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Replying To TomWex: "Kilkenny do not loose all irelands to the same opposition 2 years in a row... It just doesn't happen!!" There is always a first time. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4518 - 09/07/2023 19:52:14 2493423 Link
No point in bringing up all this s…e about who is the better province..let's enjoy the next 2 weeks..kk are always going to be involved in later stages it's just built into their mentality..they have a gem in Eoin coady and in all fairness Tj is flying,his work rate.in limerick the majority of us are really enjoying the past few years,we also know it won't last forever so we need to make the most of these days..on ref today I thought kk got some soft frees,but Clare were probably lucky to finish with 15..the performance from o donnell and duggan today were very good and only for a miraculous save from Murphy extra time was happening..not sure about how Clare lined up in first half cos they had kk rattled when they went at them in 2nd half..on Galway yesterday thank some players need to look at themselves,they just didn't fight enough in 2nd half,not sure is it all down to Henry..looking forward to next 2 weeks and hopefully a great final.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2575 - 09/07/2023 19:52:34 2493424 Link
Replying To CARPS: "There's a lot of nonsense talk here about Munster vs Leinster. The reality is that "serious" hurling (ie. the top 15 counties - from Liam McCarthy and Joe McDonagh) is divided into three tiers. Tier One: Kilkenny, Galway, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary, Cork Tier Two: Dublin, Wexford, Waterford Tier Three: Carlow, Antrim, Kerry, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath. Inside the tiers, any team can beat another. Any of tier two can beat a Tier One team on a given day. Tier Three teams cannot beat Tier One teams. However, Tier Three teams can beat Tier Two teams, on a given day. ie. Westmeath could beat Wexford, but they would not beat Kilkenny. Or Dublin could lose to Carlow, but they could also beat Galway. What the GAA should be trying to do is move more Tier Three teams into Tier Two, and expand Tier One. Not to mention getting the likes of Kildare, Meath and Down into Tier Three." Tipperary have 2 games out 10 in last 2 years, one being a facile win over Offaly. Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 259 - 09/07/2023 20:02:55 2493427 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles" How, and in what way, would the game have been different if the game had been played in Thurles?" Clare play better in Munster than in Croke park. What a cock up for the Kilkenny goal. Clare had all the momentum and they go and do that. Shane O'Donnell was outstanding. Such an intelligent player. I had to check that Tony Kelly was still on the field in the second half. Clare have genuine grievances over the referee's performance but when the game was in the balance in the second half, Clare found a way to lose it and Kilkenny found a way to win it. Full credit to Kilkenny for that. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2545 - 09/07/2023 20:06:32 2493428 Link
Replying To Jedobi: "Tipperary have 2 games out 10 in last 2 years, one being a facile win over Offaly." They are a kunster team after all.. so they're great.. must be tier one TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 09/07/2023 20:12:36 2493429 Link
Replying To CARPS: "There's a lot of nonsense talk here about Munster vs Leinster. The reality is that "serious" hurling (ie. the top 15 counties - from Liam McCarthy and Joe McDonagh) is divided into three tiers. Tier One: Kilkenny, Galway, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary, Cork Tier Two: Dublin, Wexford, Waterford Tier Three: Carlow, Antrim, Kerry, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath. Inside the tiers, any team can beat another. Any of tier two can beat a Tier One team on a given day. Tier Three teams cannot beat Tier One teams. However, Tier Three teams can beat Tier Two teams, on a given day. ie. Westmeath could beat Wexford, but they would not beat Kilkenny. Or Dublin could lose to Carlow, but they could also beat Galway. What the GAA should be trying to do is move more Tier Three teams into Tier Two, and expand Tier One. Not to mention getting the likes of Kildare, Meath and Down into Tier Three." Great post CARPS - Only change I'd make would be Waterford in Tier 1 given a fair wind and prob Antrim in Tier given their results this year I think they are ahead of your Tier 3 teams. I agree that the teams just below your Tier 3 need a bit of extra help in terms of investment coaching etc as they are not far off the next level. HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 67 - 09/07/2023 20:40:41 2493436 Link
I feel sorry for Clare again this year but they complain so much to the ref over every little thing and always lose their cool when calm heads are needed. How many times today was Tony Kelly or Peter Duggan and Brian Lohan completely outraged at the ref. I never thought I'd cheer for Kilkenny as a Wexford man but you have to respect their work rate and doggedness. Clares golden generation have won very little but if they put the same energy into a game as Kilkenny and stop expending energy being constantly outraged they would win more They have great talented players but need to realise that their habit of getting worked up is playing into the opposition hands. Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 09/07/2023 21:14:21 2493440 Link
Replying To endgame: "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match." Leinster has lots to offer Galway were well beaten yesterday by a team who have dominated Munster for half a decade but were far superior to their third best team.So Wexford lost to Westmeath all that proves how competitive Leinster is.Westmeath will be even better when Southern Gaels use all of Athlone. jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1756 - 09/07/2023 21:19:59 2493442 Link
Watching the AIHSF Limerick v Galway again can't believe how biased Brendan Cummins against Limerick. Any frees they got were somehow their own fault and they were playing for them. No comment when it was a Galway free. At least you would expect these pundits should be impartial. aloneitstands (Limerick) - Posts: 79 - 09/07/2023 21:20:56 2493444 Link
