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Replying To Viking66:  "The reality in the late noughties was Kilkenny were hammering everyone, not just the Leinster counties. The year before your 1st in Leinster they won the AI final by 23 points. They were an amazing team.
We had by our standards a poor enough team at the time. Probably our poorest team since before WW2. Offaly also declined at the same time. Dublin were fairly strong however and were probably unlucky not to win an AI title.
You won Leinster in 2017 and 2018. We probably would have won Leinster in those 2 years had you not been in Leinster, as we had a better team than Kilkenny in those years and beat them in the Leinster semifinal in 2017."
If Galway hadn't been in Leinster they'd have gone direct to an AISF anyway! There were sacrifices on both sides. I'd contend that Galway's presence in Leinster, the ferocious battles they had with KK, their drawn games that took so much out of both sides gave both Wexford and Dublin a better chance to win both Leinster and an AIF. Would Dublin have won a Leinster if Galway weren't there? We'll never know but I have my doubts!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 08/07/2023 14:39:02    2493125

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Replying To baire:  "If Galway hadn't been in Leinster they'd have gone direct to an AISF anyway! There were sacrifices on both sides. I'd contend that Galway's presence in Leinster, the ferocious battles they had with KK, their drawn games that took so much out of both sides gave both Wexford and Dublin a better chance to win both Leinster and an AIF. Would Dublin have won a Leinster if Galway weren't there? We'll never know but I have my doubts!"
Galway didn't want to go straight into an AISF as they thought that was the reason they did so badly in AISFs and AIFs. Despite having a very good team for the last 15 years their record in AISFs and AIFs hasn't got much better though. There have to be other issues at play but I guess that's a whole new discussion.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 08/07/2023 16:25:37    2493135

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Why is it when Clare beat Wexford lads like you have a very simple reason why we did so rather than admitting Clare are a better team than Wexford?

It's either our best player has to go off injured because of a made up "dirty stroke" that no one else saw or sure we didn't get off the bus for the first 15 minutes. Always a simple solution. Look at Wexfords record against Clare over the past 10 years (1 win I think) and a pattern is obvious."
Clares record in the championship against wexford is excellent.

Win in 02, 05, 06

Draw in 13, Clare win aet

Draw the wexford win in 14

I think Clare in 18

Again last year.

The 2 I struggle with are 13 and last year. Wouldn't challenge Clare were way ahead the other days.

Three points up in 13 with a couple of minutes to go. Our full back went down and play should have been stopped. Ye won the all Ireland out of it.

Last year Tony Kelly was totally dominated by Shane reck so tk bursted him between the legs then Clare took over. That was the winning of the match.

I'll be straight up and tell you I don't like Clare very much. In my experience, Clare supporters have been really unsporting and have a level of arrogance they've done nothing to earn.

Not saying that's everyone, just my experience.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3837 - 08/07/2023 17:14:35    2493147

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My money today is on a Galway win. There'll be nothing in it.. I agree with Henry last week when he said he looks forward to the day that Galway actually do click.. if they repeat the work ethic and improve the scoring efficiency they'll beat Limerick.

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 08/07/2023 17:14:46    2493148

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Oh show me that Galway goal again :) :) :)

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 08/07/2023 18:15:33    2493155

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Replying To TomWex:  "Oh show me that Galway goal again :) :) :)"
It was some goal alright! Looked like they were going to be 8/9 points up at ht. Took the foot off the gas and now just one up. Should be a great second half..

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 08/07/2023 18:40:48    2493157

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Having watched a lot of hurling over many years, I really have a problem with Quaid stalling his puck out and wasting time killing the momentum of the match.
Just makes for bad viewing here at home and booing at the match.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1881 - 08/07/2023 18:54:40    2493163

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Replying To carlowman:  "Having watched a lot of hurling over many years, I really have a problem with Quaid stalling his puck out and wasting time killing the momentum of the match.
Just makes for bad viewing here at home and booing at the match."
Yes, awful sportsmanship

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 08/07/2023 19:26:19    2493165

