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Tailteann Cup 2022

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Proper supporters? Enough of this snobby attitude you have. Many supporters will have to pick and choose what matches they'll go to, with cost of living and such. Many simply won't go to early rounds as the prestige isn't there, and they'll hold their powder dry until later. No need for you to be so snobby and say that"
A few pages back you said travel wasn't an issue but now all of a sudden it is? What's your suggestion for this? Should the GAA provide transport?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1651 - 16/05/2022 13:38:08    2417696

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Replying To 97Cavans:  "Completely agree. It would transform this competition. You would probably increase attendances from 1-2000 to about 7 or 8 thousand. This competition's success will be decided by the supporters, not the players."
There's not one of these games that would have 7,000 people at them no matter what the incentives were. A stand alone final will not get that. A lot of the provincial games aren't even getting it. Football is in a very bad way I think at inter county level, this does nothing to address it.

weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 16/05/2022 13:42:51    2417699

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Replying To oneoff:  "A few pages back you said travel wasn't an issue but now all of a sudden it is? What's your suggestion for this? Should the GAA provide transport?"
Them Cavan boys will be looking for travel vouchers don't you know lol.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3310 - 16/05/2022 13:43:38    2417700

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Replying To howdareu:  "But would they not support them anyway in the league to try and get up to division two to compete for the Sam Maguire 16?? Itw ould be easier prob to get promoted and more interest in the league than this farce of a thing"
They didn't get to Division 2 and they'll still support them. The do-or-die nature of the Tailteann might produce some cracking games. It ain't perfect but lets give it a go for 2022 because the format is set now.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8150 - 16/05/2022 14:01:32    2417715

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Replying To oneoff:  "Ya that pretty much sums you up right there."
Bigger worm needed bud, back to defending your work now like a good lad.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 16/05/2022 14:16:39    2417723

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Replying To weatherfieldgael:  "There's not one of these games that would have 7,000 people at them no matter what the incentives were. A stand alone final will not get that. A lot of the provincial games aren't even getting it. Football is in a very bad way I think at inter county level, this does nothing to address it."
Well the GAA are damned if they do damned if they don't so aren't they?
Do people want competitive football or not?
If yes, then no offence to Leitrim or Wexford but this is their level and a realistic goal. Beating Dublin or Mayo is not.
I am involved in a club in Wexford and we have moved between the grades over the years in both codes. We don't start the year dreaming of a hiding from St. Martins or Shelmaliers.
GAA people are deluded if they don't see the merits of this competition.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1417 - 16/05/2022 14:35:34    2417742

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I've a huge problem with this north/south split..how many honestly will travel for Wicklow/Waterford??is it only in the final the two sections come together and play a final or does it happen earlier??id like to see it being a success but have serious doubts..what I'm reading as regards down is a worry,players just don't want to play..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2565 - 16/05/2022 14:50:21    2417754

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Replying To Backheel:  "Do you understand the concept of meritocracy?
When you prove yourself good enough to be considered a Sam Maguire team you will play in it. You can do this by getting to division 2, getting to a provincial final or winning the tailteann cup. Cavan have achieved none of these. So they are competing at the level they have proven themselves capable of playing."
This is something he sees no issue with. Just putting teams into a higher grade just for the sake of it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1651 - 16/05/2022 14:51:39    2417757

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Bigger worm needed bud, back to defending your work now like a good lad."
Yet you still replied to the comment...

Do you have any more "radical" ideas for up today?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1651 - 16/05/2022 14:52:57    2417759

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Replying To oneoff:  "A few pages back you said travel wasn't an issue but now all of a sudden it is? What's your suggestion for this? Should the GAA provide transport?"
I'm saying it shouldn't be the driver for splitting on geography, when we've never done it in Qualifiers. There was never any rationale for this in the GAA. And even with holding that view, we can also say that times are tight for some these days, and they'll hold their powder dry on a new tournament when they don't know how seriously their county will take it. I just can't stand this dig at proper supporters that they've made many times. Every county has fair weather supporters, and not everyone can get to every game. Travel distance is but a small part of the day out. Tickets, sending the kids to the shop at half time, stopping for the dinner on the way home. We can understand that a day out is expensive, but not solely due to the travel distance of extra miles. Making it geographic is saving next to nothing, it's all the other things that add on that'll have families wondering if they'll go. Is that hard to understand?

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 16/05/2022 14:53:38    2417760

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Them Cavan boys will be looking for travel vouchers don't you know lol."
Jaysus, a tight Cavan joke. Hilarious. You not got anything original?

