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Does the fact that Wexford are worrying about beating a Westmeath team who were trounced by Clare not highlight even more that Wexford might not be in as good a place as you all think?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1450 - 10/02/2023 12:20:48    2457630

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Replying To Magpie2:  "The well used words ' Banana skin' are appropriate about Sundays game against Westmeath. It's a must win game for us as the rest of the league games will be very tough to put it mildly.
With jippo gone, there will be gaping holes in our defence. Hopefully it can be patched up successfully. Perhaps Shane Reck can fill the gap with Donohoe and Devit on either side of him. Maybe Jacko and Chinner will start or be introduced at some stage. Westmeath will be hurting after they were humiliated by Clare last week and will be anxious to do well on their own ground. We won't be complacent like we were last year. They will be targeting Wexford and they will not fear us.
Put quite simply, we must avail of scoring opportunities and not leave them in the game with 15 minutes left.
Egan will no doubt pick a strong side, knowing that a loss would make it difficult to survive in the top flight.
Yes of course the championship is the big one but to get some good results in the next couple of weeks is important and would boost morale.
Big games needed by Mac, Dee, Damien Reck Kevin Foley.
Let's hope our shooting improves and silly frees are not given away.
Verdict- 7 point win for Wexford."
Wexford by 12-15 points - Westmeath not anywhere near winning a Leinster title and if we have any ideas in that regard we need to be putting them to the sword.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 10/02/2023 12:31:14    2457633

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Covid hit in '20 and think that was that. They had a team entered that year. Offaly schools have a team in Leinster'A this year and were going well the last I saw.
It's been a very disappointing year for the individual Wexford schools which isn't a good reflection of the standard of underage. Don't think any of the schools got past the preliminary quarter finals in the Leinster senior 'B' ."
Offaly basically used their minor team from last year in this competition. Birr CS now gone from 'A' Competition so it probably suits them to do it, event though they cant go outside Leinster.

Was it a good fit for Wexford? Good Counsel and St Peters will always be their own entity in this competition, so its Gorey CS who should be pushing to go Leinster A like their football team, that would leave just Wexford CBS, New Ross, CBS, Ramsgrange and Enniscorthy CBS who would probably be better off concentrating on training within their own schools and aim to win B and C leinster championships.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 10/02/2023 12:35:18    2457636

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "Offaly basically used their minor team from last year in this competition. Birr CS now gone from 'A' Competition so it probably suits them to do it, event though they cant go outside Leinster.

Was it a good fit for Wexford? Good Counsel and St Peters will always be their own entity in this competition, so its Gorey CS who should be pushing to go Leinster A like their football team, that would leave just Wexford CBS, New Ross, CBS, Ramsgrange and Enniscorthy CBS who would probably be better off concentrating on training within their own schools and aim to win B and C leinster championships."
Birr, tullamore and kilcormac all hurling away in the Leinster B and doing better than our schools this year. Gorey struggled this year and even when they had very good teams were unable to win Leinster B. As I a said in a previous post all the Wexford schools couldn't get past the last16 and that doesn't reflect well on the underage at the moment

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 10/02/2023 14:21:40    2457668

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Would take a win of any description at this stage. Shane reck limping on Sunday so hopefully nothing too serious. He's had hamstring issues in the past. Hopefully it's not another. Hard to see us winning against Clare, cork or limerick with the injuries we have mounting so for me Sunday will decide who's in the relegation playoff"
Shane has a dead leg

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 10/02/2023 14:29:53    2457672

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Does the fact that Wexford are worrying about beating a Westmeath team who were trounced by Clare not highlight even more that Wexford might not be in as good a place as you all think?"
We are trying to build a panel. Noone thinks we are in a great place. Just not as bad a place as our resident glass is half empty dub thinks we are; )

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 10/02/2023 14:33:41    2457675

