as to appoint a 'celebrity' manager to succeed him is a real low-point for Derry football, especially as we seem to be his last and only option in the intercounty manager marketplace at present.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 336 - 04/09/2019 00:12:55    2232598

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Derry football, I really am sorry for your troubles, a very sad day.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1749 - 05/09/2019 00:03:03    2232908

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Replying To doiregael2:  "Just saw the news. We got the man whom Fermanagh got rid of and Monaghan didn't want, with the great Enda Muldoon as PR cover. The heart and beauty with which Enda played ball will certainly not be allowed any more. We now have a 'leader' in charge, a 'professional', a 'modern' coach - lucky us! Damian McErlain may have made mistakes at times but he is a good coach and a good man and was learning and progressing steadily with a bunch of good young footballers who trusted and liked him. To panic and have such lack of self-belief as to appoint a 'celebrity' manager to succeed him is a real low-point for Derry football, especially as we seem to be his last and only option in the intercounty manager marketplace at present."
Such a load of tosh. McErlean brought us to Division Four 4, inept is word that springs to mind when I think of him as a senior county manager. Did well with the underage but that's his limit. Derry need a serious manager and Gallagher falls into this bracket. Our defence has been v poor structurally and a few years under Gallagher will develop this under standing. It will be another 2/3 years before our young players are at the age to push at intercounty and this step up in professional approach is whats needed.

MickeyMouse (Derry) - Posts: 174 - 09/09/2019 10:05:57    2233757

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Replying To MickeyMouse:  "Such a load of tosh. McErlean brought us to Division Four 4, inept is word that springs to mind when I think of him as a senior county manager. Did well with the underage but that's his limit. Derry need a serious manager and Gallagher falls into this bracket. Our defence has been v poor structurally and a few years under Gallagher will develop this under standing. It will be another 2/3 years before our young players are at the age to push at intercounty and this step up in professional approach is whats needed."
Professional approach!!!

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 509 - 09/09/2019 17:38:22    2233915

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We wouldn't have been in Division 4 (or even Division 3) if the Slaughtneil men hadn't been unavailable for the vast majority of those two campaigns. Admittedly, the defence was very leaky for those two relegation years but there were an awful lot of very young backs playing without the McKaigues and Rogers to help bed them into senior intercounty football. This year, the defence performed well throughout the league and in the championship. The biggest problem as I saw it was an inability to secure possession off our own kick-outs if forced to go anyway long with them - hence we were penned into our own half when a limited enough but physically strong Laois team pushed up in the second half. This has been a problem for a number of years with Derry. With Fergal Doherty and Patsy Bradley gone we lack presence around the middle of the park and revert all the time to short kick-outs and trying to run everything the length of the park. I really don't believe there was an awful lot wrong with Derry's defending this year and I do believe that a number of those younger players have gained experience and are getting stronger year by year. There are plenty of skilful, improving footballers on the Derry panel.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 336 - 09/09/2019 21:32:43    2233974

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Gallagher had his day as a number 2, 7 years ago. The theory of him being the real genius, not Jimmy McGuiness, is well busted at this stage - ask anyone in Fermanagh or Donegal.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 336 - 10/09/2019 01:06:10    2234013

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Replying To doiregael2:  "Gallagher had his day as a number 2, 7 years ago. The theory of him being the real genius, not Jimmy McGuiness, is well busted at this stage - ask anyone in Fermanagh or Donegal."
First time I've heard that theory tbh. McGuinness was the tactician, Gallagher the coach. Gallagher took a very limited Fermanagh team to an Ulster Final and has been involved in 6 out of the last 8 Ulster Finals.

If you believed our County Board at the last club meeting, they contacted the Fermanagh Co Board who said they were very keen to keep Gallagher on. It was Gallagher's decision to leave.

For what it's worth, I wasn't keen on Gallagher, but having spoken to some players, I'm warming to the idea.

Seamy_Hendrix (Derry) - Posts: 47 - 11/09/2019 11:08:57    2234350

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Replying To Seamy_Hendrix:  "First time I've heard that theory tbh. McGuinness was the tactician, Gallagher the coach. Gallagher took a very limited Fermanagh team to an Ulster Final and has been involved in 6 out of the last 8 Ulster Finals.