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Replying To TomWex:  "My money today is on a Galway win. There'll be nothing in it.. I agree with Henry last week when he said he looks forward to the day that Galway actually do click.. if they repeat the work ethic and improve the scoring efficiency they'll beat Limerick."
Galway clicked and then were unclicked by the same Henry when he put us on the defensive when we had Limerick on the ropes in the first half. That said Limerick are some team and really found that extra gear in the second half when we were found wanting. They're some pack.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 08/07/2023 19:32:10    2493166

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Limerick back to their best. Can't see Kilkenny or Clare stopping them in a few weeks

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 08/07/2023 19:41:25    2493169

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Limerick are a machine. Always move through the gears when they have to. Great side. They must be the biggest, most powerful outfit ever to take to a hurling field.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 08/07/2023 19:41:28    2493170

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Replying To festinog:  "Galway clicked and then were unclicked by the same Henry when he put us on the defensive when we had Limerick on the ropes in the first half. That said Limerick are some team and really found that extra gear in the second half when we were found wanting. They're some pack."
Our full back line is shambolic

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 08/07/2023 19:41:54    2493171

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Hard to see Henry staying after this, Galway no closer to winning an all Ireland than they were when he took over.

Limerick looked ominous in the second half.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1257 - 08/07/2023 19:45:18    2493172

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Replying To Jackson88:  "Our full back line is shambolic"
Very weak indeed. Which made Shefflin's decision to switch to defense all the more bizarre. I understand the style we were playing was intense and hard to sustain for a full 70 minutes, but ffs at least see out the half. I'm not convinced by him as a manager at all. At least we managed to cut out the mad shots from the half back line!

But again, that Limerick team were a league ahead of us. We've been playing mediocre hurling all championship and got knocked out about where we deserved to be.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 08/07/2023 19:52:26    2493176

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Men against boys. Galway were very poor. And Limerick weren't even at their sharpest when it came to shooting. Limerick could easily have won that by game by 20 points. But Limk will have to up it again if they are to win the final. Hope the All-stars don't forget Whelan when they pick their team later in the year. Class act, mighty season but can't do much if the ball isn't going into him.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2347 - 08/07/2023 19:54:03    2493177

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Galway 6 points ahead 28 minutes played but end up losing by 9 points. Main conclusion is Limerick's fitness is off the charts.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4125 - 08/07/2023 19:59:13    2493180

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I know Henry will come under huge pressure now but where were the Galway leaders when it started to go wrong..2 mannions,Burke,Mcinerney..when it was going good these boys were flying but when needed effort or fight wasn't there..these are great days for limerick that I never thought I'd see and I'm glad to be alive for it..we are lucky to have players who stand up when really needed..we got a hold on whelan which just took a huge weapon from Galway..it could be the end of the road for a few and I'm sure the next few days are going to be very difficult..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2572 - 08/07/2023 20:08:19    2493182

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Men against boys. Galway were very poor. And Limerick weren't even at their sharpest when it came to shooting. Limerick could easily have won that by game by 20 points. But Limk will have to up it again if they are to win the final. Hope the All-stars don't forget Whelan when they pick their team later in the year. Class act, mighty season but can't do much if the ball isn't going into him."
A performance like that in the second half will handily see off either of the other two semi finalists.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 08/07/2023 20:32:25    2493192

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I know Henry will come under huge pressure now but where were the Galway leaders when it started to go wrong..2 mannions,Burke,Mcinerney..when it was going good these boys were flying but when needed effort or fight wasn't there..these are great days for limerick that I never thought I'd see and I'm glad to be alive for it..we are lucky to have players who stand up when really needed..we got a hold on whelan which just took a huge weapon from Galway..it could be the end of the road for a few and I'm sure the next few days are going to be very difficult.."
It started to go wrong when Henry changed tactics in the first half. Though I'd agree that there are problems on the field too. But change must start at the top.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 08/07/2023 20:38:04    2493196

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Galway were septic that second half. Galway haven't improved under Shefflin and I don't know is he the man to manage them to an All Ireland. He should have never changed what was working so well. Galway have unbelievably talented players but that second half was dire.

Limerick are a superb team and once they settled down dismantled Galway. Their mentality and attitude is unreal and are a joy to watch when hurling well. There will be some fight for a starting berth in two weeks. I presume Hannon will be back for the final??

Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 64 - 08/07/2023 20:45:31    2493200

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