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Replying To Mickod88:  "I was told that it wasn't the county board, but the organizers of the league competition (Croke Park?) that set the venue's for the games. Fair few involved with the county board that are equally as annoyed with the venue, and that tickets are limited to 7000. Could easily get a few more thousand in there for people that would be willing to stand behind goals on the hill or the far embankment, but this probably wouldn't comply with some nonsense health and safety regs.

Does anyone know is the game being streamed on a GAA Go platform or the likes?"
No harm but likely someone in County board trying to save face by telling you it was those in Croke Park who fixed the game. County boards nominate the grounds for the games and they get rubber stamped above. Dublin elect to play league games in Croke Park. County managers have had big says in games over the last while - Banty preferred Inniskeen but recall he lost majority of games there. They didn't want this in Clones cause it like a home game for Armagh.
And I believe that capacity in Blayney is officially higher than Inniskeen. And parking is no better in Inniskeen unless you there hours before the game, same as any ground. Park at Glencarn or town area in Blayney and you walk to ground in ten minutes, the same as Clones.

TheJackel (Monaghan) - Posts: 18 - 16/01/2023 11:45:29    2452676

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Replying To Monaghanfan123:  "Do people not forget that Vinny was part of Bantys backroom team last year, he was always on Bantys shoulder giving him his take on things."
Banty & McCaugue seemed to pick up all the negative attention, while Vinny & the big money coach from Kerry all get a free pass.
Strange.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 16/01/2023 12:03:33    2452681

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Did anybody buy a season ticket , county and club ;
If so, what club games to you access to ?

Monaghan78 (Monaghan) - Posts: 22 - 16/01/2023 17:24:14    2452749

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Replying To Mickod88:  "I was told that it wasn't the county board, but the organizers of the league competition (Croke Park?) that set the venue's for the games. Fair few involved with the county board that are equally as annoyed with the venue, and that tickets are limited to 7000. Could easily get a few more thousand in there for people that would be willing to stand behind goals on the hill or the far embankment, but this probably wouldn't comply with some nonsense health and safety regs.

Does anyone know is the game being streamed on a GAA Go platform or the likes?"
That sounds about right Micko our county board leader saying nothing to do with me,must have been someone in Dublin that decided to play the game in Blayney,let's get behind Vinny and support him and the teams he selects and give him time, Mc Geeney is into his ninth season

Fit15 (Monaghan) - Posts: 19 - 16/01/2023 18:09:09    2452761

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Replying To TheJackel:  "No harm but likely someone in County board trying to save face by telling you it was those in Croke Park who fixed the game. County boards nominate the grounds for the games and they get rubber stamped above. Dublin elect to play league games in Croke Park. County managers have had big says in games over the last while - Banty preferred Inniskeen but recall he lost majority of games there. They didn't want this in Clones cause it like a home game for Armagh.
And I believe that capacity in Blayney is officially higher than Inniskeen. And parking is no better in Inniskeen unless you there hours before the game, same as any ground. Park at Glencarn or town area in Blayney and you walk to ground in ten minutes, the same as Clones."
It looks like Thejackel mustn't go to any games only mouth about everything, if he thinks that Blaneys parking is the same as Inniskeen, Inniskeen has 1 of the best club grounds in the country and the parking and way there stewards work is a credit ,Blaney on the other hand are a joke for a major senior town club ,the only gd thing bout it ,is the road into armagh.

Blanket (Monaghan) - Posts: 39 - 16/01/2023 18:48:56    2452769

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Replying To Blueblood4life:  "Banty & McCaugue seemed to pick up all the negative attention, while Vinny & the big money coach from Kerry all get a free pass.
Strange."
The reason Buckley or Vinny dont get slack is because Buckley has a proven record in all the counties he has been to.
Vinny entered his first job at senior level as a selector.

Banty & McCague were involved in the shambles of an under 20 team in 2019.
Also last years under 20 team was the worst prepared team I have ever seen in the county and McCague was manager.

This is the reason Vinny doesn't get flack because he hasn't a track record of making a balls of teams.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 16/01/2023 19:04:42    2452770

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Replying To Truecountysupporter:  "Every post you have put up on this page seamusorinn is critical of Banty,it's time you copped on your criticism of him has become an obsession and for you saying their will be great atmosphere in Blaney on the 28th I don't know about that when you can't get a ticket to go the game"
I stated the obvious........"3 lost years under Banty". Maybe I am obsessed with that,but what is your obsession with my posts?

