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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "wrong. 1936 and 1937."
Wrong! Kilkenny lost to Limerick in 1936,but lost to Tipperary in 1937.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 580 - 09/07/2023 23:21:14    2493469

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Go on the stripey men. Kock a bit of arrogance out of some...

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 09/07/2023 23:22:37    2493470

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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "wrong. 1936 and 1937."
98 99 Also

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 182 - 09/07/2023 23:29:47    2493471

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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "wrong. 1936 and 1937."
I was just checking Wikipedia and they lost 36 and 37 but to different opposition. Tbf the poster stated Kilkenny don't lose two years in a row to the same opposition.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4027 - 09/07/2023 23:30:21    2493472

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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "wrong. 1936 and 1937."
They also lost 45 and 46 but to the same opposition it would be nice to rectify that

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4518 - 09/07/2023 23:32:25    2493473

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1936 beaten by Limerick but 1937 beaten by Tipperary....

LaLu (Louth) - Posts: 238 - 09/07/2023 23:46:35    2493475

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "An enjoyable game, especially the result from a personal point of view. But, besides all the dramatic incidents , it was no way a classic. I feel Clare probably lost it in the first half. Saying that, the game could have gone either way.
I think one big advantage Kilkenny have is older experienced players on the bench who have won everything, but who can't no longer play 70 minutes, but are fine for the last 20 or 15 minutes.
I feel that if Kilkenny are going to beat Limerick in the final, they'll need to play better than they have done up to now, plus Limerick having an off day, plus luck.

Commiserations to Clare. Such fine margins decide so many games these days. If you had won Munster, you'd probably be in an All-Ireland now (no offence to Galway)."
Probably be in an all Ireland? Based upon what ? And no not offended just surprised

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 10/07/2023 01:52:46    2493480

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Know nothing about hurling but never a good outcome when you have a clear goal disallowed and you lose by 3.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 304 - 10/07/2023 08:48:41    2493487

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Replying To thelongridge:  "The Clare player scored a goal, after the KK no 3 dropped the ball. Perfect goal denied by a refereeing error."
Whistle was blown as the Kilkenny lad was catching the ball. Anything happened after that is irrelevant as the play was dead and players stopped playing.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16639 - 10/07/2023 09:05:48    2493493

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Replying To thelongridge:  "The Clare player scored a goal, after the KK no 3 dropped the ball. Perfect goal denied by a refereeing error."
The whistle had clearly been blown though before the ball was dropped. As bad as Lyons was I wouldn't be criticising him for that.
Have Munster counties been told that head high shoulders to the head are not allowed? They seem to thrive on those sort of tackles.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 10/07/2023 09:39:20    2493496

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Replying To endgame:  "Clare play better in Munster than in Croke park. What a cock up for the Kilkenny goal. Clare had all the momentum and they go and do that. Shane O'Donnell was outstanding. Such an intelligent player. I had to check that Tony Kelly was still on the field in the second half. Clare have genuine grievances over the referee's performance but when the game was in the balance in the second half, Clare found a way to lose it and Kilkenny found a way to win it. Full credit to Kilkenny for that."
I suppose you summed it up fairly well Clare management at fault for sweeper we haven't played it before under BL.
The stupid mix up for the KK goal Clare were winning puckouts by Peter Duggan no need to go short. Clare also has two other great chances apart from the disallowed goal Mark Rodgers in first half when midfielder got a hurley to it and and unrreal Eoin Murphy save from P Dugga.

