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Senior Champ'ship

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See official rule below...
2 teams - head to head, if draw on head to head then scoring difference is used
More than 2 teams - scoring difference.

Rule 6.20 Official Guide Part 1 2014
(c) Except where provided for otherwise in County
Bye-Law or in Competition Regulation, when
Teams finish with equal points for Qualification
for the Concluding Stages, or for Promotion
or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the
following means and in the order specified:
(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the
outcome of the meeting of the two Teams
in the previous game in the Competition;
(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total
Scores Against from total Scores For);
(iii) Highest Total Score For;
(iv) A Play-Off.[/I]

JuniorB (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 11/08/2014 09:02:19    1634701


Garrycastle are NOT out of the Championship, if they defeat Kinnegad in last game they go onto 6 pts
losers of St Malachys Tyrellspass would be on 6pts, no team can be elimanated from championship on
head to head or score difference as is written into Westmeath Planning report for all competitions
at the start of year, this IS FACT

GCCABU (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 11/08/2014 09:09:17    1634704


so it would be a playoff then?

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1762 - 11/08/2014 09:43:18    1634731


This would give Garrycastle a fairly realistic chance of still qualifying
Although a draw between Tyrrellspass and Malachys would see them both through.
What happens in the case of 3 teams level on points? This could happen in Intermediate Section B?

ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 103 - 11/08/2014 09:54:44    1634738


it would be horrible to knock a team out on score difference. head to head is acceptable but a play off system is probably the fairest way

sharpshooter23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 187 - 11/08/2014 15:57:37    1635074


Clarification from Fixtures Secretary in Cusack Pk

As per the agreed football planning report: For the purpose of qualification rule 6.23 will be used to determine placings, however, if teams 3 & 4 following the application of the above rule finish on equal points, the committee reccomends playoff's to be used to determine the outcome. No team will be eliminated from the competitions based on the head to head result or scoring difference.

Should playoffs be required to clarify the final places in the qualifying stages of the football championships they will take place on Tuesday 2nd of September, with the qtr finals scheduled for the 6/7th of September

JuniorB (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 12/08/2014 08:28:01    1635374


The relegation play off places are not affected by the county bye laws and are decided as per rule 6.22
In Section A if Castledaly beat The Downs and Maryland lose to St Lomans they will both be on 2 points.
Maryland defeated Castledaly in the head to head so Castledaly will go into the Relegation Play off whether they win or lose their next match

In Section B if Athlone and Bunbrosna game ends in a draw it will go to scoring difference.
Athlone are currently -25 and Bunbrosna are currently -34.
So if a draw Bunbrosna go into the Relegation Play off.

JuniorB (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 12/08/2014 10:51:19    1635439


Best wishes and speedy recovery to kieran Gavin from mullingar shamrocks who requires surgery on a torn Achilles.

winnerofsam (USA) - Posts: 40 - 12/08/2014 13:03:00    1635541


Garrycastle a hefty 28/1. If they can beat KInnegad, im sure odds will be slashed, especially if Dessie is back playing. Still very hard to look past Lomans tho.

bookiesterror (Westmeath) - Posts: 19 - 12/08/2014 14:38:22    1635640


They might as well not play anymore games in this championship as lomans are so far ahead of the field. Only T-Pass will get within 10 pts of them.

Redslayer (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 12/08/2014 15:25:00    1635693


Red I think you may be right. I would have said that Malacys were as fit and as fast as them and they might give them a game but now I seen this week that the hurling and football has caught up on them as they seemed to be drained at the weekend so that's the end of them as they get no break at all to recover. Tyrellspass are only team I feel will compete with them now. Still anything can happen on the Day we all seen it before. Shamrocks seem dead in the water though and I can't see Garrycastle come out no matter how they can mathematically because the loosers of Malachys v tyrellspass will beat Garrycastle anyway if it was a playoff.
A lot of poor senior teams and relatively good intermediate teams. Is it time for 2 up 2 down to see can we get better senior teams. Think 2 finalists in inter should come up and bottom of each group senior should go down as well.
Just a suggestion does anyone agree

Djkray (Dublin) - Posts: 152 - 12/08/2014 16:37:14    1635783


Ridiculous comment about weak senior teams vs strong intermediate teams. Castledaly are in the relegation play-off this year and I don't think any intermediate team would get within 6 points of them. Also Athlone could possibly be in it and again I don't think they would be beat by any of those intermediate sides. Malachys came down from senior 2 years ago and were back up out of intermediate at a canter last year. If one of the above mentioned teams do go down this year, it will be a repeat of the Malachys situation last year.

COUNTYCHAMPS_XI (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 13/08/2014 09:13:06    1636078


County Champs I have to agree with Djkray on Castledaly, and also Bun, who I think will start to struggle soon as they are in trouble underage due to numbere so if either went down would find it difficult to get back up as Intermediate is notoriously competitive. Although if Athlone went down, I'd say they would come back up easily. And Malachy's won after a replay last year, hardly a canter.

upyabhoy (Westmeath) - Posts: 22 - 13/08/2014 15:17:09    1636403


and malachys bet by ballinacarigy and shandonagh in group stages aswell, lomans or tpass will win it no other team will come close I reckon

peat_burns (Westmeath) - Posts: 94 - 13/08/2014 17:34:04    1636519


Interesting weekend ahead lads, any tips

footiemad (Westmeath) - Posts: 733 - 20/08/2014 14:58:36    1639396


athlone v castledaly relegation play off now

sharpshooter23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 187 - 23/08/2014 15:12:34    1640854


Tpass should win this evening setting up a SF of Lomans vs Tpass/Shams. Other CK v kil/mals.
Or can an injury hit GCastle throw a spanner in the works?
Cdaly vs Athlone for inter. Athlone to win.

Redslayer (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 24/08/2014 10:17:12    1641015


Went to c park this evening tubberclaires sideline almost blew it
v shandonagh by making a treble substitution at halfway into 2nd half
thinking they were home far too early almost cost them. Tpass easily dissposed of
malachys in the senior game it was over as a contest at halftime
Way too many passengers on the field for malachys b a lot of retirments
at years end they have serious youth coming true looking at the subs.

uisneach (Westmeath) - Posts: 156 - 24/08/2014 21:09:59    1641421


What are the final positions now taking into account score diff head to head and playoffs.who plays who in the knockout

gti (Westmeath) - Posts: 194 - 24/08/2014 21:44:10    1641441


tyrrellspass blundered badly by not beating kinnegad . since that game they are playing great football
and might i add are doing so without martin flanagan . we will beat shams in the quarter finals and then
we face a semi final v the champions st lomans . i think that garrycastle will beat malachys and will also
beat both killucan and kinnegad to reach the final . im going for a tyrrellspass v garrycastle final

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1234 - 25/08/2014 15:20:19    1641780