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Replying To Onfor15:  "Most of the times I saw him playing outfield he was half back"
Centre half was his favourite position to play.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 08/02/2023 14:42:05    2457279

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "You know the setup as well as I do viking/terriblefootwork but you can't be calling Dunbar a new face now, he is around the panel for 3-4-5 years now? The others bar Foley who looks a good prospect are around a couple of years as well, not new faces.
You are right they need game time but the panel turnover in Wexford is less than most counties, most counties introduce a few new players in every league campaign and give them the start.
The game wasn't lost but Galway were well on top and Wexford were all at sea by then.
It just strikes me, as an outside view with a slight Wexford leaning due to living here, that things aren't as rosy as you pain them. If it is part of some grand plan to be bursting out of the traps come April-August, I will be the first to eat humble pie on this. I am not convinced but hope to be wrong."
No it's not rosy at all. I was listening to the hurling podcast and Fergal Hegarthy was reeling off about 10 players coming through in Galway while all we could mention was Foley and Lawlor. Very few of the 2019 minor team are coming through. Still heavily reliant on players coming towards the end end of their county days. The current crop I believe can get to a Leinster final but the future is bleak enough. Alot of talk coming out of the county board about player development, well I don't see it. Your future is built in your schools and your underage. Both have been average, the schools in 'A' grade have been very poor. Peters are a shambles and GCC don't really count as half their team are from Kilkenny usually. One underage success in almost a decade and yet some think we're doing okay. C'mon we have to get real here!

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 08/02/2023 14:59:21    2457285

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Listened to Daly's podcast there about Wexford shooting and the narrative is so negative regarding Wexford. All the talk about our shot selection being fundamentally flawed and Galway being far superior etc. I watched the first half again just to make sure i was missing something but we actually looked much better on TV than live. All of the shots bar two were 100% on and we had just had some awful wides as opposed to being a flawed team.
I fully understand we are not likely to win the All Ireland but its just lazy commentary.
I would fancy our chances against a lot of teams, Galway included, in the Championship.

On the plus side Conor Hearne looks very sharp and McCuckian has come on a mile and bulked up since last year. We will be thereabouts in Leinster this year.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 08/02/2023 15:06:13    2457288

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "No it's not rosy at all. I was listening to the hurling podcast and Fergal Hegarthy was reeling off about 10 players coming through in Galway while all we could mention was Foley and Lawlor. Very few of the 2019 minor team are coming through. Still heavily reliant on players coming towards the end end of their county days. The current crop I believe can get to a Leinster final but the future is bleak enough. Alot of talk coming out of the county board about player development, well I don't see it. Your future is built in your schools and your underage. Both have been average, the schools in 'A' grade have been very poor. Peters are a shambles and GCC don't really count as half their team are from Kilkenny usually. One underage success in almost a decade and yet some think we're doing okay. C'mon we have to get real here!"
Agreed we need to improve alot at underage still. But at the same time most of the lads named who are coming through for Galway played on their 2018 u21 team that tbh were very very lucky to beat ours in the Leinster final that year.
From that team in our panel we have-
Damien and Shane Reck, Rory O Connor, Cathal Dunbar, Mikie Dwyer, Joe O' Connor, Ian Carthy, Rory Higgins, Oisin Foley, Conor Firman. Seamus Casey and Darren Byrne have both been on the panel before.
Only Rory and Damien are established intercounty starters from that team but that's to be expected. These lads are only around 24. Hopefully more of them will establish themselves over the next year or 2.
1. Eanna Murphy (Tommy Larkins)

2. Ian O'Shea (Athenry)
3. Jack Fitzpatrick (Killimordaly)
4. Shane Bannon (Clarinbridge)

7. Jack Grealish (Gort)
5. Fintan Burke (St. Thomas)
6. Mark Hughes (Liam mellows)
8. Thomas Monaghan (Craughwell)
9. Sean Loftus (Turloughmore)

