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Replying To tiobraid: "The only team Waterford have struggled with in champioship hurling over the last two seasons is Limerick. I dont think they have been good enough to beat them in any of the games but Cahill made big mistakes in all these games particualrly with the positioning of Callum Lyons - played at number 5 he'd put even Tom Morrissey on the back foot for a lot of the game. For me theres no one close to Waterford in terms of being the second best team around. They may not conquer Limerick this year but i think they might close that gap. As a Tipp man I feel we could beat other teams but i dont think we have the players to beat either Limerick or Waterford and i think the other counties are in the same boat. I actually think Waterford may have a stronger 25 than Limerick - albeit not a stronger 1-15, if that makes any sense!" I have to agree with this post. Waterford have the panel now to challenge and they have the experience and suffering at the hands of Limerick to be serious contenders.
Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 23/02/2022 18:31:21
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Replying To Clubgaa: "I have to agree with this post. Waterford have the panel now to challenge and they have the experience and suffering at the hands of Limerick to be serious contenders." I also think they have the right man in charge in Liam Cahill.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2325 - 24/02/2022 11:48:16
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The weekend games will tell a lot, and determine how teams shape up for the last games.
Looking forward to Cork and Limerick. Cork really need to beat them and denials to the contrary have to be taken with a grain of salt! A win would both put Cork in pole position for a final place and do their heads good.
Galway and Wexford be interesting to see how two teams who are probably serious about winning the league but still looking for their right blend do against one another. Again, the winner will be well set for a top spot.
Clare, Waterford and Cats have easy games but the one in Thurles might be interesting. Dublin obviously having league as plausible target and Tipp going well but still slightly experimental.
We beat them last time down there in quarter finals in pre Covid year and would be hopeful of at least a good performance.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3541 - 24/02/2022 13:15:50
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "The weekend games will tell a lot, and determine how teams shape up for the last games.
Looking forward to Cork and Limerick. Cork really need to beat them and denials to the contrary have to be taken with a grain of salt! A win would both put Cork in pole position for a final place and do their heads good.
Galway and Wexford be interesting to see how two teams who are probably serious about winning the league but still looking for their right blend do against one another. Again, the winner will be well set for a top spot.
Clare, Waterford and Cats have easy games but the one in Thurles might be interesting. Dublin obviously having league as plausible target and Tipp going well but still slightly experimental.
We beat them last time down there in quarter finals in pre Covid year and would be hopeful of at least a good performance." With the return of the hurling and camogie leagues, there's plenty of fixtures to look forward to this weekend, while the National Football League also rolls into its second round, with some counties already looking to make up for a poor star
Davidjamson (Laois) - Posts: 4 - 24/02/2022 13:40:52
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "The weekend games will tell a lot, and determine how teams shape up for the last games.
Looking forward to Cork and Limerick. Cork really need to beat them and denials to the contrary have to be taken with a grain of salt! A win would both put Cork in pole position for a final place and do their heads good.
Galway and Wexford be interesting to see how two teams who are probably serious about winning the league but still looking for their right blend do against one another. Again, the winner will be well set for a top spot.
Clare, Waterford and Cats have easy games but the one in Thurles might be interesting. Dublin obviously having league as plausible target and Tipp going well but still slightly experimental.
We beat them last time down there in quarter finals in pre Covid year and would be hopeful of at least a good performance." Good synopsis, Barney, although I'd say Tipp will shade things (it being in Thurles). Cork really need to man up to Limerick. Another massacre (apologies sensitive ppl) would really knock out whatever stuffing is left in them.
Wex/Gal could get tasty…some 'softening up' prior to their championship clash might ensue. I'd expect Galway in their own backyard to prevail.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2231 - 24/02/2022 14:10:14
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Good synopsis, Barney, although I'd say Tipp will shade things (it being in Thurles). Cork really need to man up to Limerick. Another massacre (apologies sensitive ppl) would really knock out whatever stuffing is left in them.
