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For all the coverage and attention on the Tony Kelly foul at the end of the Munster final can anybody tell me how the blatant foul on Sean linnane as he tried to rise the ball was missed ? TJ Reid pushed him down in the neck /back so hard that the very top of his helmet went into the ground. No complaints here over the result , the lack of game management/ cuteness is our own fault. Just very surprised I haven't seen one single mention of the foul on Linnane. mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 54 - 12/06/2023 17:51:01 2485997 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Galway doing us a favour by beating Dublin? Where did you get this nonsense from? In the final round of games if Dublin had beaten Galway, and Kilkenny beaten Wexford: it would have been a Dublin v Kilkenny Leinster final. It's a round robin competition, where every team plays each other, with top teams overall going through. Maybe Wexford shouldn't be so obsessed with Kilkenny, and concentrated a bit more on Westmeath and Dublin, either of who you haven't beaten in 2 years on the trot. But no, it's Galway's fault." Last year if Dublin had of beaten Galway it would have been a Galway v Dublin final, we would've been 3rd as we were, and you would have been out altogether on head to head. That's the definition of a must win game. Agree 100% with the second half of your post. We need to be working out ways to beat Dublin, Galway and Westmeath. Our record against all 3 is terrible the last few years. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15796 - 12/06/2023 18:42:43 2486019 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "That's the main part of the problem. Not one stadium in Leinster, bar Croke Park, with a 30k+ capacity. Whereas, in Munster they have 3 or 4(?) with a 40k+ capacity." Killarney is just less than 40k. But yes they pretty much have 4 suitable stadia for finals whereas Nowlan Park is the only one outside Croke Park in Leinster. And even that is a little small. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15796 - 12/06/2023 18:46:21 2486021 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Youre misunderstanding me. Many feel this is the greatest era and highest standard hurling has ever been. I and some KK people I've spoken to agree that this KK team arent a patch on ones which has gone before. Of COurse if they win they'll deserve it - just like they did yesterday." You compared them to the 4 in a row KK team in your original post, which is a very high bar for any county to be compared to, with the possible exception of the current Limerick team. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2776 - 12/06/2023 18:49:10 2486025 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "That's the main part of the problem. Not one stadium in Leinster, bar Croke Park, with a 30k+ capacity. Whereas, in Munster they have 3 or 4(?) with a 40k+ capacity." 4. Kerry, Cork, Limerick, Tipp. Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 61 - 12/06/2023 19:06:07 2486033 Link
Replying To Viking66: "What have the Dubs got to do with it?!" Tina Turner! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 532 - 12/06/2023 19:29:18 2486038 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "Himself, Shane McGrath and Anthony Nash are all the same and are massively biased towards Munster hurling. I don't get the need for province bashing. Leinster was not overly competitive this year but since the introduction of the round robin its been by far the most competitive championship. If Gearoid Hegarty or Shane O'Donnell had of scored the goal and the point Wally Walsh got yesterday you'd never hear the end of it" If a KK player was like TJ, King Henry or DJ was top scorer from play in three All ,Ireland Finals, we would have a pain in our thrash bags listening to SG Analysts Blowing about it. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4493 - 12/06/2023 19:55:33 2486043 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Last year if Dublin had of beaten Galway it would have been a Galway v Dublin final, we would've been 3rd as we were, and you would have been out altogether on head to head. That's the definition of a must win game. Agree 100% with the second half of your post. We need to be working out ways to beat Dublin, Galway and Westmeath. Our record against all 3 is terrible the last few years." Yes, But when Galway lined up against Dublin last year they hadn't already qualified for the Leinster final, they needed to win, or maybe at least a draw to make sure. To suggest that by beating Dublin, Galway were doing Kilkenny a favour is not true. Galway were doing what was best for them. Anyway, I don't no why you started on about last year, when my debate with tiobraid was about this year. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2776 - 12/06/2023 20:51:30 2486055 Link
Am I right I thinking Carlow are now the only unbeaten team still left in this year's senior championship? Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1566 - 12/06/2023 22:05:52 2486067 Link