10. Brian Concannon (Killimordaly)
11. Cian Salmon (Clarinbridge)
12. Cianan Fahy (Ardrahan)

15. Kevin Cooney (Sarsfields)
13. Evan Niland (Clarinbridge)
14. Sean Bleahane (Ahascragh-Fohenagh)

Subs

23. Patrick Foley (Clarinbridge) for Salmon (ht)
19. Conor Caulfield (Kilconieron) for Hughes (41)
17. Jack Canning (Portumna) for Bleahene (42)
22. Michael Lynch (Killnadeema Leitrim) for Monaghan (75)
14. Bleahene for Nilan (77)

Wexford
1. Jack Cushe (Naomh Eanna)

6. Damien Reck (Oylgate-Glenbrien)
3. Darren Byrne (Blackwater)
2. Shane Reck (Olygate-Glenbrien)

5. Aaron Maddock (St Martin's)
7. Ian Carthy (Taghmon-Camross)
9. Rowan White (Glynn-Barntown)

8. Garry Moloy (Naomh Eanna)
4. Conor Firman (St Martin's - captain)

10. Joe O'Connor (St Martin's)
11. Rory O'Connor (St Martin's)
12. Liam Stafford (Adamstown)

15. Seamus Casey (Olygate-Glenbrien)
13. Stephen O'Gorman (Adamstown)
14. Rory Higgins (Rathnure)

Subs

21. Oisin Foley (Crossabeg-Ballymurn) for Stafford (52)
23. Mikie Dwyer (Fethard) for O'Gorman (52)
22. Darren Codd (St Martin's) for White (57)
13. O'Gorman for Casey (68)

Referee: John O'Brien (Laois)

When you look now at the 2 teams Galway have more lads who have established themselves than we do. Their lads were ahead of ours as regards S and C at the time and subsequently they gave those lads senior chances before we did.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 08/02/2023 15:33:20    2457296

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "No it's not rosy at all. I was listening to the hurling podcast and Fergal Hegarthy was reeling off about 10 players coming through in Galway while all we could mention was Foley and Lawlor. Very few of the 2019 minor team are coming through. Still heavily reliant on players coming towards the end end of their county days. The current crop I believe can get to a Leinster final but the future is bleak enough. Alot of talk coming out of the county board about player development, well I don't see it. Your future is built in your schools and your underage. Both have been average, the schools in 'A' grade have been very poor. Peters are a shambles and GCC don't really count as half their team are from Kilkenny usually. One underage success in almost a decade and yet some think we're doing okay. C'mon we have to get real here!"
I'm intrigued to find these posters you and others are claiming that everything is rosy, I think people are realistic nobody is claiming we're standard bearers etc. I think you and 1 or 2 others are a bit guilty of a lack on patience, give an example Charlie McGuckin is 23 turning 24 later this year and showing really good signs of progress, he could have been discounted at 21 or 22 if some people here had their way, I had my doubts myself to be honest but players develop at different rates of progress. We had a very decent u20 team last year who without Oisin Pepper and 1 or 2 other lads injured lost to Kilkenny by a point in the Leinster final, Kilkenny actually won the all ireland, I'd be hopeful some of that team could make an impact down the line but with physical development etc. it could some lads til their 22 or 23. Looking over the last decade Kevin Foley didn't become a regular starter til he was 23, Shaun Murphy at 26 or 27, Conor Devitt didn't make his 1st championship start til he was that age too, I also think with age grades changing and less crossover between u20/21 and Senior the days of 19 year old coming straight into the team like Conor Mc, Jippo and Rory O'C will become more and more rare. I agree regards the schools but to be fair there really isn't 1 concentrated school that hoovers up a big sway of the talent like the Kierans I'd love for the Wexford Schools team to make a return if all possible, what I'm actually hearing is Peters wouldn't be strong at all now in the younger age groups and Wexford CBS are improving alot, for example some of the best prospects from St Annes are going to the CBS which is un-heard of. I also think sometimes you need to think before you post, after Laois beat us in minor last year you were here straight away saying this is a joke etc. Laois beat Kilkenny the next day out in Leinster semi final, if we had lost Offaly rather than Laois in that game I'm sure you would been here with similar taughts saying its only Offaly etc. but in reality they had an excellent team last year who nearly won the all ireland.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/02/2023 16:01:31    2457303

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Listened to Daly's podcast there about Wexford shooting and the narrative is so negative regarding Wexford. All the talk about our shot selection being fundamentally flawed and Galway being far superior etc. I watched the first half again just to make sure i was missing something but we actually looked much better on TV than live. All of the shots bar two were 100% on and we had just had some awful wides as opposed to being a flawed team.
I fully understand we are not likely to win the All Ireland but its just lazy commentary.
I would fancy our chances against a lot of teams, Galway included, in the Championship.