Wex/Gal could get tasty…some 'softening up' prior to their championship clash might ensue. I'd expect Galway in their own backyard to prevail." Would prefer not to show our hand and target Offaly and Cork for now to be honest
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3595 - 24/02/2022 14:20:33
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Replying To tiobraid: "The only team Waterford have struggled with in champioship hurling over the last two seasons is Limerick. I dont think they have been good enough to beat them in any of the games but Cahill made big mistakes in all these games particualrly with the positioning of Callum Lyons - played at number 5 he'd put even Tom Morrissey on the back foot for a lot of the game. For me theres no one close to Waterford in terms of being the second best team around. They may not conquer Limerick this year but i think they might close that gap. As a Tipp man I feel we could beat other teams but i dont think we have the players to beat either Limerick or Waterford and i think the other counties are in the same boat. I actually think Waterford may have a stronger 25 than Limerick - albeit not a stronger 1-15, if that makes any sense!" " I actually think Waterford may have a stronger 25 than Limerick - albeit not a stronger 1-15, if that makes any sense! "
I am of the same opinion and believe that we would need some luck also. Like less injuries or suspensions. Not wishing injuries or suspensions on anyone.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3046 - 24/02/2022 14:26:28
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Would prefer not to show our hand and target Offaly and Cork for now to be honest" Is it an opportunity to know your hand better?
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1468 - 24/02/2022 15:22:31
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Would prefer not to show our hand and target Offaly and Cork for now to be honest" I can see the validity in not showing your hand to Galway. However, in 2018 Limerick laid down a marker in the league to Galway (then AI champs) in their own backyard, from which Galway have really still to recover.
If Wexford mark their card early too, on Sunday, a trip down Slaneyside a few weeks later in the championship might not taste that appetizing. Whereas another league win for Galway (team-building under Henry) would boost their confidence, and make them relish the trip to Wexford Park.
With such a short timeframe between league and championship now, the recovery/rectification period is not what it used to be. It could well prove too short after a league defeat.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2231 - 24/02/2022 15:28:21
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Replying To Ban: "Is it an opportunity to know your hand better?" It is. Chin will likely miss the game with injury though. Hard to know whether to give the newer lads who have played most of the year so far the start and bring on the established lads who have largely missed the year in the 2nd half or the other way around. Probably you are right. Better to put the lads who have missed most of the year on from the start try get some minutes into them and get them up to speed.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 24/02/2022 17:28:22
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Replying To foreveryoung: "I can see the validity in not showing your hand to Galway. However, in 2018 Limerick laid down a marker in the league to Galway (then AI champs) in their own backyard, from which Galway have really still to recover.
If Wexford mark their card early too, on Sunday, a trip down Slaneyside a few weeks later in the championship might not taste that appetizing. Whereas another league win for Galway (team-building under Henry) would boost their confidence, and make them relish the trip to Wexford Park.
With such a short timeframe between league and championship now, the recovery/rectification period is not what it used to be. It could well prove too short after a league defeat." I think you are right but it's easier said than done!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 24/02/2022 17:46:36
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Replying To foreveryoung: "I can see the validity in not showing your hand to Galway. However, in 2018 Limerick laid down a marker in the league to Galway (then AI champs) in their own backyard, from which Galway have really still to recover.
If Wexford mark their card early too, on Sunday, a trip down Slaneyside a few weeks later in the championship might not taste that appetizing. Whereas another league win for Galway (team-building under Henry) would boost their confidence, and make them relish the trip to Wexford Park.
With such a short timeframe between league and championship now, the recovery/rectification period is not what it used to be. It could well prove too short after a league defeat." You are raising that league win ye had in 2018 to an extremely inflated level of importance. Maybe Limerick got a boost from it which helped them in the championship but losing it certainly didnt do any damage to us that we needed to recover from, then or now. The damage that was done to us in 2018 was done by Clare when they brought us to a replay in the All Ireland semi final. It was a game we needed to win first day out to have ourselves fully primed for the Limerick challenge.
The result of the league game between Galway and Wexford on Sunday will have no bearing whatsoever on the championship meeting between the two sides in a few weeks time. Win or lose Galway will know (and certainly Shefflin will know) you get nothing easy in Wexford Park and nothing but the very best performance from Galway will be required if they hope to get a win there in the championship.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2018 - 24/02/2022 19:04:46
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Loving this forum...keep it lit!!!