Replying To slayer: "LRH, I have a lot of respect for your posts. You talk a lot of sense. But calling children a disgrace for over exuberance & saying their parents can't control them is in very poor taste. Whether it was Clare or Limerick children invading, isn't it great to see so many kids at the game? They are kids. They were all excited about the five in a row. Had it been Clare kids they'd be excited about winning the Munster title. As for owing us one, therein lies the Clare problem. Ye want to 'owe Limerick one' as opposed to winning for yourselves. Clare have a brilliant team. But as Donal Og said last night your record in Munster finals is poor. Can ye raise the game for other teams apart from Limerick? Perhaps focusing on where this game was lost and improving on those points makes more sense than kids invading the pitch, frees not given or owing Limerick one." Exactly Slayer. This Limerick team has contested twelve Finals and won all twelve. No dis grace to lose to them, but it is best to focus on your own teams mistakes rather than passing begrudging remarks about the victorious opposition. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4493 - 12/06/2023 22:48:10 2486073 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "You compared them to the 4 in a row KK team in your original post, which is a very high bar for any county to be compared to, with the possible exception of the current Limerick team." You're not reading between the lines here. Many are saying Limerick are on their way to being the greatest that ever played the game and given it's the same players since 2018 mostly then maybe they have a point. My point is that this Kk team is no where near there 2008!team yet are competing at the very top so maybe this era isn't as strong as we think it is Anyway I'll leave it at that. I'm not going to waffle on about my point any longer or I'll offend limerick fans as well! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/06/2023 22:57:12 2486075 Link
Replying To katser: "Only for the soft frees Clare no 17 not able for it the limrik yokes would be 10pts down! Clare should rain the ball down on M Casey he is a liability!" Would those be 'the Yokes' who contested twelve Finals and won every single one of them. They are outside of the great KK team of the 2000/2015 era, the most successful hurling team, over a six tear period of the past eighty years. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4493 - 12/06/2023 22:57:47 2486076 Link
Replying To mr305: "For all the coverage and attention on the Tony Kelly foul at the end of the Munster final can anybody tell me how the blatant foul on Sean linnane as he tried to rise the ball was missed ? TJ Reid pushed him down in the neck /back so hard that the very top of his helmet went into the ground. No complaints here over the result , the lack of game management/ cuteness is our own fault. Just very surprised I haven't seen one single mention of the foul on Linnane." You're grasping at straws here I seen the highlights again on tg4 and if you saw that last play in an under 8 Blitz you'd turn away An absolute comedy of errors and I'll include TJs attempts in that too. Mcinerney missed hits a ball and then pulls on it and hit a bucket full of clay with the ball about 4 yards. That's not even to start on the efforts of J cooney, P mannion and Murphy (and I'm missing one or two more in that) It was an entertaining game with some fine scores but I doubt too many want to look at that passage of play again. Was absolutely shocking from Galway. They lost their composure against limerick last year and it was even worse this year against Kk. For someone managed by shefflin it's surprising they are really throwing away games by swinging hurls at balls like a young lad picking up a hurl for the first time. That'll offend whoever it offends but I can't see how anyone can disagree with it tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/06/2023 23:04:54 2486077 Link
Replying To mr305: "For all the coverage and attention on the Tony Kelly foul at the end of the Munster final can anybody tell me how the blatant foul on Sean linnane as he tried to rise the ball was missed ? TJ Reid pushed him down in the neck /back so hard that the very top of his helmet went into the ground. No complaints here over the result , the lack of game management/ cuteness is our own fault. Just very surprised I haven't seen one single mention of the foul on Linnane." Non-issue, move on! Just a cursory thump he got that is part n parcel of the rough n tumble nature of the game of hurling. If the pundits were to comment on incidents such as this, the Sunday Game would have to be renamed: The 24-hour Sunday Game! foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2230 - 13/06/2023 04:09:00 2486085 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "You're not reading between the lines here. Many are saying Limerick are on their way to being the greatest that ever played the game and given it's the same players since 2018 mostly then maybe they have a point. My point is that this Kk team is no where near there 2008!team yet are competing at the very top so maybe this era isn't as strong as we think it is Anyway I'll leave it at that. I'm not going to waffle on about my point any longer or I'll offend limerick fans as well!" Fair enough. Just one final thought. You rarely get a poor Kilkenny team. They are usually, fair to middling, good, or very good. