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Fair play to both teams on playing one of the best games I've watched from ulster..does the defeat make any great difference to Tyrone?they will still be in a group of 4 with 3 getting out so they'll still make a quarter final..it also means they can take it handy now for a couple of weeks..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2510 - 16/04/2023 20:08:02    2471265

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Replying To artisan:  "A fantastic game. Fair play to O'Toole in going for that goal at the death. I suspect most would have fisted that over the bar to take the game to ET."
Agreed. He showed no hesitation and went for the jugular. I'll be honest, I expected him to punch it over. He had a very food game in general.
It was an excellent game of football too. Loads ball kicked into the inside line by both sides and plenty attacking at pace. We saw very little of the slow lateral handpassing over and back, that's so prevalent in other games these says.
A great advert for Ulster football.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2321 - 16/04/2023 20:22:17    2471272

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Agreed. He showed no hesitation and went for the jugular. I'll be honest, I expected him to punch it over. He had a very food game in general.
It was an excellent game of football too. Loads ball kicked into the inside line by both sides and plenty attacking at pace. We saw very little of the slow lateral handpassing over and back, that's so prevalent in other games these says.
A great advert for Ulster football."
Honestly thought he would score a point for the draw and to be honest would have loved another 20 minutes football. Looking back he was right to go for the jugular as they might have faded in extra time. Hope they go on to win Ulster.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2292 - 16/04/2023 21:30:36    2471283

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Fair play to both teams on playing one of the best games I've watched from ulster..does the defeat make any great difference to Tyrone?they will still be in a group of 4 with 3 getting out so they'll still make a quarter final..it also means they can take it handy now for a couple of weeks.."
Was just thinking the very same. Only downside, apart from losing obviously!, is that teams other than provincial winners and finalists have better chance of being in a tough group. Although it is difficult to imagine that Mayo and Tyrone will not at the very least still qualify for a preliminary quarter final place.


The value of winning a province is increasingly less. And despite the veneer of giving weaker teams a second chance it obviously benefits the stronger teams, assuming they do no implode after one defeat/

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3523 - 16/04/2023 21:33:27    2471284

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Fair play to both teams on playing one of the best games I've watched from ulster..does the defeat make any great difference to Tyrone?they will still be in a group of 4 with 3 getting out so they'll still make a quarter final..it also means they can take it handy now for a couple of weeks.."
I agree with one qualification. It was one of the best games ive watched, full stop. ...no need to add the "from ulster" bit.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 16/04/2023 21:40:59    2471286

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "Hard to understand all the talk around problems with the split season at this stage.

In the first year of it the vast majority of complaints against it came from people with a vested interest in it. Columnists and pundits were the loudest critics but obviously it was nothing to do with the fact they had a shorter window to work in...

Clubs and club footballers have been getting shafted for years, the split season is a way of helping them.

Club championships last year were for the most part played in better weather, in better conditions, on better quality pitches and had bigger attendances than before. Win win for clubs and their players. Win win for county boards with higher ticket income and a great opportunity to stream games online to a wider audience too.

There's a significant majority of players, both intercounty and club only who are in favour of the split season, to the point that it's hard to see how it could be reversed at this stage.

The only ones who are against it at this stage it seems are either worried they'll lose a bit of easy work over the summer from it, or else have some fictitious fear that the organisers of the Superbowl, Masters and Olympics are suddenly going to spot a gap in the market to take advantage of the All Ireland finals not being played in September anymore."
Great game of football in Ulster. Glad to see it. I do think the overly defensive/hand pass heavy view on Ulster football is getting more outdated. Donegal football is and always has been hand pass heavy and it's part of their footballing culture and is likely to remain so. The rest of Ulster is just very pragmatic and the game is moving on such that at the top level fluting around with hand passing isn't going to get a team winning Sam. It's important to work the ball to good scoring positions but it's also very important to be under less pressure when taking a shot so it pays to play fast too.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4524 - 17/04/2023 11:05:22    2471324

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Replying To SignTheContract:  "The biggest problem with the new system will be highlighted when the Ulster and Leinster provincial finalists have to play maybe 5 out 6 weeks in a row and then play a quarter final against a team that had a 2 week break! There could be some hammerings
dished out in the QFs"
No team will have to play more than 3 weeks in a row (for clarity after the Provincial Finals).

