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Cian Byrne younger brother has the potential to be really top quality. Excellent player, hope things work out for him and he fulfils his potential. Is big Joe Coleman an option?
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Whoever the freetaker #2 is he needs to contribute more than frees, the era of having a lad there who takes frees and contributes nothing else is gone.
Re the players dropped, I heard (2nd/3rd hand though) some of these players "just didn't want to give it".
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Why was the combined schools dropped?
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Why was the combined schools dropped?" Heard different reasons. Schools not wanting to be without players. Funding and proper support from the CB. They were the main two.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16686 - 09/02/2023 16:23:08
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UCD have 4 Wexford lads on the panel though none starting I think. Hillis from Barntown, Codd from Martins, Walsh from Harriers and Ryan from Anne's.
SETU Carlow have Lawlor named to start in goal, Paudie Casey from Oylegate named cornerback. Adam Howlin from Shels and Daire Swords from Oulart not starting.
Think that's all from Wexford tonight.
All 3 QFs can be watched on YouTube I believe.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16686 - 09/02/2023 17:02:20
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Whoever the freetaker #2 is he needs to contribute more than frees, the era of having a lad there who takes frees and contributes nothing else is gone.
Re the players dropped, I heard (2nd/3rd hand though) some of these players "just didn't want to give it"." Well I would take a realisable free taker scoring them all and doing little from play than what we were left with it on Saturday against Galway as we had lads doing nothing and missing the frees at the same time!
I have heard Coleman, Mike Kelly and 3/4 others have been released from the panel. I can't remember the other 3/4 hence not naming them.
Liam Ryan's injury will be a big loss. We are already down Hanlon and with Paudie away this year we have lost our 3 biggest defenders - and as we know with the opposition we have to play physicality will be huge, especially against Limerick and Clare. Hopefully him and Hanlon are not long term. Hard to know who will go in full back in his place, perhaps Shane Reck. All our current injuries seem to be our bigger men, which we are in short supply of already!
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Why was the combined schools dropped?" Covid hit in '20 and think that was that. They had a team entered that year. Offaly schools have a team in Leinster'A this year and were going well the last I saw.
It's been a very disappointing year for the individual Wexford schools which isn't a good reflection of the standard of underage. Don't think any of the schools got past the preliminary quarter finals in the Leinster senior 'B' .
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James Lawlor playing for IT Carlow so obviously injury is nothing serious.
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Replying To beano: "One anomaly us as supporters must stop using as an excuse for last year is the fact we were down Pepper for the under-20s. Kilkenny were affected far worse than us, were missing Shine (who'd be further along his development than Pepper) among others. Limerick lost Cian O'Neill, I believe Galway were short some lads as well. That rule is the most ridiculous thing that the GAA have ever introduced, which is saying something, and hopefully common sense will prevail this year, but Wexford weren't victimised by it last year more than anyone else- twas just another game in our 'could have won' category.
I always feel in Wexford that we are too late to get with the times. Introducing a strength and conditioning programme now is a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic- we are already playing catch-up. It isn't necessarily about height either as for all the talk about Jacko, McGuckin is probably our best fielder on the half-forward line and would have better work-rate. It was mentioned on the Wexford Hurling podcast this week that Collins from Galway and Drennan from Kilkenny have both gained a few KGs in the last six months. I think we put too much stock in lads getting on development squads, which become too large- chaps outside the best 24 happy enough to get the gear, the training in the COE but maybe aren't doing enough actual hurling and are denied access to their clubs as the county manager is autocratic. We were too quick to abandon the combined schools programme.
On the field, and it was referred to in this week's match report in the paper, we are still far too one dimensional in our stick passing, especially when it comes to Mac. How many times do you see Limerick launch aimless balls on top of Flanagan, who'd get the same attention as Mac? Never happens, because virtually every ball is angled low, allowing Flanagan and Gillane to run onto it and do damage. I know they are the masters, but why not aspire to be like them? I know Kilkenny were probably accused of being too old-school in the latter Cody years, but at least their forwards were able to win their own ball aerially, probably because they have the basics spot on. I doubt they have bulky development squads there with more cones than the ice-cream shop down in Kilmore Quay.
On the free-taking issue, I would 100% accommodate Banville at this stage, and have the front six as: Chin-Dwyer-McGuckin- ROC-McDonald-Banville." 100% this carry on of having c.50 lads on development panels needs to be cut and autocratic managers dictating what these lads can and can't do!
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1537 - 09/02/2023 19:26:13
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "Covid hit in '20 and think that was that. They had a team entered that year. Offaly schools have a team in Leinster'A this year and were going well the last I saw.
It's been a very disappointing year for the individual Wexford schools which isn't a good reflection of the standard of underage. Don't think any of the schools got past the preliminary quarter finals in the Leinster senior 'B' ." Offaly Schools beat St Kieran's College by 2 points in the Leinster Senior Hurling 'A' final last Saturday in Nowlan Park. But, that is the end of their campaign. They can't compete in the All-Ireland series. Whereas, Kieran's have an All-Ireland quarter-final with St Raphael's of Loughrea on Saturday week to look forward to.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 09/02/2023 21:45:29
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Replying To Wally2496: "Well I would take a realisable free taker scoring them all and doing little from play than what we were left with it on Saturday against Galway as we had lads doing nothing and missing the frees at the same time!
