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All Ireland Final 2023 - Dublin V Kerry

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I'm living in an area where up to 5/6 years ago the place would be festooned with flags and bunting and jerseys. Local club doesn't even seem to have bothered so far this time. Makes you realise how little people identify with the city any more. the only ones really interested are the people who will be there on Sunday. A pretty small proportion of a million people."
The fact is Barney that Dublin winning an All Ireland is not a big deal for the vast majority of people living in the capital , particlarly amoung younger people. That's not becuase they are complacent or so used to Dublin winning; they are simply not interested.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2090 - 25/07/2023 16:46:00    2496869

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Replying To ConnollyDub:  "Connolly put his hand on the linesman's shoulder. That was it. And poor owl Pat Spillane was traumatized at the "assault" he just witnessed god love him. The same Pat that played in Dublin kerry games in the 70s were both teams literally tried to take each others heads off!!

If you don't think Pat's antics on the Sunday game had a direct effect on how the gaa dealt with it then you're deluded. It was a witch-hunt after that which ultimately got him banned for the rest of the season. It's widely known that the whole saga surrounding that incident was ultimately the reason that led Connolly to step away from the inter county scene and go play ball in the states. He made a cameo type comeback for the final in 2019 but realistically that was last we properly seen of Connolly.
Such a shame for one of the most talented players to play the game."
Ahh poor ould Pet hasn't slept a wink since. People seem to forget that TSG game had a huge influence - there were several incidents that they highlighted that were subsequently brought before the CCCC as a direct consequence .

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2090 - 25/07/2023 16:49:56    2496871

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I'm living in an area where up to 5/6 years ago the place would be festooned with flags and bunting and jerseys. Local club doesn't even seem to have bothered so far this time. Makes you realise how little people identify with the city any more. the only ones really interested are the people who will be there on Sunday. A pretty small proportion of a million people."
There's 1.4m live there so the number of ye going to home games was always a small proportion

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2558 - 25/07/2023 16:55:44    2496875

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I agree it was a foul and I agree it was cynical.
But it wasn't a black card offence.

Connolly even said in a subsequent interview that Keegan pulled him back, not down."
I'm sure Connolly has said loads of things in interviews but you agree that it was a foul and cynical. Well both players went to ground with Lee being the offender, could have gotten away without a card but don't think he could bitch too much with the black card sanction either.
As I said, not a fan of the black, too many of them are questionable.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 1183 - 25/07/2023 17:12:30    2496883

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I'm living in an area where up to 5/6 years ago the place would be festooned with flags and bunting and jerseys. Local club doesn't even seem to have bothered so far this time. Makes you realise how little people identify with the city any more. the only ones really interested are the people who will be there on Sunday. A pretty small proportion of a million people."
Sounds unusual for a club not joining in but after dominating for so long, the All Ireland novelty is probably gone and it just doesn't have the same excitement as it once did. I'm sure if the Dubs went on a ten year barren spell the interest would be huge again. And the other side of it is like any big city, Dublin is probably a victim of its own success. You then go to places like Charlestown in the west of Ireland where there will be huge colour and excitement in an All Ireland build up but they can't hold on to their young people and have been crippled by emigration for the past 100 years.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 25/07/2023 17:25:38    2496889

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Replying To anotheralias:  "1.458 million.
I suppose 1 million is a close approximation . Rounded down slightly by about the total population of Connacht."
A million Dubs as in born here. Not even that many.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4550 - 25/07/2023 17:26:04    2496890

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In my area there are more tricolours and bunting on show for the ladies' team than blue and navy. Yet travel down the country and you're immediately struck by the show of county colours, especially if its involved in the latter ends of a provincial or All_Ireland championship

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2090 - 25/07/2023 19:09:05    2496920

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Another Kerry Dublin final

30 all Irelands and 62 provincial titles for 1,
38 all Irelands and 84 provincial titles for the other

Only th 17th final between them out of 32 matches

Does any neutral actually care who wins really?

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 2045 - 25/07/2023 20:17:45    2496931

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Replying To Cbar:  ""It's always a good day to see Kerry beat"

There's an awful lot of garbage written on this forum (by myself included) but finally a statement I 200% agree with!"
Ha ha we will see what happens.