On the plus side Conor Hearne looks very sharp and McCuckian has come on a mile and bulked up since last year. We will be thereabouts in Leinster this year."
It was a really odd game, taught Galway were very sluggish for alot of the 1st half we kept them in the game with our shooting more than anything, it was like the teams swapped jerseys at HT they just ran through us at will in the 2nd half.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/02/2023 16:13:34    2457306

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Listened to Daly's podcast there about Wexford shooting and the narrative is so negative regarding Wexford. All the talk about our shot selection being fundamentally flawed and Galway being far superior etc. I watched the first half again just to make sure i was missing something but we actually looked much better on TV than live. All of the shots bar two were 100% on and we had just had some awful wides as opposed to being a flawed team.
I fully understand we are not likely to win the All Ireland but its just lazy commentary.
I would fancy our chances against a lot of teams, Galway included, in the Championship.

On the plus side Conor Hearne looks very sharp and McCuckian has come on a mile and bulked up since last year. We will be thereabouts in Leinster this year."
Think Conor Hearne drifts out of games a lot hopefully he can make a bigger impact in games . I've been impressed with McGuckin he is improving his game this year. Any word on the injury to Richie Lawlor when is he expected back. Also when is Hanlon and Oisin Foley due back?

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 08/02/2023 16:36:38    2457316

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agreed we need to improve alot at underage still. But at the same time most of the lads named who are coming through for Galway played on their 2018 u21 team that tbh were very very lucky to beat ours in the Leinster final that year.
From that team in our panel we have-
Damien and Shane Reck, Rory O Connor, Cathal Dunbar, Mikie Dwyer, Joe O' Connor, Ian Carthy, Rory Higgins, Oisin Foley, Conor Firman. Seamus Casey and Darren Byrne have both been on the panel before.
Only Rory and Damien are established intercounty starters from that team but that's to be expected. These lads are only around 24. Hopefully more of them will establish themselves over the next year or 2.
1. Eanna Murphy (Tommy Larkins)

2. Ian O'Shea (Athenry)
3. Jack Fitzpatrick (Killimordaly)
4. Shane Bannon (Clarinbridge)

7. Jack Grealish (Gort)
5. Fintan Burke (St. Thomas)
6. Mark Hughes (Liam mellows)
8. Thomas Monaghan (Craughwell)
9. Sean Loftus (Turloughmore)

10. Brian Concannon (Killimordaly)
11. Cian Salmon (Clarinbridge)
12. Cianan Fahy (Ardrahan)

15. Kevin Cooney (Sarsfields)
13. Evan Niland (Clarinbridge)
14. Sean Bleahane (Ahascragh-Fohenagh)

Subs

23. Patrick Foley (Clarinbridge) for Salmon (ht)
19. Conor Caulfield (Kilconieron) for Hughes (41)
17. Jack Canning (Portumna) for Bleahene (42)
22. Michael Lynch (Killnadeema Leitrim) for Monaghan (75)
14. Bleahene for Nilan (77)

Wexford
1. Jack Cushe (Naomh Eanna)

6. Damien Reck (Oylgate-Glenbrien)
3. Darren Byrne (Blackwater)
2. Shane Reck (Olygate-Glenbrien)

5. Aaron Maddock (St Martin's)
7. Ian Carthy (Taghmon-Camross)
9. Rowan White (Glynn-Barntown)

8. Garry Moloy (Naomh Eanna)
4. Conor Firman (St Martin's - captain)

10. Joe O'Connor (St Martin's)
11. Rory O'Connor (St Martin's)
12. Liam Stafford (Adamstown)

15. Seamus Casey (Olygate-Glenbrien)
13. Stephen O'Gorman (Adamstown)
14. Rory Higgins (Rathnure)

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21. Oisin Foley (Crossabeg-Ballymurn) for Stafford (52)
23. Mikie Dwyer (Fethard) for O'Gorman (52)
22. Darren Codd (St Martin's) for White (57)
13. O'Gorman for Casey (68)

Referee: John O'Brien (Laois)

When you look now at the 2 teams Galway have more lads who have established themselves than we do. Their lads were ahead of ours as regards S and C at the time and subsequently they gave those lads senior chances before we did."
Cork abd Tipp have a few players from their 2018 teams who came through already too. Again they put alot more emphasis on underage S and C also . And Stephen O' Gorman is a Taghmon man!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 08/02/2023 16:39:19    2457318

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TerribleFootwork it was viking who said about Dunbar, I was referring to you both in 1 post.