I have heard Coleman, Mike Kelly and 3/4 others have been released from the panel. I can't remember the other 3/4 hence not naming them.
Liam Ryan's injury will be a big loss. We are already down Hanlon and with Paudie away this year we have lost our 3 biggest defenders - and as we know with the opposition we have to play physicality will be huge, especially against Limerick and Clare. Hopefully him and Hanlon are not long term. Hard to know who will go in full back in his place, perhaps Shane Reck. All our current injuries seem to be our bigger men, which we are in short supply of already!" I heard Coleman is still in the panel but 2nd hand info.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 09/02/2023 21:53:56
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Replying To beano: "One anomaly us as supporters must stop using as an excuse for last year is the fact we were down Pepper for the under-20s. Kilkenny were affected far worse than us, were missing Shine (who'd be further along his development than Pepper) among others. Limerick lost Cian O'Neill, I believe Galway were short some lads as well. That rule is the most ridiculous thing that the GAA have ever introduced, which is saying something, and hopefully common sense will prevail this year, but Wexford weren't victimised by it last year more than anyone else- twas just another game in our 'could have won' category.
I always feel in Wexford that we are too late to get with the times. Introducing a strength and conditioning programme now is a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic- we are already playing catch-up. It isn't necessarily about height either as for all the talk about Jacko, McGuckin is probably our best fielder on the half-forward line and would have better work-rate. It was mentioned on the Wexford Hurling podcast this week that Collins from Galway and Drennan from Kilkenny have both gained a few KGs in the last six months. I think we put too much stock in lads getting on development squads, which become too large- chaps outside the best 24 happy enough to get the gear, the training in the COE but maybe aren't doing enough actual hurling and are denied access to their clubs as the county manager is autocratic. We were too quick to abandon the combined schools programme.
On the field, and it was referred to in this week's match report in the paper, we are still far too one dimensional in our stick passing, especially when it comes to Mac. How many times do you see Limerick launch aimless balls on top of Flanagan, who'd get the same attention as Mac? Never happens, because virtually every ball is angled low, allowing Flanagan and Gillane to run onto it and do damage. I know they are the masters, but why not aspire to be like them? I know Kilkenny were probably accused of being too old-school in the latter Cody years, but at least their forwards were able to win their own ball aerially, probably because they have the basics spot on. I doubt they have bulky development squads there with more cones than the ice-cream shop down in Kilmore Quay.
On the free-taking issue, I would 100% accommodate Banville at this stage, and have the front six as: Chin-Dwyer-McGuckin- ROC-McDonald-Banville." Flanagan is a lot quicker than Conor. If Conor Mac had a yard more speed i fully believe he'd be as good a hurler in the country
LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 10/02/2023 09:09:57
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The well used words ' Banana skin' are appropriate about Sundays game against Westmeath. It's a must win game for us as the rest of the league games will be very tough to put it mildly.
With jippo gone, there will be gaping holes in our defence. Hopefully it can be patched up successfully. Perhaps Shane Reck can fill the gap with Donohoe and Devit on either side of him. Maybe Jacko and Chinner will start or be introduced at some stage. Westmeath will be hurting after they were humiliated by Clare last week and will be anxious to do well on their own ground. We won't be complacent like we were last year. They will be targeting Wexford and they will not fear us.
Put quite simply, we must avail of scoring opportunities and not leave them in the game with 15 minutes left.
Egan will no doubt pick a strong side, knowing that a loss would make it difficult to survive in the top flight.
Yes of course the championship is the big one but to get some good results in the next couple of weeks is important and would boost morale.
Big games needed by Mac, Dee, Damien Reck Kevin Foley.
Let's hope our shooting improves and silly frees are not given away.
Verdict- 7 point win for Wexford.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Offaly Schools beat St Kieran's College by 2 points in the Leinster Senior Hurling 'A' final last Saturday in Nowlan Park. But, that is the end of their campaign. They can't compete in the All-Ireland series. Whereas, Kieran's have an All-Ireland quarter-final with St Raphael's of Loughrea on Saturday week to look forward to." Same as Dublin Schools North and South.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16686 - 10/02/2023 09:42:17
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "I heard Coleman is still in the panel but 2nd hand info." Yes
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16686 - 10/02/2023 09:42:50
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Replying To LarryOBrother: "Flanagan is a lot quicker than Conor. If Conor Mac had a yard more speed i fully believe he'd be as good a hurler in the country" Yes for sure. And if he gets his intensity and workrate up, as he does sometimes in some games, hes as effective as any other forward.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16686 - 10/02/2023 09:45:02
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Replying To Magpie2: "The well used words ' Banana skin' are appropriate about Sundays game against Westmeath. It's a must win game for us as the rest of the league games will be very tough to put it mildly.