The Leinster/ Ulster Winners are at a slight disadvantage as they will have to play all 3 RR games on successive weekends - compared to the Munster/Connacht Winners who have a 2 week break between RR1 and RR2.

The Leinster/Ulster Runners-up may, depending on the draw, be at a disadvantage in having only a 1 week break between the provincial Final and RR1.

Of course the 4 teams who qualify directly for the QFs will have an advantage (2 week break) over the 8 teams (1 week break) who come through the qualifiers.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 335 - 17/04/2023 11:35:32    2471339

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Any club I'm speaking to are totally against the current set up. The players are heading off from June July. So they don't have them. One said at least before split season lads would be available for club once championship over for the county as they wouldn't have made plans to go abroad"
I'm hearing the opposite with nearly every club player I know in favour, maybe a little tweaking but at least you know when you're playing now.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 17/04/2023 11:48:58    2471347

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Any club I'm speaking to are totally against the current set up. The players are heading off from June July. So they don't have them. One said at least before split season lads would be available for club once championship over for the county as they wouldn't have made plans to go abroad"
total rubbish. i think [am sure ] u are only getting in to conversation with lads U KNOW agree with your thinking, , your mind is made u and u only talk to lads who have the very same narrow line of thinking

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2973 - 21/04/2023 08:52:25    2472075

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Ulster SFC quarter-final
Down v Donegal, Páirc Esler, 2pm - BBC Sport NI

Connacht SFC semi-final
Roscommon v Galway, Dr Hyde Park, 4pm - RTÉ2

Leinster SFC quarter-finals
Westmeath v Louth, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm
Kildare v Wicklow, Netwatch Cullen Park, 2.30pm
Laois v Dublin, Laois Hire O'Moore Park, 3.30pm - GAAGO
Offaly v Meath, Glenisk O'Connor Park, 4pm

Ulster and Connacht have the stand out games today. It'll be interesting to see how Roscommon and Galway are progressing. Donegal have been in turmoil. Can they turn it around or can Down take advantage?

Westmeath v Louth is the standout in Leinster. Westmeath already qualified. Can they build on their Tailteann success? Louth are the second ranked Leinster county from the league.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8787 - 23/04/2023 12:11:35    2472681

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Hoping for Down win but it wouldn't surprise me if Donegal got to the Ulster final against Derry again.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 263 - 23/04/2023 12:50:31    2472701

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Ulster SFC quarter-final
Down 2-13 Donegal 1-11, Páirc Esler FT

Fair play to Down. Big win for them.

Leinster SFC quarter-finals
Westmeath 1-11 Louth 2-10, Pairc Tailteann FT

A close match going by the reports. Louth maintain their recent good progress.

Donegal and Westmeath will be 4th seeds.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8787 - 23/04/2023 15:57:57    2472771

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Connacht SFC semi-final
Roscommon 1-9 Galway 1-13, Dr Hyde Park FT

Leinster SFC quarter-finals
Westmeath 1-11 Louth 2-10, Pairc Tailteann FT
Kildare 1-17 Wicklow 0-10, Netwatch Cullen Park FT
Laois 2-9 Dublin 4-30, Laois Hire O'Moore Park FT
Offaly 1-11 Meath 0-10, Glenisk O'Connor Park FT

Ulster SFC quarter-final
Down 2-13 Donegal 1-11, Páirc Esler FT

Meath have qualified for the Tailteann Cup. Offaly and Down are still in the All-Ireland hunt. Louth, Cork and Kildare are still sweating over qualification.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8787 - 23/04/2023 18:10:32    2472838

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Hoping for Down win but it wouldn't surprise me if Donegal got to the Ulster final against Derry again."
Hopefully it's not Derry in it. Bit of ball to play before we see who is there yet.
I would be happy with a Monaghan v anyone final

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 300 - 23/04/2023 18:17:43    2472847

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Dubs already looking awesome. And it is only April.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 23/04/2023 18:25:37    2472856

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Things have got slightly clearer this weekend around who will be competing in what competition. So if I am not mistaken the following will definitely compete for the Sam Maguire:

Mayo
Kerry
Galway
Roscommon
Tyrone
Donegal
Monaghan
Dublin
Derry
Louth
Armagh
Clare
Sligo
Westmeath
More than likely you can throw Cork and Kildare in there too but that is not a done deal yet.