I 100% agree with you about the Wexford Schools thing. It has to be hurting Wexford hurling that a quarter of the county has exposure to A grade hurling in schools. I get that it takes effort and a lot of logistic to bring 4-5 schools together but can the county board not help with this? Given they had Gordon Darcy in the management setup and some jargon reason as to his contribution, could they not pay for a bus to the COE from each school instead? To me, this is the biggest no-brainer and I have thought since my oldest lad started first year.

I would not worry though about this year because that Offaly School combined team was their AI final minor team from last yr. They beat everyone in Leinster this year and will probably win the All Ireland.

The point made by someone about Wexford lack of goal threat is also a real issue. Goals win games, lift the crowd and are worth more than 3 points. I still remember that U21 final when Conor Mc gave Cian O'Callaghan the run around in the Nell, he was sensational and I thought Wexford have something special here. I get that he is constantly man marked and a big step up but I was thinking you had the new Tony Doran or Nick Rackard. I don't know what happened but the years are passing by and without going Eamon Dunphy on it he is a good player not a great player.

Goals win games, and Wexford do not score enough or even carry enough goal threat.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1144 - 08/02/2023 16:41:57    2457319

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Btw, I have been very impressed with Charlie McGuckin this year, his pace and use of the ball has improved a lot.
I still rate Shane Reck as the best man marker in the game, he must be a nightmare to go up against. And Damien is class altogether.
I just think, 10-15 plus replacements for these Wexford are hit and miss bar Chin.
Every time I see Jack O'Connor hurl with the Martins he is centre back, why hasn't he been tried there? I wonder if Damien Reck would be better midfield hoovering up loose ball?
Just in case you think I am a negative....

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1144 - 08/02/2023 16:46:50    2457325

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Think Conor Hearne drifts out of games a lot hopefully he can make a bigger impact in games . I've been impressed with McGuckin he is improving his game this year. Any word on the injury to Richie Lawlor when is he expected back. Also when is Hanlon and Oisin Foley due back?"
I think he was out for 6 or 7 weeks with it last year so hopefully no longer than that this year.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/02/2023 16:51:25    2457327

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Think Conor Hearne drifts out of games a lot hopefully he can make a bigger impact in games . I've been impressed with McGuckin he is improving his game this year. Any word on the injury to Richie Lawlor when is he expected back. Also when is Hanlon and Oisin Foley due back?"
Don't know on O'Hanlon or Foley, think O'Hanlon is training away so hopefully its just a case of being cautious.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/02/2023 16:52:44    2457328

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Replying To Viking66:  "Cork abd Tipp have a few players from their 2018 teams who came through already too. Again they put alot more emphasis on underage S and C also . And Stephen O' Gorman is a Taghmon man!"
And sorry Dunbar finished at u21 in 2017.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 08/02/2023 17:09:12    2457332