If you believed our County Board at the last club meeting, they contacted the Fermanagh Co Board who said they were very keen to keep Gallagher on. It was Gallagher's decision to leave.

For what it's worth, I wasn't keen on Gallagher, but having spoken to some players, I'm warming to the idea."
McGuinness was the tactician and the coach. In 2013 Rory tried to undermine mcGuinness. He got rid of him.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 509 - 12/09/2019 22:11:49    2234892

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Replying To ryan:  "McGuinness was the tactician and the coach. In 2013 Rory tried to undermine mcGuinness. He got rid of him."
So what was Gallagher's role?

Seamy_Hendrix (Derry) - Posts: 47 - 13/09/2019 10:05:13    2234952

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Are ye all happy with Rory now?

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 728 - 16/06/2021 00:19:00    2351324

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RG came to Derry under a cloud, he has certainly done all he can this year so far. When was the last time Derry won 5 games in a row , and all quite convincingly, with high scores.
So, so far so Good, but the winner of Down and Donegal will test us.

Derryman2 (Derry) - Posts: 2 - 21/06/2021 23:56:14    2352516

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Heard Rory Gallagher has taken on a coaching role with a club team in Dublin. He can't be expecting a long summer with Derry when he has placed some of his eggs in another basket already.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 509 - 03/07/2021 00:22:19    2355501

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Pretty obvious from my previous comments on this forum that I was enormously sceptical about Rory Gallagher as Derry manager. Attending league matches before the covid outbreak in 2020 I saw nothing to change my mind; Derry were dull, defensive, mediocre, scraping past bad teams before they lost the game that counted against a similarly negative, inhibited Down team coached in similar style by Paddy Tally. They were close enough to Armagh in the championship, which seemed encouraging, but then Armagh were well beaten by Donegal.
This year, however, Derry have been excellent, albeit it's really hard to know what's happening when you're only watching on TV. Conor Glass, of course, would be an addition to any team in Ireland, he's a superstar, just a tremendous footballer, but Derry this year look more focused, better conditioned and more organised than they have been in a very long time. Gareth McKinless has been less a revelation than what everyone in Derry knew he was capable of; he's a quality footballler. Shane McGuigan is class.
Gallagher has sifted and sorted and has got the best players in Derry on the park, committed to the cause and in proper physical condition. He has identified his best team this year and has been very consistent in his selections. His self confidence and ambition is maybe something that Derry needed; he consistently states that Derry are aiming to be up there amongst the best in the country.
Derry are looking serious again. Donegal are a step up, of course, one of the best few teams in Ireland but sure, why not? Whatever happens against Donegal (and I'm fairly hopeful), with the talent that Derry have coming through we can be back in the conversation. Gallagher is doing a really good job just now; I don't care why, just want Derry to be as good as they can be.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 336 - 11/07/2021 01:16:03    2358460

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Talking to a work colleague recently, a smart guy who loves his football and played for years at a very good level, who worked with Rory Gallagher, he said to me that Gallagher is as good as a coach as there is in Ireland but he might just be learning now how to be a manager.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 336 - 11/07/2021 01:38:13    2358465

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Some performance. Great team. You'll be Ulster champions in a few years.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 728 - 12/07/2021 01:43:01    2358827

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Replying To doiregael2:  "Talking to a work colleague recently, a smart guy who loves his football and played for years at a very good level, who worked with Rory Gallagher, he said to me that Gallagher is as good as a coach as there is in Ireland but he might just be learning now how to be a manager."
I heard back after 2012 from people in the Kilcar and Killybegs region that Rory Gallagher was the real brains behind the 2012 All Ireland title, but this was later proven to be unfounded.

In my opinion he can definitely set up a team to make them competitive, to challenge top teams. But usually his teams perform super well in the League and start of Championship, but show their hand early on, and the top teams can then size them up by later in Championship.

His tenure with Derry is different from his time in Donegal, where he was a divisive figure among both fans and players, and hopefully he will grow as a manager and finally bring Derry football back to the top.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 666 - 12/07/2021 16:59:35    2359103

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