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Saturday Game panelists suggested Shane Walsh potentially deserved black card for verbal abuse towards ref. Did I misinterpret the analysis? This verbal abuse did not happen, he pointed at his jaw to highlight Glynn injury. There is no way the panelists could substantiate that false pretext for imaginary black card. They had sour grapes with result but Lee did wear a nice Galway top at least.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1736 - 21/05/2023 12:12:39    2479933

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Does the group winner take the provincial seeding through to semi finals?

If Mayo top Kerrys group and Galway win their group, are Mayo and Galway seeded to meet in the semis?"
Semi final should be Munster v Connacht,Ulster v Leinster

Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 196 - 21/05/2023 12:22:37    2479937

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I think that Tyrone and Galway could have been a lot closer yesterday evening but for some very dodgy calls by the referee. The red card was fair. Burns put up his hands at once. He knew he made a wrong decision but after that things went downhill for Tyrone as the referee was very biased. Tyrone got nothing wheres Galway got away with everything.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 910 - 21/05/2023 21:17:26    2480190

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Replying To endgame:  "The Big Smoke didn't exactly hit it out of the park when scraping by Kildare with 2 points to spare. Louth were so open that a fleet of buses could have driven through their defence. So hard to know yet where Dublin are at. In a sense, the serious action only starts when we finally get to knock out games and then we'll see who has what. I do think though that Galway will come very close this year and may end their and Connacht's 22 year drought. Mayo were being talked up after the League but Roscommon outplayed them in Castlebar and more talk of Mayo now after Killarney but Kerry seemed very flat bar the always outstanding David Clifford."
Bob Toughy wasn't on the panel that day Callihan didn't get off the bench. It was clear the management was not pushed at all about winning that game against Roscommon.

Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 59 - 21/05/2023 22:35:31    2480223

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Replying To border Gael:  "I think that Tyrone and Galway could have been a lot closer yesterday evening but for some very dodgy calls by the referee. The red card was fair. Burns put up his hands at once. He knew he made a wrong decision but after that things went downhill for Tyrone as the referee was very biased. Tyrone got nothing wheres Galway got away with everything."
The 'nothing' Tyrone got from the ref, did include an incredibly soft free in the second half, where the Tyrone forward jumped into the tackler in front of him. Gough as a ref has his style. Any mouthing and you'll be penalised every time. A defender interfering with the run of a forward off the ball is another one he looks for regularly. At the same time, he lets a lot of borderline tackling go. Players should be well aware at this stage.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2321 - 21/05/2023 23:14:50    2480241

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Replying To Fkd12:  "Semi final should be Munster v Connacht,Ulster v Leinster"
https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-master-fixtures-for-2023-published/

The GAA master fixture list suggests that QFs and SFs will be a draw.



Quarter-Finals
01-02.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary
Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial
Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.
Semi-Finals
15-16.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Two Games)
The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a
draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 216 - 22/05/2023 09:14:40    2480303

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Does the group winner take the provincial seeding through to semi finals?

If Mayo top Kerrys group and Galway win their group, are Mayo and Galway seeded to meet in the semis?"
Great question . For all the communication about the championship its very hard to find any detail about what happens after the group stages. Yes it is clear that a third place plays a second place in a prelim QF with the winners playing a first place in a QF proper. But after that it's anybody's guess.
1. Is there a draw to decide which 3rd places play 2nd places or is it pre-ordained by the groups?
2. Are these prelim QFs at neutral venues or does second place have home advantage
3. Same 2 questions re QFs ( although assumption is these games are in CP)
4. Are repeat fixtures avoided where possible?
5. Does the traditional semi final match up of provinces ( Munster v Connaught this year) apply and if so what happens if these champions get through but not as table toppers .. Is that slot taken by the team that tops their group?

I hope I'm wrong and that someone can tell me that these decisions are published somewhere

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 22/05/2023 09:19:29    2480307

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Replying To border Gael:  "I think that Tyrone and Galway could have been a lot closer yesterday evening but for some very dodgy calls by the referee. The red card was fair. Burns put up his hands at once. He knew he made a wrong decision but after that things went downhill for Tyrone as the referee was very biased. Tyrone got nothing wheres Galway got away with everything."
Morgan tackle on Heaney was a red all day, no card given. Keepers get away with stuff. Galway were better and would have upped their game if necessary. Dublin, Kerry, Mayo are the the competition really when push comes to shove.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 22/05/2023 10:12:38    2480337

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Great question . For all the communication about the championship its very hard to find any detail about what happens after the group stages. Yes it is clear that a third place plays a second place in a prelim QF with the winners playing a first place in a QF proper. But after that it's anybody's guess.
1. Is there a draw to decide which 3rd places play 2nd places or is it pre-ordained by the groups?
2. Are these prelim QFs at neutral venues or does second place have home advantage
3. Same 2 questions re QFs ( although assumption is these games are in CP)
4. Are repeat fixtures avoided where possible?
5. Does the traditional semi final match up of provinces ( Munster v Connaught this year) apply and if so what happens if these champions get through but not as table toppers .. Is that slot taken by the team that tops their group?

I hope I'm wrong and that someone can tell me that these decisions are published somewhere"
Good questions

1- Not sure if there is a draw of the pre lims are pre ordained by group(ie 2nd in Group One plays 3rd in Group Two and vice versa). Trying to clarify same for Tailteann Cup

2- Prelims are home fixtures for the second place teams( same applies in TC)

3- Quarter Finals - 99% Sure be double headers in Croke Park. This wont be case in TC, which last year was home based on draw, is this the same this year?