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 16/01/2023 20:47:48    2452780

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Replying To Truecountysupporter:  "Every post you have put up on this page seamusorinn is critical of Banty,it's time you copped on your criticism of him has become an obsession and for you saying their will be great atmosphere in Blaney on the 28th I don't know about that when you can't get a ticket to go the game"
€18 should get you one, or are you one of the "true supporters" that likes to arrive at half time?.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 16/01/2023 20:51:30    2452781

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "I stated the obvious........"3 lost years under Banty". Maybe I am obsessed with that,but what is your obsession with my posts?"
Seamusorinn (usa) was Vinny not part of the Banty management team and the players that played under him as well ,I think you should stick to the golf

Truecountysupporter (Monaghan) - Posts: 17 - 17/01/2023 13:36:04    2452851

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Has an actual squad been announced for the upcoming league ? There wasn't one announced for the mckenna cup.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 17/01/2023 15:12:07    2452873

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Replying To TheJackel:  "No harm but likely someone in County board trying to save face by telling you it was those in Croke Park who fixed the game. County boards nominate the grounds for the games and they get rubber stamped above. Dublin elect to play league games in Croke Park. County managers have had big says in games over the last while - Banty preferred Inniskeen but recall he lost majority of games there. They didn't want this in Clones cause it like a home game for Armagh.
And I believe that capacity in Blayney is officially higher than Inniskeen. And parking is no better in Inniskeen unless you there hours before the game, same as any ground. Park at Glencarn or town area in Blayney and you walk to ground in ten minutes, the same as Clones."
Fair enough - if its lies I was told then its lies that I'm telling!

Any word from anyone on streaming?

Mickod88 (Monaghan) - Posts: 49 - 17/01/2023 16:52:16    2452894

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "The reason Buckley or Vinny dont get slack is because Buckley has a proven record in all the counties he has been to.
Vinny entered his first job at senior level as a selector.

Banty & McCague were involved in the shambles of an under 20 team in 2019.
Also last years under 20 team was the worst prepared team I have ever seen in the county and McCague was manager.

This is the reason Vinny doesn't get flack because he hasn't a track record of making a balls of teams."
Banty pulled out of County cause he was loosing McAnespie n Kierans n didn't want to be the manager to bring Monaghan down. So Corry takes the roll on after numerous managers don't want it. So that'll b his claim to fame I'm afraid especially the way he's handled young players. McCaugue taking on Scotstoun cause Jack McCarron has moved there n he smells a County title.

Monaghanfan123 (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 18/01/2023 18:44:06    2453017

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Replying To Monaghanfan123:  "Banty pulled out of County cause he was loosing McAnespie n Kierans n didn't want to be the manager to bring Monaghan down. So Corry takes the roll on after numerous managers don't want it. So that'll b his claim to fame I'm afraid especially the way he's handled young players. McCaugue taking on Scotstoun cause Jack McCarron has moved there n he smells a County title."
can you explain your comment about how he handled the younger players. ?
he started Mulligan in the Ulster final against Tyrone. [in which he choked]
He persevered with Mohan , even when he was constantly injured, any other manager would have lost patience .
He took Woods and Jones into the senior panel and played them when they weren't injured.
would have played Leonard too, only he was injured also.
If anything Bantry's trust in the younger lads wasn't replicated by their performances when they were given their opportunity.

latefortraining (Monaghan) - Posts: 99 - 19/01/2023 13:37:29    2453087

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Replying To latefortraining:  "can you explain your comment about how he handled the younger players. ?
he started Mulligan in the Ulster final against Tyrone. [in which he choked

He persevered with Mohan , even when he was constantly injured, any other manager would have lost patience .
He took Woods and Jones into the senior panel and played them when they weren't injured.
would have played Leonard too, only he was injured also.
If anything Bantry's trust in the younger lads wasn't replicated by their performances when they were given their opportunity."]I meant the way how Corry handled the younger players in his management role so far not Banty. Yes Banty did introduce the younger player into the squad but I do think he left cause of the older players leaving.

Monaghanfan123 (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 19/01/2023 15:29:11    2453102

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Replying To Monaghanfan123:  "Banty pulled out of County cause he was loosing McAnespie n Kierans n didn't want to be the manager to bring Monaghan down. So Corry takes the roll on after numerous managers don't want it. So that'll b his claim to fame I'm afraid especially the way he's handled young players. McCaugue taking on Scotstoun cause Jack McCarron has moved there n he smells a County title."
Baffling how mccaugue got near an intercounty role.. Now he's taking over a scotstown team that my granny could manage to a county title following their dip into the transfer market......