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2776 - 13/06/2023 10:05:55 2486099 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "Am I right I thinking Carlow are now the only unbeaten team still left in this year's senior championship?" You're right. It's a shame that the Carlow v Dublin match is not being shown live anywhere. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2776 - 13/06/2023 10:21:48 2486104 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Non-issue, move on! Just a cursory thump he got that is part n parcel of the rough n tumble nature of the game of hurling. If the pundits were to comment on incidents such as this, the Sunday Game would have to be renamed: The 24-hour Sunday Game!" The problem is though that its a one way street, picking out the frees missed caused by Limerick it was the same against Cork where we got very little from the ref over the entire game. Trying to portray the picture that we are getting all the breaks from the officials. I watched the first half of the match back on tv last night and Tom Morrissey was pushed in the back on three occasions and no free given. Cannings analysis of the incident involving Hegarty being fouled and then booked also irked me. No mention of the fact Hegarty was first dragged, then hit with the hurley then pulled while a second Clare player went in on top of him giving him lip while he was getting up. The same Clare player then simulated injury and that he was hurt and Hegarty was duly booked and all the Clare crowd up on the terrace are baying for red.. Also a clear goal scoring chance was stopped and still no booking on the Clare side. Canning said he didn't think it was a red for Hegarty and that was his analysis of the whole incident, no mention of anything on the Clare side. It's almost like other people become invisible when Hegarty is involved and its always about him regardless in the eyes of the officials and the pundits. This needs to be dealt with imo, refs cannot be influenced by biased pundits and social media keyboard warriors and unfair reputations. It should be called as they see it. If the roles were reversed yesterday and Hegarty committed the same foul as was done on him you can be guaranteed he would be immediately booked. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 436 - 13/06/2023 10:26:14 2486105 Link
Can anyone explain the logic of Tipperary vs Offaly being televised, ahead of Carlow v Dublin this weekend? No offense to our friends in Offaly, but surely all known form suggests that Carlow are likely to get closer to Dublin than they are to Tipp? Plus, Carlow won the Joe McDonagh. So you'd think the GAA would favor the champions for TV purposes? I don't understand this selection at all. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 863 - 13/06/2023 10:33:23 2486107 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Can anyone explain the logic of Tipperary vs Offaly being televised, ahead of Carlow v Dublin this weekend? No offense to our friends in Offaly, but surely all known form suggests that Carlow are likely to get closer to Dublin than they are to Tipp? Plus, Carlow won the Joe McDonagh. So you'd think the GAA would favor the champions for TV purposes? I don't understand this selection at all." Tipp are the big draw and realistically the ones many people will want to see . Offaly were a former powerhouse who are slowly getting back so i guess that's why they picked that one. You are right though it should be on GAAGO Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 436 - 13/06/2023 10:46:37 2486114 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Can anyone explain the logic of Tipperary vs Offaly being televised, ahead of Carlow v Dublin this weekend? No offense to our friends in Offaly, but surely all known form suggests that Carlow are likely to get closer to Dublin than they are to Tipp? Plus, Carlow won the Joe McDonagh. So you'd think the GAA would favor the champions for TV purposes? I don't understand this selection at all." I'd imagine some of it is to do with the timing of the games. Tipp/Offaly fits in with their schedule while 5pm is an unusual time and was only decided on yesterday for some reason. Should be a big crowd in Dr. Cullen and while I expect Carlow to put in a strong showing, Dublin will not be taking anything for granted and will be well set up for that and hope to establish an early lead. Could be interesting though if it stays close into the last quarter. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3538 - 13/06/2023 10:51:12 2486116 Link