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Replying To Ban:  "You've just watched that game and that's your contribution here!"
I hardly seen any of the game but I caught that and it was disappointing. We've a real problem with officiating this season and I'm surprised it's not getting highlighted more. Not going to go too much into the Tipp game til I watch it back and I hate giving out about refs but I think some are out of their depth and there's just too much going on in these games for them

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/05/2023 18:25:07    2480106

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Today showed all that's best in Gaa hurling championship..two fantastic and exciting games in Munster which means a straight shoot it between limerick and cork..looking very like a Clare/tipp final..as for leinster,what a result from 16 points down for Westmeath..if Antrim win next week,Wexford are relegated.this kind of stuff can't be written..think Galway/Kilkenny are laughing at Munster counties knocking lumps out of each other.."
We are only relegated if we lose to Kilkenny

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 21/05/2023 18:43:31    2480118

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Today showed all that's best in Gaa hurling championship..two fantastic and exciting games in Munster which means a straight shoot it between limerick and cork..looking very like a Clare/tipp final..as for leinster,what a result from 16 points down for Westmeath..if Antrim win next week,Wexford are relegated.this kind of stuff can't be written..think Galway/Kilkenny are laughing at Munster counties knocking lumps out of each other.."
Well said. Been a long time since a Tipp game has been that nerve wracking.
I thought the younger Tipp players were excellent today especially O'Mara who came of age today along with Kehoe and Morris. I thought O'Connor and Stakelum left everything on the pitch as well but Noel was as good as I've ever seen him.
It says a lot about Limerick tho when plenty went right for Tipp but they could have easily ended up winning it. I thought so many of the limerick lads had poor days at the office. Byrnes had a really good 15 mins but other than that he had an off day by his standards. Hegarty seems totally demoralised this year and Nash also wasn't at his best while Hannon is not as dominant as he was.
When Tom M came on the scene first I never really rated him and thought his shooting let him down but by god he's turned into some player. Gillane is unmarakable with any kind of 50/50 ball as well. Limerick are yet to rediscover their best form and it'll be interesting to see what changes are made the next day. Casey and Lynch I feel are going to find it hard to find form in such a condensed cship but maybe finishing third would be actually ideal for them. Still favs for the All Ireland no doubt but there's finally some bit of hope. From a Tipp point of view the min aim of getting out of Munster has been achieved which is great considering the huge number of injuries in the panel

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/05/2023 19:08:07    2480130

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Today showed all that's best in Gaa hurling championship..two fantastic and exciting games in Munster which means a straight shoot it between limerick and cork..looking very like a Clare/tipp final..as for leinster,what a result from 16 points down for Westmeath..if Antrim win next week,Wexford are relegated.this kind of stuff can't be written..think Galway/Kilkenny are laughing at Munster counties knocking lumps out of each other.."
There really should be four teams from Munster and only two from Leinster get through. The third team in Leinster is way off the pace. As much as I have a soft spot for Dublin hurling they wouldn't put it up to any of the top three in Munster.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2320 - 21/05/2023 19:10:50    2480132

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I hardly seen any of the game but I caught that and it was disappointing. We've a real problem with officiating this season and I'm surprised it's not getting highlighted more. Not going to go too much into the Tipp game til I watch it back and I hate giving out about refs but I think some are out of their depth and there's just too much going on in these games for them"
Yep still can't understand what the free was for at the end. Seen it a couple of times now

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 21/05/2023 19:20:18    2480142

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Well said. Been a long time since a Tipp game has been that nerve wracking.
I thought the younger Tipp players were excellent today especially O'Mara who came of age today along with Kehoe and Morris. I thought O'Connor and Stakelum left everything on the pitch as well but Noel was as good as I've ever seen him.
It says a lot about Limerick tho when plenty went right for Tipp but they could have easily ended up winning it. I thought so many of the limerick lads had poor days at the office. Byrnes had a really good 15 mins but other than that he had an off day by his standards. Hegarty seems totally demoralised this year and Nash also wasn't at his best while Hannon is not as dominant as he was.
When Tom M came on the scene first I never really rated him and thought his shooting let him down but by god he's turned into some player. Gillane is unmarakable with any kind of 50/50 ball as well. Limerick are yet to rediscover their best form and it'll be interesting to see what changes are made the next day. Casey and Lynch I feel are going to find it hard to find form in such a condensed cship but maybe finishing third would be actually ideal for them. Still favs for the All Ireland no doubt but there's finally some bit of hope. From a Tipp point of view the min aim of getting out of Munster has been achieved which is great considering the huge number of injuries in the panel"
I'd agree with all of that