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 16/05/2022 15:03:53    2417766

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Sunday 19 June
Example Tailteann Cup semi-finals
Tipperary v Antrim, Croke Park, 2pm - RTE2
Cavan v Westmeath, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE2

Why would people abandon their county in Croke Park, live on national television, when they will stand on the cusp of qualifying for a final and an opportunity to qualify for the Sam Maguire 16?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8974 - 16/05/2022 15:06:09    2417767

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Replying To oneoff:  "Yet you still replied to the comment...

Do you have any more "radical" ideas for up today?"
It's an online forum. His ideas are as valid as anyone's even if we don't agree with them. Better to post up alternative ideas than just knock something but not propose alternatives.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8150 - 16/05/2022 15:10:50    2417770

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Sunday 19 June
Example Tailteann Cup semi-finals
Tipperary v Antrim, Croke Park, 2pm - RTE2
Cavan v Westmeath, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE2

Why would people abandon their county in Croke Park, live on national television, when they will stand on the cusp of qualifying for a final and an opportunity to qualify for the Sam Maguire 16?"
Kerry are well known for bringing loads of supporters to semi finals in Croke Park of course.

weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 16/05/2022 15:12:56    2417772

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Well the GAA are damned if they do damned if they don't so aren't they?
Do people want competitive football or not?
If yes, then no offence to Leitrim or Wexford but this is their level and a realistic goal. Beating Dublin or Mayo is not.
I am involved in a club in Wexford and we have moved between the grades over the years in both codes. We don't start the year dreaming of a hiding from St. Martins or Shelmaliers.
GAA people are deluded if they don't see the merits of this competition."
If they want competitive football they should crack down on heavy spending by the 'elite' counties and/or give the 'weaker' counties the same amount of funds to match the elite spending. They are starting on an uneven playing field already at that carry on. The All Ireland should be like the FA Cup, you don't hear a league two team moaning about meeting a premier league team because there is a prestige there to that particular competition.

weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 16/05/2022 15:15:38    2417775

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Sunday 19 June
Example Tailteann Cup semi-finals
Tipperary v Antrim, Croke Park, 2pm - RTE2
Cavan v Westmeath, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE2

Why would people abandon their county in Croke Park, live on national television, when they will stand on the cusp of qualifying for a final and an opportunity to qualify for the Sam Maguire 16?"
Sunday 19 June
Example Tailteann Cup semi-finals
Tipperary v Antrim, Croke Park, 2pm - RTE2
Cavan v Westmeath, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE2

Why would people abandon their county in Croke Park, live on national television, when they will stand on the cusp of qualifying for a final and an opportunity to qualify for the Sam Maguire 16?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 6584 - 16/05/2022 15:06:09

From a man whose county people stay away from Croke Park until the All-Ireland Final.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 16/05/2022 15:19:02    2417781

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Sunday 19 June
Example Tailteann Cup semi-finals
Tipperary v Antrim, Croke Park, 2pm - RTE2
Cavan v Westmeath, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE2

Why would people abandon their county in Croke Park, live on national television, when they will stand on the cusp of qualifying for a final and an opportunity to qualify for the Sam Maguire 16?"
Kerry have been doing it for years in All-Ireland semi finals. Maybe you can shed some light yourself?

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1477 - 16/05/2022 15:20:49    2417782

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "It's an online forum. His ideas are as valid as anyone's even if we don't agree with them. Better to post up alternative ideas than just knock something but not propose alternatives."
Well I asked him to explain some of his in more detail but he just ignored it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1651 - 16/05/2022 15:39:32    2417797

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I've a huge problem with this north/south split..how many honestly will travel for Wicklow/Waterford??is it only in the final the two sections come together and play a final or does it happen earlier??id like to see it being a success but have serious doubts..what I'm reading as regards down is a worry,players just don't want to play.."
Down didn't want to play in the league or the championship either this year though, if their 2022 results are anything to go by!! The 'Tailteann Cup' needn't feel particularly 'targeted' by Down apathy. Seems like the Mournemen have had more than enough of that to satisfy all 2022 competition.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4288 - 16/05/2022 15:47:05    2417804

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Replying To weatherfieldgael:  "If they want competitive football they should crack down on heavy spending by the 'elite' counties and/or give the 'weaker' counties the same amount of funds to match the elite spending. They are starting on an uneven playing field already at that carry on. The All Ireland should be like the FA Cup, you don't hear a league two team moaning about meeting a premier league team because there is a prestige there to that particular competition."
The FA Cup isn't the primary competition for league two teams. Throwing money at so-called weaker counties isn't enough to improve their standard of football.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8150 - 16/05/2022 16:00:20    2417809

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