Replying To CARPS: "There's a lot of nonsense talk here about Munster vs Leinster. The reality is that "serious" hurling (ie. the top 15 counties - from Liam McCarthy and Joe McDonagh) is divided into three tiers. Tier One: Kilkenny, Galway, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary, Cork Tier Two: Dublin, Wexford, Waterford Tier Three: Carlow, Antrim, Kerry, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath. Inside the tiers, any team can beat another. Any of tier two can beat a Tier One team on a given day. Tier Three teams cannot beat Tier One teams. However, Tier Three teams can beat Tier Two teams, on a given day. ie. Westmeath could beat Wexford, but they would not beat Kilkenny. Or Dublin could lose to Carlow, but they could also beat Galway. What the GAA should be trying to do is move more Tier Three teams into Tier Two, and expand Tier One. Not to mention getting the likes of Kildare, Meath and Down into Tier Three." You make that sound simple but its far from that.I am not sure you can tie things down so finely but I agree about the tier 3 counties and what all of us need more than anything is extra coaching and funds no JP's in Westmeath the flying boy the poor imbecile is more interested in land,horses and rugby God Help us!!!! jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1756 - 09/07/2023 21:27:54 2493446 Link
After looking at the 2 semi finals I think it's reasonable to say Limerick are a bit ahead at the top while there is practically nothing between the other 3 semi finalists on any given day. Overall the best 2 teams are where they deserve to be. Refereeing left a bit to be desired on both days while not necessarily influencing the final result. On a side note, in the AI Minor Football Final today, a 16 year old Derry kid soloed up the wing in the final minute to waste time before going into the corner and putting the ball dead for a line ball. Both Galway teams had a chance in the dying seconds ( v KK in Hurling and Armagh in Football) to do do something similar which would have changed their path to the semi finals. Yet we had nobody with the game management skill to do that. conordee (Galway) - Posts: 456 - 09/07/2023 21:44:42 2493452 Link
Replying To Ban: "Super second half. Feel for Clare. Would have been a great final if they made it. They seem to be the only team to have the measure of Limerick" How so , When did they beat them when it mattered?. Nearly winning games doesn't count for much , lots of teams have nearly beaten limerick . I personally think this Clare team is overrated. Teams have played at their best and still can't beat limerick and limerick are a long way off of their best this year and are also missing two key players. Kk may beat limerick in the final , I will be very surprised if they do but it could happen. over35hurler (Cork) - Posts: 36 - 09/07/2023 22:14:31 2493455 Link
Replying To Newyorkkat: "KK players stopped whit whistle. No guarantee it would have been a goal.." The Clare player scored a goal, after the KK no 3 dropped the ball. Perfect goal denied by a refereeing error. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 09/07/2023 22:32:53 2493456 Link
Replying To TomWex: "Kilkenny do not loose all irelands to the same opposition 2 years in a row... It just doesn't happen!!" wrong. 1936 and 1937. KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 09/07/2023 22:36:09 2493457 Link
Replying To KnockaineyAbú: "wrong. 1936 and 1937." Kilkenny lost both of those finals but against different opposition each year. Kilkenny also most recently lost back to back finals in 1998 and 1999 again against different opposition. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2545 - 09/07/2023 22:57:52 2493460 Link
I thought we were done for half way through the 2nd half. Clare had pulled 2 points ahead and were dominating everywhere. Cian Kenny pointed to make it a one point deficit and from the next puck out, Clare lost possession and Cody got a goal that we never looked like scoring otherwise. It was a suicidal puck out routine by Clare. Short puck outs to a free corner back are one thing, but a short puck out that necessitates a defender needing to carry a ball past opposition forwards in front of their own goal is going to end in disaster sooner or later. Clare's disallowed goal was a big break for us, I'm not going to lie. But to cut Colm Lyons some slack, he had been playing advantage all day including in this instance, but bringing it back for the free as soon as no advantage accrued. He blew the whistle as soon as he thought Huw Lawlor gained possession, he obviously didn't anticipate Lawlor would lose the ball. On that performance I honestly don't give us any chance in the final. If we're dominated for 20-25 minutes of the 2nd half like we were today, Limerick will clock up at least 1 or 2-16 in that spell, guaranteed. But we put on an exhibition in last year's semi final and lost the final, so maybe it's not such a bad think we scraped through this time! ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1257 - 09/07/2023 22:59:45 2493462 Link
Replying To TomWex: "Kilkenny do not loose all irelands to the same opposition 2 years in a row... It just doesn't happen!!" Yes they've lost consecutive finals to 2 different teams on 3 occasions but never to the same opposition. YET! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 09/07/2023 23:00:29 2493463 Link
Replying To endgame: "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match." Clare needed to empty the tank last year to beat Wexford in Thurles. And needed that bit of luck with key Wexford men getting injured. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 09/07/2023 23:01:49 2493464 Link
Replying To CARPS: "There's a lot of nonsense talk here about Munster vs Leinster. The reality is that "serious" hurling (ie. the top 15 counties - from Liam McCarthy and Joe McDonagh) is divided into three tiers. Tier One: Kilkenny, Galway, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary, Cork Tier Two: Dublin, Wexford, Waterford Tier Three: Carlow, Antrim, Kerry, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath. Inside the tiers, any team can beat another. Any of tier two can beat a Tier One team on a given day. Tier Three teams cannot beat Tier One teams. However, Tier Three teams can beat Tier Two teams, on a given day. ie. Westmeath could beat Wexford, but they would not beat Kilkenny. Or Dublin could lose to Carlow, but they could also beat Galway. What the GAA should be trying to do is move more Tier Three teams into Tier Two, and expand Tier One. Not to mention getting the likes of Kildare, Meath and Down into Tier Three." Tipp lost to Kerry last year. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 09/07/2023 23:03:12 2493465 Link
Replying To KnockaineyAbú: "wrong. 1936 and 1937." They lost to different opponents in 36 and 37 Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 09/07/2023 23:04:02 2493466 Link