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 21/05/2023 19:41:40    2480148

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Replying To daveboy:  "Yep still can't understand what the free was for at the end. Seen it a couple of times now"
You never can Davey boy!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/05/2023 19:56:16    2480153

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You never can Davey boy!"
It was a poor performance all round from the ref in Thurles today.
Tipp can certainly claim they were the victims of bad calls all day.

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 342 - 21/05/2023 20:18:49    2480166

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "It was a poor performance all round from the ref in Thurles today.
Tipp can certainly claim they were the victims of bad calls all day."
The handpass free given against Morris, i think, was immediately followed by Flanagan executing a similar pass having lost his hurl. And with Stack blind sided. Not the players fault. Impossible rule to enforce really.

Other than that. it's getting very hard to tell what are legitimate from legitimate hits and lads making meals of legitimate ones do not help matters.... And that's not aimed at anyone in particular and its still rare fortunately.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3524 - 21/05/2023 20:39:56    2480175

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You never can Davey boy!"
True :)

There were plenty of bad calls as there always is in hurling matches by the nature of the game. Both supporters will feel aggrieved. I just really can't understand the last one but I'm a limerick man of course. Tipp are back in a competitive place no doubt. The munster final of clare v tipp will be a nice change up if anything. If Limerick get through next Week the longer road might suit them. A few players not quite 100% fit and a few big names off colour right now but they're still a tough team to put away on an off day which today was. 24 scoring chances to tipps 13 in the second half will be where the focus will be for next week. The energy levels increased in second half but they are still not clicking

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 21/05/2023 20:40:30    2480176

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Replying To daveboy:  "True :)

There were plenty of bad calls as there always is in hurling matches by the nature of the game. Both supporters will feel aggrieved. I just really can't understand the last one but I'm a limerick man of course. Tipp are back in a competitive place no doubt. The munster final of clare v tipp will be a nice change up if anything. If Limerick get through next Week the longer road might suit them. A few players not quite 100% fit and a few big names off colour right now but they're still a tough team to put away on an off day which today was. 24 scoring chances to tipps 13 in the second half will be where the focus will be for next week. The energy levels increased in second half but they are still not clicking"
Ya look, as I said I think the referring hasn't been what we'd like to be and I said after the last round that limerick are being referred differently this year but I had my blue and gold glasses on today so I'll rewatch when the dust settles!
Thankfully no big major controversies I think which is a good thing - for a change!

Can go one of two ways for Limerick. I'd imagine there's is a little bit of a concern though that there's probably 3 of your forwards have been below their best for a few games now. As I said I thought Byrnes and Nash had periods today that were not near their level either but I feel they were still getting on loads of ball. I think Limerick will be delighted to finish third and actually avoid the Munster final - but they won't admit that of course!
Have to be happy with Tipp given we came from 6 losses on the bounce - although that's still only one win in 9 too which is is an obvious negative

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/05/2023 21:07:26    2480186

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I hardly seen any of the game but I caught that and it was disappointing. We've a real problem with officiating this season and I'm surprised it's not getting highlighted more. Not going to go too much into the Tipp game til I watch it back and I hate giving out about refs but I think some are out of their depth and there's just too much going on in these games for them"
Gamesmanship, game management or what ever you want to call it is rife. All teams do it. The amount of players with contact lenses these days is staggering..
I though the ref in the Tipp Lim match has a fine game.

What a day of hurling though. What a shame that after next weekend we say goodbye to a top class team for another 8 months.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1468 - 21/05/2023 21:07:56    2480187

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "It was a poor performance all round from the ref in Thurles today.
Tipp can certainly claim they were the victims of bad calls all day."
Well Cathal Barrett should have seen a straight red for a start, as not alone did he pull across Flanagan but he clearly dragged his helmet also. A yellow should have been given at least for a rash and high tackle on Byrnes. The fact is there was bad calls on both sides

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 21/05/2023 23:26:55    2480247

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Replying To Bon:  "There really should be four teams from Munster and only two from Leinster get through. The third team in Leinster is way off the pace. As much as I have a soft spot for Dublin hurling they wouldn't put it up to any of the top three in Munster."
Clare struggled to beat us last year and we finished 3rd in Leinster? Tbh Cork only pulled clear of Antrim in the last few minutes also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 21/05/2023 23:35:07    2480253

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "The handpass free given against Morris, i think, was immediately followed by Flanagan executing a similar pass having lost his hurl. And with Stack blind sided. Not the players fault. Impossible rule to enforce really.