4- Repeat fixtures are avoided where possible

5- Yes think they applying the provincial match ups, id say they hadnt though of possibility of provincial winner not topping a group but assume they will allow whoever tops group to take that place.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1166 - 22/05/2023 10:41:57    2480367

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Great question . For all the communication about the championship its very hard to find any detail about what happens after the group stages. Yes it is clear that a third place plays a second place in a prelim QF with the winners playing a first place in a QF proper. But after that it's anybody's guess.
1. Is there a draw to decide which 3rd places play 2nd places or is it pre-ordained by the groups?
2. Are these prelim QFs at neutral venues or does second place have home advantage
3. Same 2 questions re QFs ( although assumption is these games are in CP)
4. Are repeat fixtures avoided where possible?
5. Does the traditional semi final match up of provinces ( Munster v Connaught this year) apply and if so what happens if these champions get through but not as table toppers .. Is that slot taken by the team that tops their group?

I hope I'm wrong and that someone can tell me that these decisions are published somewhere"
All the official GAA website says is 1. Preliminary QFs will be between 2nd and 3rd placed teams with 2nd placed team at home. Repeat provincial final pairings will be avoided and where possible repeat pairings from the group stage will also be avoided. 2. The QF draw will similarly avoid provincial final pairings and group stage pairings where possible. Venues TBC.
No mention of traditional provincial rotation for the semis.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 890 - 22/05/2023 10:42:54    2480368

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Replying To border Gael:  "I think that Tyrone and Galway could have been a lot closer yesterday evening but for some very dodgy calls by the referee. The red card was fair. Burns put up his hands at once. He knew he made a wrong decision but after that things went downhill for Tyrone as the referee was very biased. Tyrone got nothing wheres Galway got away with everything."
To be fair, Galway were pulled on two body blocks, which are fouls but Gough is the first ref I've seen this year even pull anyone on it.

Not the first time I've been disappointed with Gough over some of his interpretations.

systematic (Galway) - Posts: 158 - 22/05/2023 19:21:55    2480682

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Clifford is just unbelievable. The best player in the country by some distance.

Great win for Mayo. Fair play to get a win in Killarney."
It was a great result

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8751 - 22/05/2023 23:42:10    2480721

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Replying To sligo joe:  "I suppose the problem for Kerry is that Clifford played really well today and they still lost by 5. What happens if he has an off-day (unlikely I know), or if he gets injured."
Well exactly!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8751 - 22/05/2023 23:42:43    2480722

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "Why were Kerry in navy today?"
Trying to look like the Dubs, but just coming up short :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8751 - 22/05/2023 23:45:22    2480723

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Replying To endgame:  "The Big Smoke didn't exactly hit it out of the park when scraping by Kildare with 2 points to spare. Louth were so open that a fleet of buses could have driven through their defence. So hard to know yet where Dublin are at. In a sense, the serious action only starts when we finally get to knock out games and then we'll see who has what. I do think though that Galway will come very close this year and may end their and Connacht's 22 year drought. Mayo were being talked up after the League but Roscommon outplayed them in Castlebar and more talk of Mayo now after Killarney but Kerry seemed very flat bar the always outstanding David Clifford."
You say Kerry seemed very flat against Mayo and that's the excuse and it's partially the reason Kerry lost. Mayo were also very flat against Roscommon a week after winning the league title.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11563 - 23/05/2023 09:57:30    2480759

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Great win for Mayo

Beating Kerry in the Championship is always an impressive feat, but to easily dispatch of them in their own back garden, that's another thing.

Quality result.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 23/05/2023 10:09:30    2480767

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Mayo were poo pooed at bit for suggesting that getting beaten early in Connacht could be of benefit to them. Going by Saturday it clearly was. 6 week break, players with two weeks off, training camp abroad, challenges, loads of time to work on things. They are likely to top the group now and go straight into a quater final and gaining another little break before that.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 23/05/2023 12:36:32    2480861

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Prediction from here on

Group 1
1 Mayo
2 Kerry
3 Louth
4 Cork

Group 2
1 Galway
2 Armagh
3 Tyrone
4 Westmeath

Group 3
1 Dublin
2 Roscommon
3 Kildare
2 Sligo

Group 4
1 Derry
2 Monaghan
3 Donegal
4 Clare


Prelim round

Monaghan v Kildare
Kerry v Donegal
Roscommon v Tyrone
Armagh v Louth

Q finals
Mayo v Monaghan
Galway v Armagh
Dublin v Tyrone
Derry v Kerry

Semi
Mayo v Galway
Dublin v Kerry

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1383 - 24/05/2023 04:39:20    2481113

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Prediction from here on

Group 1
1 Mayo
2 Kerry
3 Louth
4 Cork

Group 2
1 Galway
2 Armagh
3 Tyrone
4 Westmeath

Group 3
1 Dublin
2 Roscommon
3 Kildare
2 Sligo

Group 4
1 Derry
2 Monaghan
3 Donegal
4 Clare


Prelim round

Monaghan v Kildare
Kerry v Donegal
Roscommon v Tyrone
Armagh v Louth

Q finals
Mayo v Monaghan
Galway v Armagh
Dublin v Tyrone
Derry v Kerry

Semi
Mayo v Galway
Dublin v Kerry"
keep it going

armaghfan02 (Armagh) - Posts: 39 - 24/05/2023 11:20:06    2481184

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Replying To armaghfan02:  "keep it going"
You know the answer.

It's calling to you.

Can you hear it.

Go to that quiet place in your mind.

It starts really low but give it a minute.

Now here it comes

Mayo For Sam

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1383 - 25/05/2023 16:44:59    2481578

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