Tailteann Cup looks like:

Limerick
Meath
Fermanagh
Antrim
Cavan
Carlow
Tipperary
Waterford
Leitrim
New York(at preliminary QF stage)
London
Longford
Wexford
Wicklow
Laois

More than likely Offaly and Down unless one of them turns over Louth or Armagh or both in which case Kildare and Cork drop to the Tailteann.

Both competitions look very competitive and I hope that the teams in the Tailteann give it the respect it deserves. We saw in Mullingar last year that if you get good buy in particularly from the young people then it is a competition that can bring a lot of joy.

The Sam Maguire is looking at its most open in over ten years- maybe since 2010 when Cork and Down made the final. It is there for a team to take it by the scruff of the neck.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 212 - 23/04/2023 18:37:57    2472865

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Connacht SFC semi-final
Roscommon 1-9 Galway 1-13, Dr Hyde Park FT

Leinster SFC quarter-finals
Westmeath 1-11 Louth 2-10, Pairc Tailteann FT
Kildare 1-17 Wicklow 0-10, Netwatch Cullen Park FT
Laois 2-9 Dublin 4-30, Laois Hire O'Moore Park FT
Offaly 1-11 Meath 0-10, Glenisk O'Connor Park FT

Ulster SFC quarter-final
Down 2-13 Donegal 1-11, Páirc Esler FT

Meath have qualified for the Tailteann Cup. Offaly and Down are still in the All-Ireland hunt. Louth, Cork and Kildare are still sweating over qualification."
Sad to see Meath fall so low. They were 8/9 down at one stage I checked but must have staged a bit of a fight back. I'd imagine O'Rourke may be regretting he took the job after all. They are as bad a Meath team as any time in 60 years.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3523 - 23/04/2023 18:41:40    2472868

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Hoping for Down win but it wouldn't surprise me if Donegal got to the Ulster final against Derry again."
I'd give Derry the All Ireland now and get the club football going.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2292 - 23/04/2023 20:02:41    2472908

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "
Replying To legendzxix:  "Connacht SFC semi-final
Roscommon 1-9 Galway 1-13, Dr Hyde Park FT

Leinster SFC quarter-finals
Westmeath 1-11 Louth 2-10, Pairc Tailteann FT
Kildare 1-17 Wicklow 0-10, Netwatch Cullen Park FT
Laois 2-9 Dublin 4-30, Laois Hire O'Moore Park FT
Offaly 1-11 Meath 0-10, Glenisk O'Connor Park FT

Ulster SFC quarter-final
Down 2-13 Donegal 1-11, Páirc Esler FT

Meath have qualified for the Tailteann Cup. Offaly and Down are still in the All-Ireland hunt. Louth, Cork and Kildare are still sweating over qualification."
Sad to see Meath fall so low. They were 8/9 down at one stage I checked but must have staged a bit of a fight back. I'd imagine O'Rourke may be regretting he took the job after all. They are as bad a Meath team as any time in 60 years."
Gas the way there's no credit for Offaly beaten Meath, it's all about how sad for Meath. Is it a major surprise that Offaly won? 2019 Meath needed a goal in the dying minutes to beat Offaly, O Rourke getting a lot of stick for taking the job , Meath haven't been at the top table for 20+ years.

ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 214 - 23/04/2023 21:03:36    2472957

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If Galway, Derry, Dublin and Kerry retain their titles, the seedings will be as follows:
1. Galway, Kerry, Dublin, Derry
2. Armagh^, Louth^, Clare, Sligo
3. Mayo, Roscommon, Tyrone, Monaghan
4. Donegal, Cork*, Kildare*, Westmeath
* Down and Offaly could yet knockout Kildare and Cork. ^ Armagh and Louth will be Seed 4 if they lose their semi-final.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8787 - 23/04/2023 21:05:01    2472958

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