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Replying To tiobraid:  "Youre misunderstanding me. Many feel this is the greatest era and highest standard hurling has ever been. I and some KK people I've spoken to agree that this KK team arent a patch on ones which has gone before. Of COurse if they win they'll deserve it - just like they did yesterday."
Fairly self-evident that we are not looking at 'the highest standard hurling has ever been' right now. I don't need to argue the point, because you've argued it yourself in your very next sentence.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4145 - 13/06/2023 11:04:01    2486120

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Replying To CARPS:  "Can anyone explain the logic of Tipperary vs Offaly being televised, ahead of Carlow v Dublin this weekend?

No offense to our friends in Offaly, but surely all known form suggests that Carlow are likely to get closer to Dublin than they are to Tipp?

Plus, Carlow won the Joe McDonagh. So you'd think the GAA would favor the champions for TV purposes?

I don't understand this selection at all."
More people from Tipp and Offaly watch hurling than from Carlow and Dublin.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 13/06/2023 11:20:06    2486126

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "It was disgraceful.

I had two kids at the game today but
, unlike those who ran on the pitch, I had control over my children.

The ref bottled the end of the game. Clare had 2 frees, neither given.

You know what though. We will be better for it, please god we see ye in the All Ireland. We owe ye more than one"
The ref gave Clare everything he could up till then.

Maybe Clare's diving is going to start going against them.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 13/06/2023 11:29:43    2486132

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I'd imagine some of it is to do with the timing of the games. Tipp/Offaly fits in with their schedule while 5pm is an unusual time and was only decided on yesterday for some reason.

Should be a big crowd in Dr. Cullen and while I expect Carlow to put in a strong showing, Dublin will not be taking anything for granted and will be well set up for that and hope to establish an early lead. Could be interesting though if it stays close into the last quarter."
I think it's more to do with that GAAGO are also showing 3 live football matches, than the timing of the games, which could easily moved.
I also see that TG4 are showing 2 live ladies football matches on Saturday. Which I suppose you would expect them to, as they are sponsoring the competition.
But, the fact is, there are 6 GAA games being shown live on Saturday, 5 of them are football games.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2777 - 13/06/2023 11:43:31    2486138

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Replying To Fitzy01:  "Tipp are the big draw and realistically the ones many people will want to see . Offaly were a former powerhouse who are slowly getting back so i guess that's why they picked that one.
You are right though it should be on GAAGO"
They may be slowly getting back, but Carlow beat them twice in the past month.

Again, no offense to Offaly, but all known form suggests this will be a rather one-sided game.

I do hope it's not.

Carlow and Dublin has the potential for an upset. Especially given Carlow are the only undefeated team left in the championship.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 863 - 13/06/2023 11:55:02    2486140

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Fair enough. Just one final thought. You rarely get a poor Kilkenny team. They are usually, fair to middling, good, or very good."
That's fair enough and accurate. We are all guilty of comparing them to the 4 in a row team and that's unfair

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/06/2023 12:12:14    2486150

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Replying To CARPS:  "They may be slowly getting back, but Carlow beat them twice in the past month.

Again, no offense to Offaly, but all known form suggests this will be a rather one-sided game.

I do hope it's not.

Carlow and Dublin has the potential for an upset. Especially given Carlow are the only undefeated team left in the championship."
It doesn't matter if the Carlow Dublin game is a better game if more people are interested in watching Tipp Offaly. GAAGO's objective is to show games that more people want to see rather than to be showing closer games.

And Carlow beat an Offaly B team followed by a draw (in normal time) against 14 men. So they are quiet even.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 13/06/2023 12:16:20    2486151

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Replying To CARPS:  "They may be slowly getting back, but Carlow beat them twice in the past month.

Again, no offense to Offaly, but all known form suggests this will be a rather one-sided game.

I do hope it's not.

Carlow and Dublin has the potential for an upset. Especially given Carlow are the only undefeated team left in the championship."
I'd love to be able to watch the game. And while there is always a chance of an upset, I think this Dublin team will be too good for Carlow.
Dublin lost only one game in the Leinster group stage, losing to Kilkenny by 6 points in Nowlan Park. They also beat Wexford, and drew with Galway.
If they get past Carlow, I think they'll be in with a chance of beating Clare.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2777 - 13/06/2023 12:17:41    2486152

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Replying To CARPS:  "They may be slowly getting back, but Carlow beat them twice in the past month.

Again, no offense to Offaly, but all known form suggests this will be a rather one-sided game.

I do hope it's not.

Carlow and Dublin has the potential for an upset. Especially given Carlow are the only undefeated team left in the championship."
Indeed. Remember Laois beating Dublin in 2019?

KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 13/06/2023 12:18:59    2486155

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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "Indeed. Remember Laois beating Dublin in 2019?"
Dublin will remember that more than anyone else. Don't think the current set up going to make the same mistakes as were made around that..