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 19/01/2023 15:34:33    2453104

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Replying To latefortraining:  "can you explain your comment about how he handled the younger players. ?
he started Mulligan in the Ulster final against Tyrone. [in which he choked

He persevered with Mohan , even when he was constantly injured, any other manager would have lost patience .
He took Woods and Jones into the senior panel and played them when they weren't injured.
would have played Leonard too, only he was injured also.
If anything Bantry's trust in the younger lads wasn't replicated by their performances when they were given their opportunity."]Mulligan, Jones, Irwin & Gallagher were all thought to be the next big prospects, they had 6 ulster minor titles between them, brought into the squad by Banty before they were finished playing u20s. Let's take a look at how that went.
Mulligan - Was never physically ready for senior intercounty football. Has since been dropped and I'm hearing is playing soccer in Monaghan. Wasn't allowed play in the u20 ulster final 2021 which Monaghan lost.
Jones - Since joining the squad has had terrible hamstring injuries which has seen him play little to no football the past 2-3 years. Was carrying a significant injury for the u20 ulster final 2021 which Monaghan lost.
Irwin - Was brought in at 17 to the senior squad 3-4 years ago and has seen little to no return. Was the captain of the 2019 ulster minor winning team, that same team was knocked out in the first round of ulster in u20 comp
Last year to Cavan.
Gallagher - Similar to Jones, brought in to the seniors and has been mishandled since with injury. By all accounts the extent of his injuries are getting to a stage where there is growing concern for him from his club.

This is Bantys making but the Co Boards fault. A manager is just that, he should not get the right to dictate how a county develops or protects its players. We have excellent people working and bringing success to out underage structures the past number of years who's work is being destroyed by mismanagement, selfish and careless decision making.

What is happening to develop these players after all the good work done up too minors? Surely throwing them into a senior set up isn't the best approach!

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 20/01/2023 10:21:56    2453161

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "The reason Buckley or Vinny dont get slack is because Buckley has a proven record in all the counties he has been to.
Vinny entered his first job at senior level as a selector.

Banty & McCague were involved in the shambles of an under 20 team in 2019.
Also last years under 20 team was the worst prepared team I have ever seen in the county and McCague was manager.

This is the reason Vinny doesn't get flack because he hasn't a track record of making a balls of teams."
Was it them that managed to loose a championship match to Antrim?

Mickod88 (Monaghan) - Posts: 49 - 20/01/2023 11:14:32    2453177

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Listening to some previews of the year ahead not too many give Vinnie or the team much of a hope of doing anything. Narrative appears to be nobody wanted the job as the only way is down. V tough div 1 and draw from hell in ulster against a tyrone side who will surely bounce back from their year off last year. Certainly be no complaints about high expectations anyway. For what it is worth wish mgmt and the squad all the best of what is sure to be a v tough year ahead. Biggest worry is not the players that are retired its more the lads who were in the first 15 but have opted out now for travel or whatever. It does seriously weaken a squad like monaghans not to have best players available. Midfield as ever huge issue esp with kearns out. Be happy enough with forwards but just dont see us winning enough ball to supply them. Defence was v poor last year and mgmt will surely need to strengthen to have any hope of survival and a chance in the championship. A win next weekend be massive as Armagh were v close last year to a semi final they'd probably won so definitely top side now. That said being underdogs will suit monaghan in that kind of ulster derby.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 20/01/2023 12:22:22    2453197

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Replying To seanie08:  "Listening to some previews of the year ahead not too many give Vinnie or the team much of a hope of doing anything. Narrative appears to be nobody wanted the job as the only way is down. V tough div 1 and draw from hell in ulster against a tyrone side who will surely bounce back from their year off last year. Certainly be no complaints about high expectations anyway. For what it is worth wish mgmt and the squad all the best of what is sure to be a v tough year ahead. Biggest worry is not the players that are retired its more the lads who were in the first 15 but have opted out now for travel or whatever. It does seriously weaken a squad like monaghans not to have best players available. Midfield as ever huge issue esp with kearns out. Be happy enough with forwards but just dont see us winning enough ball to supply them. Defence was v poor last year and mgmt will surely need to strengthen to have any hope of survival and a chance in the championship. A win next weekend be massive as Armagh were v close last year to a semi final they'd probably won so definitely top side now. That said being underdogs will suit monaghan in that kind of ulster derby."
Maybe might be looking at Mohan out the middle with Bannigan, O Hanlon, Mc Carthy, Jones, Mc Carron and best of the rest in the other spot. Still as good of forward Unit as is about.

Im sure Dessie Ward will be in the middle and he would walk onto any team.

In the backs, management are probably looking to freshen things up, maybe with Loughran and Mc Philiphs getting a sustained run in the team. This would allow Kieran Duffy or Boyle out to the half back line with the other accompanying wylie and mc philiphs. Centre Half seems to be the big problem, not sure if Lavelle is the man either, hes very rash and very prone to fouling. He could be a better man out the middle in a man marking, working role.

Good to see Mc Donnell get a go in goals and if he is delivering the goods in training and challenge games then he should be staking a place and keeping Rory on his toes.

Looking at the quality of players mentioned above we have a pretty strong 15-20 players so dont be surprised if this team actually stay up and are pushing at the top end of the Div 1 table.

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 20/01/2023 12:48:40    2453200

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On separate note good luck to malachy o rourke this weekend. We were v lucky to have him for seven years.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 21/01/2023 09:11:37    2453278

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