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "I'm intrigued to find these posters you and others are claiming that everything is rosy, I think people are realistic nobody is claiming we're standard bearers etc. I think you and 1 or 2 others are a bit guilty of a lack on patience, give an example Charlie McGuckin is 23 turning 24 later this year and showing really good signs of progress, he could have been discounted at 21 or 22 if some people here had their way, I had my doubts myself to be honest but players develop at different rates of progress. We had a very decent u20 team last year who without Oisin Pepper and 1 or 2 other lads injured lost to Kilkenny by a point in the Leinster final, Kilkenny actually won the all ireland, I'd be hopeful some of that team could make an impact down the line but with physical development etc. it could some lads til their 22 or 23. Looking over the last decade Kevin Foley didn't become a regular starter til he was 23, Shaun Murphy at 26 or 27, Conor Devitt didn't make his 1st championship start til he was that age too, I also think with age grades changing and less crossover between u20/21 and Senior the days of 19 year old coming straight into the team like Conor Mc, Jippo and Rory O'C will become more and more rare. I agree regards the schools but to be fair there really isn't 1 concentrated school that hoovers up a big sway of the talent like the Kierans I'd love for the Wexford Schools team to make a return if all possible, what I'm actually hearing is Peters wouldn't be strong at all now in the younger age groups and Wexford CBS are improving alot, for example some of the best prospects from St Annes are going to the CBS which is un-heard of. I also think sometimes you need to think before you post, after Laois beat us in minor last year you were here straight away saying this is a joke etc. Laois beat Kilkenny the next day out in Leinster semi final, if we had lost Offaly rather than Laois in that game I'm sure you would been here with similar taughts saying its only Offaly etc. but in reality they had an excellent team last year who nearly won the all ireland."
Are these players you mention are good hurlers in their own right but are they going to be as good as their direct opponents in Kilkenny and Galway? Probably not. Kilkenny are seemingly producing a top, young forward every year. We are very slow to get talent through to senior. The plan is with the county board is to win the All Ireland by 2027. Doubt they'll be in a final by then. The landscape of hurling is very competitive. At underage, Cork are very strong as well as Tipp. While in Leinster, Kilkenny are producing some serious hurlers again.

Offaly GAA was in a far worse position then we ever were. They get a plan together and in two years have a winning U20 football team and beaten in a minor final with the last puck of a game. They've won the same amount of underage titles as we have in the last decade. Our county board are a very well run board, financially but I have my doubts based on recent underage results, that they know how to run a successful player development plan. I say this as a complete outsider but who watches almost all underage and senior hurling games mind.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 08/02/2023 17:15:26    2457336

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Listened to Daly's podcast there about Wexford shooting and the narrative is so negative regarding Wexford. All the talk about our shot selection being fundamentally flawed and Galway being far superior etc. I watched the first half again just to make sure i was missing something but we actually looked much better on TV than live. All of the shots bar two were 100% on and we had just had some awful wides as opposed to being a flawed team.
I fully understand we are not likely to win the All Ireland but its just lazy commentary.
I would fancy our chances against a lot of teams, Galway included, in the Championship.

On the plus side Conor Hearne looks very sharp and McCuckian has come on a mile and bulked up since last year. We will be thereabouts in Leinster this year."
I agree to be honest.

A fully fit panel for us can win leinster.

We were frustratingly close last year.

One or two decisions in key group games cost us massively.

Hindsight is 20 20 but we should have beaten Galway and Dublin.

Less said about westmeath the better.

We need to reproduce the nowlan Park performance, and 55 minutes of the Clare game consistently.

If we can do that we can match anyone bar limerick.

The intriguing thing is Galway. If they can take our limerick it's anybodys.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2749 - 08/02/2023 17:48:49    2457342

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Watched the DCU SETUW game Banville was good generally on frees missed only 1 he should've got. Missed 1 other tough 1. Generally very good on them though. Got 2 nice points from play as well but was a bit light in the rucks and could improve his closing down etc. Only other criticism was he was too often marking space when Waterford had the ball. Thought Niall Murphy had a pretty good game at full back and wasn't really at fault for the 3 goals. Clancy came on in the second half and got a point and did OK Generally. Exciting game though not champagne hurling by any means. The other 8 or so Wexford lads on the 2 panels didn't play. I think DCU really missed Lawlor who might have made the difference for them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 09/02/2023 07:10:01    2457370

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "TerribleFootwork it was viking who said about Dunbar, I was referring to you both in 1 post.

I 100% agree with you about the Wexford Schools thing. It has to be hurting Wexford hurling that a quarter of the county has exposure to A grade hurling in schools. I get that it takes effort and a lot of logistic to bring 4-5 schools together but can the county board not help with this? Given they had Gordon Darcy in the management setup and some jargon reason as to his contribution, could they not pay for a bus to the COE from each school instead? To me, this is the biggest no-brainer and I have thought since my oldest lad started first year.

I would not worry though about this year because that Offaly School combined team was their AI final minor team from last yr. They beat everyone in Leinster this year and will probably win the All Ireland.