With jippo gone, there will be gaping holes in our defence. Hopefully it can be patched up successfully. Perhaps Shane Reck can fill the gap with Donohoe and Devit on either side of him. Maybe Jacko and Chinner will start or be introduced at some stage. Westmeath will be hurting after they were humiliated by Clare last week and will be anxious to do well on their own ground. We won't be complacent like we were last year. They will be targeting Wexford and they will not fear us.
Put quite simply, we must avail of scoring opportunities and not leave them in the game with 15 minutes left.
Egan will no doubt pick a strong side, knowing that a loss would make it difficult to survive in the top flight.
Yes of course the championship is the big one but to get some good results in the next couple of weeks is important and would boost morale.
Big games needed by Mac, Dee, Damien Reck Kevin Foley.
Let's hope our shooting improves and silly frees are not given away.
Verdict- 7 point win for Wexford." Maybe Niall Murphy or David Clarke instead of Jippo. Both are fullbacks. Agree Westmeath will be targeting this game. And I wouldn't be underestimating them. They were well in the game against Clare until the 2 quick goals before halftime.
Looking forward to it there should be a good atmosphere there too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16686 - 10/02/2023 09:50:25
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Replying To Magpie2: "The well used words ' Banana skin' are appropriate about Sundays game against Westmeath. It's a must win game for us as the rest of the league games will be very tough to put it mildly.
With jippo gone, there will be gaping holes in our defence. Hopefully it can be patched up successfully. Perhaps Shane Reck can fill the gap with Donohoe and Devit on either side of him. Maybe Jacko and Chinner will start or be introduced at some stage. Westmeath will be hurting after they were humiliated by Clare last week and will be anxious to do well on their own ground. We won't be complacent like we were last year. They will be targeting Wexford and they will not fear us.
Put quite simply, we must avail of scoring opportunities and not leave them in the game with 15 minutes left.
Egan will no doubt pick a strong side, knowing that a loss would make it difficult to survive in the top flight.
Yes of course the championship is the big one but to get some good results in the next couple of weeks is important and would boost morale.
Big games needed by Mac, Dee, Damien Reck Kevin Foley.
Let's hope our shooting improves and silly frees are not given away.
Verdict- 7 point win for Wexford." Would take a win of any description at this stage. Shane reck limping on Sunday so hopefully nothing too serious. He's had hamstring issues in the past. Hopefully it's not another. Hard to see us winning against Clare, cork or limerick with the injuries we have mounting so for me Sunday will decide who's in the relegation playoff
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 10/02/2023 09:59:19
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Replying To Magpie2: "The well used words ' Banana skin' are appropriate about Sundays game against Westmeath. It's a must win game for us as the rest of the league games will be very tough to put it mildly.
With jippo gone, there will be gaping holes in our defence. Hopefully it can be patched up successfully. Perhaps Shane Reck can fill the gap with Donohoe and Devit on either side of him. Maybe Jacko and Chinner will start or be introduced at some stage. Westmeath will be hurting after they were humiliated by Clare last week and will be anxious to do well on their own ground. We won't be complacent like we were last year. They will be targeting Wexford and they will not fear us.
Put quite simply, we must avail of scoring opportunities and not leave them in the game with 15 minutes left.
Egan will no doubt pick a strong side, knowing that a loss would make it difficult to survive in the top flight.
Yes of course the championship is the big one but to get some good results in the next couple of weeks is important and would boost morale.
Big games needed by Mac, Dee, Damien Reck Kevin Foley.
Let's hope our shooting improves and silly frees are not given away.
Verdict- 7 point win for Wexford." May as well give Niall Murphy a go at full-back as a direct replacement for Jippo. Had an excellent club campaign and at least plays that position, tipping away nicely at Fitzgibbon too. No better time to give him significant minutes than now.
I am sure last year's draw will be to the forefront of our minds, at least I hope it is. I expect nothing less than a win, though I feel we will have the lowest winning margin vs. them compared to everyone else due to our current injury crisis.
Not only was it a disappointing year for our senior schools, and it is a growing trend unfortunately, the way St.Peter's exited to Offaly Schools before Christmas was by all accounts disgraceful. According to the paper, there were some awful incidents that have no place in any sport, but that's off topic. We simply need a return of the combined schools system to improve our fortunes across the board.
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Replying To beano: "May as well give Niall Murphy a go at full-back as a direct replacement for Jippo. Had an excellent club campaign and at least plays that position, tipping away nicely at Fitzgibbon too. No better time to give him significant minutes than now.
I am sure last year's draw will be to the forefront of our minds, at least I hope it is. I expect nothing less than a win, though I feel we will have the lowest winning margin vs. them compared to everyone else due to our current injury crisis.
Not only was it a disappointing year for our senior schools, and it is a growing trend unfortunately, the way St.Peter's exited to Offaly Schools before Christmas was by all accounts disgraceful. According to the paper, there were some awful incidents that have no place in any sport, but that's off topic. We simply need a return of the combined schools system to improve our fortunes across the board." That behavior has become quite the norm with St Peters unfortunately. If they concentrated a bit more on the hurling instead of the decline they are in it would suit Wexford hurling better in general.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 10/02/2023 10:35:50
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