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Does the fact that Wexford are worrying about beating a Westmeath team who were trounced by Clare not highlight even more that Wexford might not be in as good a place as you all think?"
Clare are the 2nd best team in Munster currently. We nearly beat them last year without Rory and Chin only half fit. We are trying to build a panel. Noone thinks we are in a great place. Just not as bad a place as our resident glass is half empty dub thinks we are; )

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 10/02/2023 14:34:56    2457677

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "Wexford by 12-15 points - Westmeath not anywhere near winning a Leinster title and if we have any ideas in that regard we need to be putting them to the sword."
We will likely only have half our team on the pitch if that. But yes I'd be hoping we win comfortably enough.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 10/02/2023 14:35:50    2457678

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Does the fact that Wexford are worrying about beating a Westmeath team who were trounced by Clare not highlight even more that Wexford might not be in as good a place as you all think?"
We have a problem. While Davy did some great stuff while he was with us he failed miserably in developing a squad and/or nurturing young talent coming through. We are now seeing the results of this in our complete reliance on long established names. When we get a rake of injuries with these names, as now, we are exposed.
Having said that, we should still beat Westmeath but the anxiety of some of our posters is understandable. God forbid, but if we don't beat them I'll be staying away from reading this forum for a few days to avoid the onslaught of negativity.

Selskarexile (Wexford) - Posts: 30 - 10/02/2023 14:48:10    2457683

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Replying To Viking66:  "Clare are the 2nd best team in Munster currently. We nearly beat them last year without Rory and Chin only half fit. We are trying to build a panel. Noone thinks we are in a great place. Just not as bad a place as our resident glass is half empty dub thinks we are; )"
I'd love to have a match bet with the blow in Dub for championship match.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 10/02/2023 14:50:04    2457685

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Replying To Selskarexile:  "We have a problem. While Davy did some great stuff while he was with us he failed miserably in developing a squad and/or nurturing young talent coming through. We are now seeing the results of this in our complete reliance on long established names. When we get a rake of injuries with these names, as now, we are exposed.
Having said that, we should still beat Westmeath but the anxiety of some of our posters is understandable. God forbid, but if we don't beat them I'll be staying away from reading this forum for a few days to avoid the onslaught of negativity."
When you look at the Galway team last weekend a good few of the lads that played u21 against us in 2018 are already in their 3rd and 4th years Senior and are well known established senior players. Likewise some of the Cork players who beat our lads in the U21 AISF that year and the Tipp players who beat them also. A small sample list-
Galway- Jack Grealish, Eanna Murphy, Thomas Monaghan, Fintan Burke, Brian Concannon, Cianan Fahy, Evan Niland
Cork- Ger Millerick, Niall O'Leary, Mark Coleman, Darragh Fitzgibbon, Robbie O Flynn, Shane Kingston, Tim O Mahony, Jack O'Connor , Declan Dalton, Billy Hennessey who joined their Footballers last year but was with their hurlers.
Tipperary- Dillon Quirke RIP, Barry Hogan, Jake Morris, Ger Browne, Conor Stakelum, Craig Morgan, Mark Kehoe, Paddy Cadell, Jerome Cahill

We now have Damien Reck, ROC, Shane Reck, Oisin Foley, Mikie Dwyer, Joe OC, Rory Higgins, Conor Firman , Ian Carthy. But most of these, apart from Damien Reck and ROC, only got a look 2 years ago or last year. At least 2 years after their Cork, Tipp and Galway counterparts. Davy did also call up Blackwaters Darren Byrne but I don't know why he left the panel again. So our lads are at least 2 years behind as regards Senior training, experience and S and C. And it shows tbh. Hopefully they can catch back up.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 10/02/2023 15:23:58    2457700

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Does the fact that Wexford are worrying about beating a Westmeath team who were trounced by Clare not highlight even more that Wexford might not be in as good a place as you all think?"
Normal anxiety I would say.

We know we should win.