Also Tony Kelly playing such a withdrawn role possible trying to avoid the man marker but KK always stay in the fight so probably just about deserved it

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 998 - 10/07/2023 10:00:26    2493501

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As a wexford man, I have to say, you hot to hand it to kilkenny, they always give yhe very best of themselves. 100 percent effort and work rate at all times and they always do the right thing. The basis off to a tee. I was delighted they won yesterday and I be shouting for them in the final.
One final point, I think RTE is a joke, the gave kk very little credit yesterday, just focused on Clare and the ref. Kilkenny were the better team and deserved to win.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 10/07/2023 10:09:32    2493502

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Replying To endgame:  "Clare play better in Munster than in Croke park. What a cock up for the Kilkenny goal. Clare had all the momentum and they go and do that. Shane O'Donnell was outstanding. Such an intelligent player. I had to check that Tony Kelly was still on the field in the second half. Clare have genuine grievances over the referee's performance but when the game was in the balance in the second half, Clare found a way to lose it and Kilkenny found a way to win it. Full credit to Kilkenny for that."
Do Clare play better in munster or did they just meet better opposition?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3839 - 10/07/2023 10:14:02    2493505

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Gutted to exit the championship at this stage again but proud of this team they have given us great days this year but we again failed to get over the line.

The real disappointment yesterday was some of the overall poor decision making we made. Passing was not up to scratch, it was aimless at times with better options ignored and you cannot give away the goal we gave up yesterday and expect to win any semi final. The sweeper was obviously a very poor decision. I cant get my head around it.

Shane O Donnell solidified his claim for back to back All Stars yesterday, I thought he was absolutely sublime.

Despite all the negatives yesterday we had our chances to win it and like the Munster final our accuracy is or lack thereof is killing us.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 10/07/2023 10:15:48    2493506

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Replying To aloneitstands:  "Watching the AIHSF Limerick v Galway again can't believe how biased Brendan Cummins against Limerick. Any frees they got were somehow their own fault and they were playing for them. No comment when it was a Galway free. At least you would expect these pundits should be impartial."
Makes an absolute change for a pundit to say something favourable about Galway on air. Have been criticised from pillar to post all year long by all media commentators. Brian Lohan thought his team had it hard!

Triffic (Galway) - Posts: 166 - 10/07/2023 10:33:35    2493510

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Replying To Yellow:  "I feel sorry for Clare again this year but they complain so much to the ref over every little thing and always lose their cool when calm heads are needed. How many times today was Tony Kelly or Peter Duggan and Brian Lohan completely outraged at the ref.

I never thought I'd cheer for Kilkenny as a Wexford man but you have to respect their work rate and doggedness.

Clares golden generation have won very little but if they put the same energy into a game as Kilkenny and stop expending energy being constantly outraged they would win more

They have great talented players but need to realise that their habit of getting worked up is playing into the opposition hands."
Couldn't agree more. I was shouting for Kilkenny myself. I was fed up listening to this nonsense that Clare were "too tired" and "emotionally wrecked" in the semi final last year. I thought it was completely disrespectful to Kilkenny and masked over the fact that for all the talented hurlers Clare have they also have serious flaws.

I said before i don't think any of Clares backs would be starting on any of the other three teams that played this weekend. Conlan might get in ahead of Richie Reid but that would be it and that is the real reason Clare don't get over the line in big games. When was the last time they held a top team to less than 25 or 26 points?

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 10/07/2023 10:46:10    2493513

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "They also lost 45 and 46 but to the same opposition it would be nice to rectify that"
Wrong! Kilkenny lost to Tipperary in 1945, and lost to Cork in 1946!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 580 - 10/07/2023 10:51:10    2493515

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "98 99 Also"
Kilkenny lost to Offaly in 1998 and to Cork in 1999 . The poster as Ciarrai Mick points out, specifically stated that Kilkenny didn't lose to same opponent in all Ireland final 2 years on a row!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 580 - 10/07/2023 10:55:07    2493516

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Go on the stripey men. Kock a bit of arrogance out of some..."
Well well, with a bigger hurling population your county have not won an. All Ireland in 85 years and you are taking a little dig at Limerick. The old green eyed monster is alive and well.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4518 - 10/07/2023 11:00:26    2493517

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "Know nothing about hurling but never a good outcome when you have a clear goal disallowed and you lose by 3."
I wonder about Shane O' Donnell's goal. He clearly pushed defender off him, almost a rugby style hand off, prior to taking his shot. I guess referee didn't catch it. Game to remember for that superlative save by Eoin Murphy.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 580 - 10/07/2023 11:01:09    2493518

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