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3541 - 13/06/2023 12:36:45    2486161

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I see theres a whole host of games on GAAGO at the weekend. I've made my opinions clear on the fact I think these matches shouldnt be really on at all but if the purpose is to promote these teams then why arent the JMac winners being shown on TV? They took a couple of week to nail down a day and even longer to give a time for the games.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/06/2023 12:50:31    2486167

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I see Cork want 1 of the QF's in PUC so that's 1 of Galway V Tipp, Galway v Offaly, Clare v Dublin or Clare v Carlow, its a lovely stadium but to push for 1 of these pairings in that location shows the height of disrespect to the competing teams supporters.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/06/2023 12:55:42    2486170

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "I see Cork want 1 of the QF's in PUC so that's 1 of Galway V Tipp, Galway v Offaly, Clare v Dublin or Clare v Carlow, its a lovely stadium but to push for 1 of these pairings in that location shows the height of disrespect to the competing teams supporters."
They can forget about it. Surely the teams involved would refuse to play it?

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/06/2023 12:59:45    2486173

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Exactly Slayer. This Limerick team has contested twelve Finals and won all twelve. No dis grace to lose to them, but it is best to focus on your own teams mistakes rather than passing begrudging remarks about the victorious opposition."
I'm the first to admit some of our pitch invasions from yesteryear made no sense :-)

1995 we invaded PUC after beating Tipp 0-16 to 0-15. I think a lot of that was after the hurt of the 1994 final & we thought our lads were on the road again. We invaded the GG at the end of the 2007 trilogy v Tipp. Again we'd nothing won but Jesus we were success starved back then and in the words of Mister Mullane 'we loves our county'.

Sunday was a different kettle of fish. We are living through a time of amazing history where our men in Green are producing performances that are lifting the whole county. I'm surprised it was just the kids and that is wasn't more like the battle of Bannockburn where the whole county paid homage to these lads who are making us proud!

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 13/06/2023 13:00:19    2486174

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Replying To skirge7:  "It doesn't matter if the Carlow Dublin game is a better game if more people are interested in watching Tipp Offaly. GAAGO's objective is to show games that more people want to see rather than to be showing closer games.

And Carlow beat an Offaly B team followed by a draw (in normal time) against 14 men. So they are quiet even."
And how do you know Carlow wouldn't have beaten a full strength Offaly, in the first game? Not Carlow's fault that Offaly decided to rest some players.

The fact is Carlow beat Offaly twice. They are the only unbeaten team left in the championship.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 863 - 13/06/2023 13:05:13    2486177

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Replying To tiobraid:  "They can forget about it. Surely the teams involved would refuse to play it?"
You'd hope so anyway, if Cork want the debt paid back on the ground ask Ed Sheeran and Westlife, not Galway or Clare supporters.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/06/2023 13:08:12    2486178

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Replying To tiobraid:  "They can forget about it. Surely the teams involved would refuse to play it?"
Páirc Uí Chaoimh was the preferred choice of venue by Munster officials for the Munster final, but they agreed to Clare's request (with Limerick's consent) to play it in Gaelic Grounds.

Clare chairman Kieran Keating said
"From our point of view, we considered the Gaelic Grounds and we spoke to Limerick about it...were interested in that as an option too rather than Cork, the journey to and from Cork. We just decided from our own supporters' point of view and the preparation of our players that Limerick was the logical option"

Will the GAA give the same considerations to all the teams and their supporters for the quarter-finals? I doubt it. I expect Páirc Uí Chaoimh to be given at least one.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2777 - 13/06/2023 13:33:25    2486189

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It would make no sense to drag any of the likely participants to Cork and probably halve the attendance. It could be a really good double header played in Thurles or Limerick.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3541 - 13/06/2023 13:52:12    2486197

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Páirc Uí Chaoimh was the preferred choice of venue by Munster officials for the Munster final, but they agreed to Clare's request (with Limerick's consent) to play it in Gaelic Grounds.

Clare chairman Kieran Keating said
"From our point of view, we considered the Gaelic Grounds and we spoke to Limerick about it...were interested in that as an option too rather than Cork, the journey to and from Cork. We just decided from our own supporters' point of view and the preparation of our players that Limerick was the logical option"

Will the GAA give the same considerations to all the teams and their supporters for the quarter-finals? I doubt it. I expect Páirc Uí Chaoimh to be given at least one."
Galway v Tipp/Offaly
Clare v Dublin/Carlow

are the fixtures. I think there'll be war if they attempt to fix any matches for Cork. The semi final pairings would make slightly more sense to play them in Cork (if Tipp and Clare got through0 but even then...

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/06/2023 13:54:27    2486199

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "You'd hope so anyway, if Cork want the debt paid back on the ground ask Ed Sheeran and Westlife, not Galway or Clare supporters."
True! Cork can also open up the stadium for rugby, as a recent game against South Africa filled the stadium. Lots of options, even playing Munster rugby games there. They shouldn't try to fix GAA games when other counties don't want to go there!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 532 - 13/06/2023 14:20:06    2486214

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