Other than that. it's getting very hard to tell what are legitimate from legitimate hits and lads making meals of legitimate ones do not help matters.... And that's not aimed at anyone in particular and its still rare fortunately."
Did you see the drag on Flanagan's Helmet by Barrett. Why is there not a more severe punishment afterwards for the likes of this carry on. Any incident like this should be cited and revisited with a suitable punishment given. A one match ban is ridiculous.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 22/05/2023 07:19:34    2480269

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You've Casey and English available that didn't start the last day. Tipp have Bonner Maher who wouldn't score if there was no one else on the pitch!
Forde is tipps marquee forward by a distance and a top free taker…of course he's a bigger loss!! Just because Finn is best corner back in the country - Limerick have ready made replacements!
Take any one player out of Limericks team and they'll never equate to the loss the likes of Forde, TK or a prime TJ would be to their counties"
Well a loss of form for the top scorer in three All Ireland Finals in a row and in a twice HOTY would surely come near. Anyway what did Forde do in '21, when the heat came on, or last year against Limerick. He is a fine player, but I think you are over egging it here. As Liam Sheehy said last night Jake Morris got five points play off Mike Casey, but he was held scoreless in the League game by Sean Finn.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 22/05/2023 07:28:47    2480270

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You've Casey and English available that didn't start the last day. Tipp have Bonner Maher who wouldn't score if there was no one else on the pitch!
Forde is tipps marquee forward by a distance and a top free taker…of course he's a bigger loss!! Just because Finn is best corner back in the country - Limerick have ready made replacements!
Take any one player out of Limericks team and they'll never equate to the loss the likes of Forde, TK or a prime TJ would be to their counties"
Well a loss of form for the top scorer in three All Ireland Finals in a row and in a twice HOTY would surely come near. Anyway what did Forde do in '21, when the heat came on, or last year against Limerick. He is a fine player, but I think you are over egging it here. As, your own county man, Liam Sheehy said last night Jake Morris got five points play off Mike Casey, but he was held scoreless in the League game by Sean Finn.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 22/05/2023 07:30:10    2480271

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Ya Kelly did himself no favours. Simulation is becoming a bit synonymous with this Clare panel"
Please back this up with some facts once last year V Limerick in Ennis which was well called out by Clare Fans

In 10 years of Senior hurling TK has never been known for this he gave away a free when he got up took a belt to head far too much of this now in Rugby which is professional you would have been red carded.

Magnificent afternoon of hurling if that's all you can take from it but i would not expect anything else from this poster

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 985 - 22/05/2023 08:23:06    2480281

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Tiobraid, it might be the case that Limerick would have a softer path via quarter final - be Dublin/Offaly /Carlow, but they will have to earn that on the pitch next week.

Some people were questioning Cork's alleged "soft centre," well they've proven in all their games so far that they are far from being soft and well capable of beating Limerick on form to date.

That's the game of the week and i reckon myself and not a few Dublin hurling supporters will be retiring to the bar to watch that instead of our footballers after we beat Galway in the first game :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3524 - 22/05/2023 08:31:04    2480286

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well a loss of form for the top scorer in three All Ireland Finals in a row and in a twice HOTY would surely come near. Anyway what did Forde do in '21, when the heat came on, or last year against Limerick. He is a fine player, but I think you are over egging it here. As, your own county man, Liam Sheehy said last night Jake Morris got five points play off Mike Casey, but he was held scoreless in the League game by Sean Finn."
Finn is a massive loss will be a classic next week in Ennis Road a really great Munster championship again.

Beware Cork on Sunday they are not too far off top Limerick look a little tired at times hard to keep it up I suppose but i expect Limerick to prevail after a titanic struggle

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 985 - 22/05/2023 09:57:44    2480324

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