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The Kilkenny keeper made no effort re disallowed goal, can't be claimed as a clear goal when the opposition stop playing. Cusack was right last night, Clare's tactics, wides, fouls and mistakes far bigger reasons for defeat, TJ scored 10 frees, fouling against Kilkenny is ludicrous when he's sure to score 95%, likewise the wides tally. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2282 - 10/07/2023 11:03:24 2493519 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Know nothing about hurling but never a good outcome when you have a clear goal disallowed and you lose by 3." Whistle had gone well before the ball was hit into the net while play was stopped. So there was no "goal" scored to be disallowed. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2558 - 10/07/2023 11:05:09 2493520 Link
From a Galway perspective that second half was just shocking, tactically inept, no fight no hunger, and the Galway malaise of going missing during games came to the fore yet again. Now in saying that Limerick were much the superior team, and I doubt had Galway played for the full 70+ minutes that they would have beaten them, but hey God loves a trier. You look at Kilkenny in the final, a team that Galway gifted three goals to in the Leinster Final and should have beaten, and yet here they are in the final again with every chance of winning due to their inimitable spirt, their character, their never say die attitude plus of course some top class hurlers. Very worrying times for Galway, but hats off to Kilkenny and I never thought I'd see the day when I'd say this, but I will most definitely be shouting for them in the final. gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 186 - 10/07/2023 11:14:21 2493523 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Clare needed to empty the tank last year to beat Wexford in Thurles. And needed that bit of luck with key Wexford men getting injured." After the munster final last year, Clare were brutal. Wexford should have had the game wrapped up before lads got injured. Kilkenny not so forgiving. Surprised a hurling man thought Clare needed to empty the tank.. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1479 - 10/07/2023 11:15:02 2493524 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Know nothing about hurling but never a good outcome when you have a clear goal disallowed and you lose by 3." Tommy Walsh explained I well I thought on off the ball after the match. There was a foul on duggan and the ref correctly played an advantage. The advantage rule is if the shot goes over the bar a point is given but if it drops short it's deemed a 50/50 ball and if the opposition retain possession the free is then given straight away. The loss of possession by lawlor was after the ref was giving duggan the original free. If the shot dropping short was initially collected by a clare man then the ref has a judgement call to make if a tap over free is better than the possession gained. Once lawlor put his hand on the ball then the advantage is over. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 10/07/2023 11:47:31 2493531 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Know nothing about hurling but never a good outcome when you have a clear goal disallowed and you lose by 3." The ref blew the whistle when he thought advantage hadn't accrued. He wasn't to know Lawlor would drop the ball a split second later. What did you want him to do at that point, un-blow the whistle?! ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1257 - 10/07/2023 12:04:50 2493534 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Do Clare play better in munster or did they just meet better opposition?" Well they clearly do against Limerick, who have been the best team in the country for the past number of years. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2449 - 10/07/2023 12:07:08 2493535 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Tipp lost to Kerry last year." In what? They aren't in the same divisions in either league or championship. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 871 - 10/07/2023 12:14:37 2493538 Link
Replying To clooney: "I suppose you summed it up fairly well Clare management at fault for sweeper we haven't played it before under BL. The stupid mix up for the KK goal Clare were winning puckouts by Peter Duggan no need to go short. Clare also has two other great chances apart from the disallowed goal Mark Rodgers in first half when midfielder got a hurley to it and and unrreal Eoin Murphy save from P Dugga. Also Tony Kelly playing such a withdrawn role possible trying to avoid the man marker but KK always stay in the fight so probably just about deserved it" Lohan said after the match they played the sweeper because they didn't want to be out of the game at half time, and it "worked" because they were "only" 5 points down at the break. That screamed to me a management team that was overly fixated on what happened last year. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1257 - 10/07/2023 12:15:55 2493539 Link
For the Clare goal Shane o Donnell pushed tommy Walsh out of his way. Have another look. Very clear to c. Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 182 - 10/07/2023 12:17:04 2493540 Link