The point made by someone about Wexford lack of goal threat is also a real issue. Goals win games, lift the crowd and are worth more than 3 points. I still remember that U21 final when Conor Mc gave Cian O'Callaghan the run around in the Nell, he was sensational and I thought Wexford have something special here. I get that he is constantly man marked and a big step up but I was thinking you had the new Tony Doran or Nick Rackard. I don't know what happened but the years are passing by and without going Eamon Dunphy on it he is a good player not a great player.

Goals win games, and Wexford do not score enough or even carry enough goal threat."
Agree about the goal threat when Chin or Rory aren't playing. When either is, Mac looks better straight away. When they aren't Mac gets the full attention of the best backs and seems to struggle to be effective. If all 3 could stay injury free for the entire championship ww will be a very different animal up top to last year. We gave Clare a hard time of it as regards goals and chances with just Mac and a half fit Chin inside in Semple.
I looked up Dunbar and you are right he's a year or 2 older. If he could stay injury free, which he rarely seems able to do, I think he has the talent to be a regular starter. He's bulked up a good bit also and I've been impressed with him this year tbh as regards workrate etc. He was one of the few players who looked good in the challenge game against Waterford

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 09/02/2023 10:04:34    2457390

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Btw, I have been very impressed with Charlie McGuckin this year, his pace and use of the ball has improved a lot.
I still rate Shane Reck as the best man marker in the game, he must be a nightmare to go up against. And Damien is class altogether.
I just think, 10-15 plus replacements for these Wexford are hit and miss bar Chin.
Every time I see Jack O'Connor hurl with the Martins he is centre back, why hasn't he been tried there? I wonder if Damien Reck would be better midfield hoovering up loose ball?
Just in case you think I am a negative...."
I think as regards 10-15 Mogie is still one of our best players. Oisin Foley did well last year too. Dwyer and Dunbar have improved alot. And do we carry Banville as a freetaker?
Starting front 6-
ROC,
Chin,
Mac,
Mogie,
O Foley,
Then 1 of Dunbar, Dwyer, Banville, Jacko, Flood the other 4 as replacements. Replacements Hearne, Joe OC if he gets back up to speed, Lawlor if he returns in time, Higgins maybe.
Midfield-
2 of Dee, Kevin Foley and Mcguckin depending on form. Maybe Lawlor, Joe O'Connor or Dunbar and/or as replacements if not coming on in the forwards .
I'd be inclined to leave Damien Reck where he is as he gets through alot of good defensive work when not gone forward, eg that goalie clearance in Nowlan Park!
If everyone is fully fit we have good options, bearing in mind we have seen very little if anything, of 4 of the 5 who I'd be assuming will be our starting forwards come championship, so far this season.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 09/02/2023 10:17:01    2457394

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Don't know on O'Hanlon or Foley, think O'Hanlon is training away so hopefully its just a case of being cautious."
MOH training the last good while but maybe has a slight knock?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 09/02/2023 10:17:48    2457395

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Are these players you mention are good hurlers in their own right but are they going to be as good as their direct opponents in Kilkenny and Galway? Probably not. Kilkenny are seemingly producing a top, young forward every year. We are very slow to get talent through to senior. The plan is with the county board is to win the All Ireland by 2027. Doubt they'll be in a final by then. The landscape of hurling is very competitive. At underage, Cork are very strong as well as Tipp. While in Leinster, Kilkenny are producing some serious hurlers again.

Offaly GAA was in a far worse position then we ever were. They get a plan together and in two years have a winning U20 football team and beaten in a minor final with the last puck of a game. They've won the same amount of underage titles as we have in the last decade. Our county board are a very well run board, financially but I have my doubts based on recent underage results, that they know how to run a successful player development plan. I say this as a complete outsider but who watches almost all underage and senior hurling games mind."
Agree as regards our underage set up, especially as regards S and C. I'm like you I watch as many underage games as I can get to too. But we are always smaller, not just height but also build, than whoever we are playing. 2019 minor v Galway stands out, even the u20s losing to Kildare. I can't think of any underage game I ever saw us in that we were bigger than our opponents.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 09/02/2023 10:21:17    2457396

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