What we should do and what we actually do don't always match in wexford.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3850 - 10/02/2023 15:37:02    2457703

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Replying To countyman2022:  "I'd love to have a match bet with the blow in Dub for championship match."
Blow in dub, doing as much coaching and other work in a Wexford club than 90% of the locals using the GAA's free babysitting service, but whatever you are having yourself.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1450 - 10/02/2023 16:48:41    2457721

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Replying To Selskarexile:  "We have a problem. While Davy did some great stuff while he was with us he failed miserably in developing a squad and/or nurturing young talent coming through. We are now seeing the results of this in our complete reliance on long established names. When we get a rake of injuries with these names, as now, we are exposed.
Having said that, we should still beat Westmeath but the anxiety of some of our posters is understandable. God forbid, but if we don't beat them I'll be staying away from reading this forum for a few days to avoid the onslaught of negativity."
Will someone tell me all these lads that have been ignored and not nurtured.... even 3 players that didn't get any game etc. ??

grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 182 - 10/02/2023 17:10:50    2457728

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https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/wexford-look-to-remove-ban-on-hurlers-playing-u-20-and-senior-simultaneously-42336921.html

Sensible proposal

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 10/02/2023 20:04:49    2457742

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Does the fact that Wexford are worrying about beating a Westmeath team who were trounced by Clare not highlight even more that Wexford might not be in as good a place as you all think?"
No we expect them to win but its called having respect for your opponents, we got our hands burned in Mullingar last year just like Dublin did vs Laois in 2019 championship, Westmeath gave Kilkenny and Dublin plenty of it for 50 and 60 mins respectively last year too, the favourites don't always win in sport, just think your trying to stir the pot more than anything.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 10/02/2023 21:55:03    2457755

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Team named. Good mix of experience and youth. Hopefully the newer lads and fringe 1st teamers like Hearne, Mcguckin, Foley, Higgins, Clarke, Devitt and Dunbar all have good games and show ability and willingness to get stuck in and drive eachother on and start staking a claim on a place on the team in the summer. Be good to see others get a good run off the bench also depending what way the game is going at halftime.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 11/02/2023 07:17:28    2457758

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Replying To grassroots01:  "Will someone tell me all these lads that have been ignored and not nurtured.... even 3 players that didn't get any game etc. ??"
Stephen O Gorman. Represented Wexford all the way up from u14 to u21. Nominated for the club hurling team of the year last year. Never contacted by Senior management.
Rowan White. Represented Wexford all the way up to u21 also. Nominated for club hurling team of the year last year. Not sure if contacted by the current management.
Jack Redmond. Did well for the u20s last year. Nominated for Wexford hurling TOTY last year. Made the Wexford Weekly TOTY for 2022. Not sure if contacted by the current management.
There's 3 forwards who did very well for the county at underage, aren't tiny, and had good years last year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16687 - 11/02/2023 08:13:52    2457760

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Replying To grassroots01:  "Will someone tell me all these lads that have been ignored and not nurtured.... even 3 players that didn't get any game etc. ??"
It's not about a token gesture of 10 minutes.

It's about a little bit of perseverance.

The only player he integrated was Rory who he just couldn't ignore.

Oisín Foley is one exceptional talent he continually ignored who proved his worth immediately.

Byrne got treated unbelievably harshly for 1 mistake in the park.

He also didn't include the subs in team talks at training and that's from the horse's mouth.

They were in the team on paper, but never allowed to be part of it.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3850 - 11/02/2023 08:30:03    2457762

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Blow in dub, doing as much coaching and other work in a Wexford club than 90% of the locals using the GAA's free babysitting service, but whatever you are having yourself."
Ah you're one of us really.

I don't agree about the goal threat though.

I watched 2 of last years league games, the kilkenny game, the Clare game and the first half of the Galway game last night.

We get plenty of bodies around the square at the right time.

It mostly comes from chin and Rory though.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3850 - 11/02/2023 08:33:32    2457763

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