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Replying To TomWex:  "Kilkenny do not loose all irelands to the same opposition 2 years in a row... It just doesn't happen!!"
They are however the last county to lose consecutive all Ireland finals, and they were favourites to win both times afaik.
Limerick are a serious opponent, and I'd be surprised if they're beaten tbh, but of the two, Clare and kilkenny,, kilkenny will give them a tougher test imo.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 09/07/2023 18:34:43    2493384

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Replying To TomWex:  "I did say after the Munster Final that the Clare corner backs and Tony Kelly seemed to be able to get away with a lof of dragging and off the ball shite.. didn't get away with it today.. but I will say that Goal should've stood... Clare had advantage but Colm Lyons thought Kilkenny were in position and blew back for the free... big mistake..... 100% a clare goal... all day long"
KK players stopped whit whistle. No guarantee it would have been a goal..

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 179 - 09/07/2023 18:35:33    2493385

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "Ye lucky to be there so a bit of humility might not go astray."
I was being sarcastic. Look at the post I was replying to, if you're going to talk about humility.
Talking about humility, maybe you should read some of the comments on here from people from your own county before you get on your high horse.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 09/07/2023 18:36:27    2493386

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Replying To TomWex:  "I know yeah.. its just not fair... what with Munster being so superior.. in fact any of the top 4 teams in Munster would win Leinster every year..."
As bad as Galway were in the second half yesterday they still comfortably beat Munster's third best team Tipp so Munster (outside of the "big green giants") are not that "superior" it seems.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/07/2023 18:36:32    2493387

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Replying To endgame:  "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match."
Only team that has beaten Kilkenny this year in the championship is Wexford... Who were also Leinster Champions in 2019....

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 257 - 09/07/2023 18:39:14    2493388

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I apologise on behalf of the whole of Kilkenny, and Leinster, for robbing you of a 'great final'. The GAA need to do something about us upstarts from Leinster, upsetting the Premier League of Munster."
Clare and Limerick games over the last couple of years have been compelling. I'd would have loved a bit of that.. The Cats will give Limerick lots so enough of this woe is me crap

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1479 - 09/07/2023 18:40:38    2493390

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I'm no hurling expert but I enjoy watching the games. Maybe someone with greater knowledge can explain something for me. In yesterday's game; Galway were well on top and Henry decided to drop one player from the full forward line when Galway were taking it to Limerick, it resulted in Limerick seizing the initiative. Today, Brian Lohan decided to start with a sweeper and leave Ian Galvin on the bench even though Clare nearly beat Limerick by taking the game to them. Now, I have huge respect for Kilkenny but they're not the best Kilkenny team of all time - why not play Galvin from the start, why wait till you are five points behind at half time. The difference when he was introduced was profound. In relation to the final; I think Kilkenny will push Limerick especially if Hannon and Finn are not playing which seems likely but I don't think they have the players to finish the job against Limerick. I was surprised when Richie Hogan came on today; I thought he was retired.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2117 - 09/07/2023 18:45:45    2493392

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Replying To endgame:  "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match."
Excus4s from clare ref poor but didn't cost them didn't clear for kk goal and went ahead couldn't keep it ahead

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 799 - 09/07/2023 18:49:00    2493394

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Replying To endgame:  "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match."
To be fair Limerick can hammer anyone.

We did lose to Westmeath, but we're a proper hurling county. Our contribution to our national game has been greater than most.

Would you not maybe acknowledge that Westmeath have put massive effort into improving and have also had some big days underage?

We é had a really poor season, but we can still match anyone bar Limerick on our day.

The point is there's plenty of hurling outside munster, which is proven time and time again.