Replying To Ryanteam: "I wonder about Shane O' Donnell's goal. He clearly pushed defender off him, almost a rugby style hand off, prior to taking his shot. I guess referee didn't catch it. Game to remember for that superlative save by Eoin Murphy." Oh for sure Ryan team. Eoin Murphy s save was just out of this world. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4027 - 10/07/2023 12:20:31 2493541 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Gutted to exit the championship at this stage again but proud of this team they have given us great days this year but we again failed to get over the line. The real disappointment yesterday was some of the overall poor decision making we made. Passing was not up to scratch, it was aimless at times with better options ignored and you cannot give away the goal we gave up yesterday and expect to win any semi final. The sweeper was obviously a very poor decision. I cant get my head around it. Shane O Donnell solidified his claim for back to back All Stars yesterday, I thought he was absolutely sublime. Despite all the negatives yesterday we had our chances to win it and like the Munster final our accuracy is or lack thereof is killing us." Agreed, LRH. Clare have a lot to build on, and if they can cut down on basic errors they will take beating. Shane O'Donnell is an absolute joy to watch and is a certain All-Star. In fact he should be a nominee for hurler of the year but with Clare not in the final he's unlikely to win the award outright - Aaron Gillane would surely be favourite at this stage but a lot can hinge on the final. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 620 - 10/07/2023 12:52:19 2493553 Link
Replying To Newyorkkat: "For the Clare goal Shane o Donnell pushed tommy Walsh out of his way. Have another look. Very clear to c." He did, but almost any forward bearing down on goal tries to push a defender out of the way, if he's in his path. Walsh's problem was he went flying. If we were to blow for every push in a game, there would be no game left. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2449 - 10/07/2023 13:11:28 2493558 Link
Replying To CARPS: "In what? They aren't in the same divisions in either league or championship." Munster hurling League Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16647 - 10/07/2023 13:27:11 2493564 Link
Replying To Ban: "After the munster final last year, Clare were brutal. Wexford should have had the game wrapped up before lads got injured. Kilkenny not so forgiving. Surprised a hurling man thought Clare needed to empty the tank.." They put a huge effort in to the last 10 or 15 minutes of play in that QF. If they didn't they wouldn't have won. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16647 - 10/07/2023 13:28:35 2493565 Link
Replying To Newyorkkat: "For the Clare goal Shane o Donnell pushed tommy Walsh out of his way. Have another look. Very clear to c." Do you think that should have been a free out to KK? I am surprised he didnt give it to ye to be honest given what else he gave ye. But seriously, if you think that SOD fending off a defender like that is a free out the game is dead. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 10/07/2023 13:50:50 2493572 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Go on the stripey men. Kock a bit of arrogance out of some..." Amen brother. I saw enough in Limerick a fortnight ago to decide who I wanted to win it. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1447 - 10/07/2023 14:28:55 2493585 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Tommy Walsh explained I well I thought on off the ball after the match. There was a foul on duggan and the ref correctly played an advantage. The advantage rule is if the shot goes over the bar a point is given but if it drops short it's deemed a 50/50 ball and if the opposition retain possession the free is then given straight away. The loss of possession by lawlor was after the ref was giving duggan the original free. If the shot dropping short was initially collected by a clare man then the ref has a judgement call to make if a tap over free is better than the possession gained. Once lawlor put his hand on the ball then the advantage is over." If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref: "When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team. He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued." He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 10/07/2023 14:37:41 2493587 Link
Replying To ballydalane: "Lohan said after the match they played the sweeper because they didn't want to be out of the game at half time, and it "worked" because they were "only" 5 points down at the break. That screamed to me a management team that was overly fixated on what happened last year." The only explanation for what Lohan did was because he was spooked by what happened last year. If he had used the tactics they employed against the best team in Ireland; my guess is that they would be in the final but Kilkenny haven't achieved what they have in their history for no reason. They took full advantage of what Clare offered them and grab it with both hands. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2117 - 10/07/2023 14:46:31 2493591 Link
Best to Limerick in the final, fully deserved. 4 in a row is really special. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1759 - 10/07/2023 14:49:10 2493592 Link