Now this weekends games are all fairly straight forward
Galway, Cork, Kilkenny, Clare, Tipperary and Waterford all to win.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2573 - 24/02/2022 20:09:25
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Replying To Viking66: "What are you talking about OTM? Think you are confusing me with other posters read the the thread back again." Sorry Viking. That comment of mine was indeed referring to somebody else.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 24/02/2022 21:06:48
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "You are raising that league win ye had in 2018 to an extremely inflated level of importance. Maybe Limerick got a boost from it which helped them in the championship but losing it certainly didnt do any damage to us that we needed to recover from, then or now. The damage that was done to us in 2018 was done by Clare when they brought us to a replay in the All Ireland semi final. It was a game we needed to win first day out to have ourselves fully primed for the Limerick challenge.
The result of the league game between Galway and Wexford on Sunday will have no bearing whatsoever on the championship meeting between the two sides in a few weeks time. Win or lose Galway will know (and certainly Shefflin will know) you get nothing easy in Wexford Park and nothing but the very best performance from Galway will be required if they hope to get a win there in the championship." Just a few points PS
I was at that game in Salthill. We had been eight years in Div 2 and talking to other Limerick Supporters coming out from that game everyone was hugely impressed with win. I have no doubt it gave a huge boost to our young team also. To say that Galway deserved to win that All Ireland is stretching it a little bit. Limerick beat Cork, Tipp and KK and dethroned the All Ireland Champions, with a team, without a single player who played in an All Final before and have backed that win up, with great success since, whereas Galway haven't achieved that much since. Remember also that both teams hit twenty wides apiece that day, so the game was there for the taking by the then vastly more experienced Galway side.
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "You are raising that league win ye had in 2018 to an extremely inflated level of importance. Maybe Limerick got a boost from it which helped them in the championship but losing it certainly didnt do any damage to us that we needed to recover from, then or now. The damage that was done to us in 2018 was done by Clare when they brought us to a replay in the All Ireland semi final. It was a game we needed to win first day out to have ourselves fully primed for the Limerick challenge.
The result of the league game between Galway and Wexford on Sunday will have no bearing whatsoever on the championship meeting between the two sides in a few weeks time. Win or lose Galway will know (and certainly Shefflin will know) you get nothing easy in Wexford Park and nothing but the very best performance from Galway will be required if they hope to get a win there in the championship." Just a few points PS
I was at that game in Salthill. We had been eight years in Div 2 and talking to other Limerick Supporters coming out from that game everyone was hugely impressed with win. I have no doubt it gave a huge boost to our young team also. To say that Galway deserved to win that All Ireland is stretching it a little bit. Limerick beat Cork, Tipp and KK and dethroned the All Ireland Champions, with a team, without a single player who played in an All Final before and have backed that win up, with great success since, whereas Galway haven't achieved that much since. Remember also that both teams hit twenty wides apiece that day, so the game was there for the taking by the then vastly more experienced Galway side.
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Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 25/02/2022 08:12:34
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Replying To katser: "Loving this forum...keep it lit!!!
Now this weekends games are all fairly straight forward
Galway, Cork, Kilkenny, Clare, Tipperary and Waterford all to win." Top quality sledging
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3595 - 25/02/2022 09:41:00
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Sorry Viking. That comment of mine was indeed referring to somebody else." Sound OTM
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 25/02/2022 09:55:06
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Replying To katser: "Loving this forum...keep it lit!!!
Now this weekends games are all fairly straight forward
Galway, Cork, Kilkenny, Clare, Tipperary and Waterford all to win." Wexford/Dublin double it is :-)
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3541 - 25/02/2022 10:02:18
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Replying To katser: "Loving this forum...keep it lit!!!
Now this weekends games are all fairly straight forward
Galway, Cork, Kilkenny, Clare, Tipperary and Waterford all to win." Wexfords experimental young team might have too much for Galways aging core and I expect Limerick to win also but hard to argue with your other picks!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 25/02/2022 10:04:52
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