Dont mind being beaten by the Dubs at all though if it does happen. As long as Mayo are bate out the gate beforehand I am happy.

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 674 - 25/07/2023 21:01:40    2496937

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Glad you are relaxed about it. I would hate if you were under too much pressure. I'm sure the players on both sides feel the same pressure as any other year , but we are all delighted for you."
Thanks for the good wishes, enjoy the break. ;)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4541 - 25/07/2023 22:30:17    2496942

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Replying To realdub:  "I'll be honest and say this is the most meaningful one for me personally since 2011."
Really pal, how come?

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4541 - 25/07/2023 22:31:37    2496943

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For those in the UK, just seen the Final is being shown live on BBC2 (not just in NI), its been a few years since that's been the case.

BaileUíFhiacháin (UK) - Posts: 1 - 26/07/2023 09:19:46    2496964

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Another Kerry Dublin final

30 all Irelands and 62 provincial titles for 1,
38 all Irelands and 84 provincial titles for the other

Only th 17th final between them out of 32 matches

Does any neutral actually care who wins really?"
Yet, there will be nealy 900k watching it on the tele and not all of then will be from Kerry and Dublin. So, assuming your question wasn't rhetorical, I'll let you answer it yourself.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2090 - 26/07/2023 10:45:47    2496992

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Replying To avonali:  "Yet, there will be nealy 900k watching it on the tele and not all of then will be from Kerry and Dublin. So, assuming your question wasn't rhetorical, I'll let you answer it yourself."
I would love to see new teams in the final, but we have Dublin v Kerry, the best two sides, so I will tune in. Think the Dubs might take Sam.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 26/07/2023 12:32:49    2497041

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I look at it like this.

Kerry are very reliant on one player. If he has an off day that's it.

Kerry got 2 dubious frees against Derry. If they had not got them they were toast.

Dublin look a bit more structured to me.

I am going to say Dublin by a few points.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 3045 - 26/07/2023 12:38:18    2497044

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Really pal, how come?"
I agree with realdub.
This one really matters for a number of reasons.

Several Dublin players James Mac, Mick Fitz etc will have 9 All_irelands which elevates them beyond the status of greats like Spillane etc. Dublin players will have achieved the ultimate accolade

Some of these Dublin greats may well retire after this and this will be a fabulous way to bookend their remarkable careers. They'll go out on a high.

It's against Kerry. And we still over them despite our recent successes against them . Successive Kerry teams inflicted a lot of pain on Dublin and an All_Ireland win against this great footballing county always is very sweet indeed.

Then there are other personal reasons. Like spending many summer holidays in Kerry silently suffering the slagging when Dublin had their ***** regularly handed to them on a plate by successive Kerry teams. :-D. No amount of Dublin victories can ever avenge the humiliation.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2090 - 26/07/2023 12:45:13    2497047

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Replying To sponger:  "I look at it like this.

Kerry are very reliant on one player. If he has an off day that's it.

Kerry got 2 dubious frees against Derry. If they had not got them they were toast.

Dublin look a bit more structured to me.

I am going to say Dublin by a few points."
Derry missed chance their issues Kerry had more when came down to it agree Ilford important but they have other good players who can step it up. I don't see Kerry being toast we see sunday

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1344 - 26/07/2023 13:36:07    2497060

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Replying To sponger:  "I look at it like this.

Kerry are very reliant on one player. If he has an off day that's it.

Kerry got 2 dubious frees against Derry. If they had not got them they were toast.

Dublin look a bit more structured to me.

I am going to say Dublin by a few points."
One free was dubious derry had chances but Kerry had bit more experience yes Clifford most important player but they have other players who can stand up so not agreeing fully with this statement

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1344 - 26/07/2023 13:37:25    2497061

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Another Kerry Dublin final

30 all Irelands and 62 provincial titles for 1,
38 all Irelands and 84 provincial titles for the other

Only th 17th final between them out of 32 matches

Does any neutral actually care who wins really?"
You moaning because mayo blew their chances so begrudgery comes out

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1344 - 26/07/2023 13:38:41    2497063

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Thanks for the good wishes, enjoy the break. ;)"
The break from what?

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 1106 - 26/07/2023 14:33:01    2497084

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