Would feel for Clare but lohan blaming the ref on rte is a bit much.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3838 - 09/07/2023 18:54:31    2493396

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Replying To endgame:  "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match."
Kilkenny lost to Wexford.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 871 - 09/07/2023 18:57:42    2493398

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Replying To endgame:  "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match."
Lyon could have sent off Hogan for the wild pull on Cody and Diarmuid Ryan for the challenge on Richie Hogan so maybe he wasn't too harsh on Clare. It must be hard to ref a match with Tony Kelly playing as he wants to ref it too.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 905 - 09/07/2023 19:11:20    2493404

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Replying To TomWex:  "I did say after the Munster Final that the Clare corner backs and Tony Kelly seemed to be able to get away with a lof of dragging and off the ball shite.. didn't get away with it today.. but I will say that Goal should've stood... Clare had advantage but Colm Lyons thought Kilkenny were in position and blew back for the free... big mistake..... 100% a clare goal... all day long"
appalling decision. complete opposite to the decision for Limerick's first goal. Do the referees know the rule or is there one?

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 359 - 09/07/2023 19:17:15    2493407

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Replying To TomWex:  "I know yeah.. its just not fair... what with Munster being so superior.. in fact any of the top 4 teams in Munster would win Leinster every year..."
Not a single person with the slightest interest in hurling thinks that.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 455 - 09/07/2023 19:25:08    2493409

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Good game with Colm Lyons just about Eoin Cody for man of the match from a Kilkenny perspective....

HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 67 - 09/07/2023 19:26:19    2493411

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An enjoyable game, especially the result from a personal point of view. But, besides all the dramatic incidents , it was no way a classic. I feel Clare probably lost it in the first half. Saying that, the game could have gone either way.
I think one big advantage Kilkenny have is older experienced players on the bench who have won everything, but who can't no longer play 70 minutes, but are fine for the last 20 or 15 minutes.
I feel that if Kilkenny are going to beat Limerick in the final, they'll need to play better than they have done up to now, plus Limerick having an off day, plus luck.

Commiserations to Clare. Such fine margins decide so many games these days. If you had won Munster, you'd probably be in an All-Ireland now (no offence to Galway).

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 09/07/2023 19:26:40    2493412

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What's the story with Mikey Carey?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2443 - 09/07/2023 19:32:11    2493415

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Replying To Ban:  "Clare and Limerick games over the last couple of years have been compelling. I'd would have loved a bit of that.. The Cats will give Limerick lots so enough of this woe is me crap"
How many more eejits like you do have to explain it to.

Look at what my comment was replying to (the thread)!

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 09/07/2023 19:33:27    2493416

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Replying To endgame:  "Outside of Kilkenny who will always be competitive and dangerous, what does Leinster have though. Galway hammered yesterday and Wexford lost to Westmeath. That game today was there for Clare but they weren't able to get over the line. Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles . Clare will have plenty of regrets tonight but Lyons did them no favours over the course of the match."
"Might have been different if the game was played in Thurles"

How, and in what way, would the game have been different if the game had been played in Thurles?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 09/07/2023 19:39:43    2493419

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Replying To CARPS:  "Kilkenny lost to Wexford."
Kilkenny are still in the All Ireland Final. Kerry lost to Mayo . When it matters those traditional counties find a way to win . Limerick will need to be at their best in two weeks time.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2542 - 09/07/2023 19:42:07    2493420

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There's a lot of nonsense talk here about Munster vs Leinster.

The reality is that "serious" hurling (ie. the top 15 counties - from Liam McCarthy and Joe McDonagh) is divided into three tiers.

Tier One: Kilkenny, Galway, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary, Cork

Tier Two: Dublin, Wexford, Waterford

Tier Three: Carlow, Antrim, Kerry, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath.

Inside the tiers, any team can beat another.

Any of tier two can beat a Tier One team on a given day. Tier Three teams cannot beat Tier One teams.

However, Tier Three teams can beat Tier Two teams, on a given day.

ie. Westmeath could beat Wexford, but they would not beat Kilkenny. Or Dublin could lose to Carlow, but they could also beat Galway.

What the GAA should be trying to do is move more Tier Three teams into Tier Two, and expand Tier One.

Not to mention getting the likes of Kildare, Meath and Down into Tier Three.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 871 - 09/07/2023 19:43:04    2493421

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