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write off Mayo and they will win, give them a chance and they might win, make them favourites and they will get a hammering.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 155 - 20/06/2021 20:23:16    2352222

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Some teams are at a very similar level and are hard to separate, anyway this is what I think post Covid, hopefully

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Donegal
4. Mayo
5. Tyrone
6. Galway
7. Monaghan
=. Armagh
9. Cavan
10. Kildare
11. Meath
=. Roscommon
= Derry
14. Cork
=. Tippeary
16. Clare
17. Westmeath
18. Down
19. Fermanagh
20. Antrim
21. Offaly
22. Limerick
23. Laois
24. Longford
25. Louth
26. Wicklow
27. Carlow
28. Leitrim
29. Sligo
30. Wexford
31. Waterford

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 928 - 20/06/2021 22:38:23    2352253

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "write off Mayo and they will win, give them a chance and they might win, make them favourites and they will get a hammering."
This isn't 2006 lad. Mayo don't take hammerings or did you miss all the games against Dublin who have been tanking everyone else for years?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 21/06/2021 08:39:40    2352273

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "Some teams are at a very similar level and are hard to separate, anyway this is what I think post Covid, hopefully

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Donegal
4. Mayo
5. Tyrone
6. Galway
7. Monaghan
=. Armagh
9. Cavan
10. Kildare
11. Meath
=. Roscommon
= Derry
14. Cork
=. Tippeary
16. Clare
17. Westmeath
18. Down
19. Fermanagh
20. Antrim
21. Offaly
22. Limerick
23. Laois
24. Longford
25. Louth
26. Wicklow
27. Carlow
28. Leitrim
29. Sligo
30. Wexford
31. Waterford"
Cavan in 9th??

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 484 - 21/06/2021 09:36:41    2352278

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "write off Mayo and they will win, give them a chance and they might win, make them favourites and they will get a hammering."
Can hardly agree with that Jack... Mayo have been favourites more often than not over the past decade when playing everyone bar the Dubs and sometimes Kerry and thankfully no hammerings. We got soundly beaten in the second half of the 2019 semi-final by the Dubs and Kerry gave us a decent beating in the super-8s the same year, hence the team rebuild since. But Mayo have consistently performed since Horan first took the reins in 2011 irrespective of the bookmaker's odds.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2447 - 21/06/2021 09:38:56    2352279

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1) Dublin
2) Kerry
3) Donegal
4) Mayo
5) Tyrone
6) Armagh
7) Monaghan
8) Galway
9) Roscommon
10) Kildare
11) Clare
12) Meath
13) Cork
14) Derry
15) Offaly
16) Down
17) Limerick
18 Laois
19) Westmeath
20) Fermanagh
21) Tipperary
22) Cavan
23) Longford
24) Wicklow
25) Antrim
26) Louth
27) Carlow
28) Sligo
29) Wexford
30) Leitrim
31) Waterford

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 484 - 21/06/2021 09:45:32    2352281

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "This isn't 2006 lad. Mayo don't take hammerings or did you miss all the games against Dublin who have been tanking everyone else for years?"
What about that hammering down in Kerry a couple of years ago. Does that not count? You could say the 2012 final was a bit of a hammering with the actual scoreline flattering Mayo at the end.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 21/06/2021 09:54:07    2352285

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Replying To Victorious87:  "1) Dublin
2) Kerry
3) Donegal
4) Mayo
5) Tyrone
6) Armagh
7) Monaghan
8) Galway
9) Roscommon
10) Kildare
11) Clare
12) Meath
13) Cork
14) Derry
15) Offaly
16) Down
17) Limerick
18 Laois
19) Westmeath
20) Fermanagh
21) Tipperary
22) Cavan
23) Longford
24) Wicklow
25) Antrim
26) Louth
27) Carlow
28) Sligo
29) Wexford
30) Leitrim
31) Waterford"
Aw now Cavan and Tipp should be higher than that, we'll have to agree to disagree

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 928 - 21/06/2021 10:25:23    2352293

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "Aw now Cavan and Tipp should be higher than that, we'll have to agree to disagree"
At a stretch the highest I could put them would be over Laois/Westmeath and below Limerick/Down Offaly.

If they played any of the teams above them tomorrow I would bet against them.

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 484 - 21/06/2021 10:33:00    2352296

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "write off Mayo and they will win, give them a chance and they might win, make them favourites and they will get a hammering."
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We haven't been hammered for a while but a 1 point loss is still a defeat. I think there's definitely truth in us being better with the underdog tag though. We need a Jim McGuinness type of character in the management instilling self belief in all the squad including the management and think forward, not dwelling on past failures but working on ways to prevent them happening again and closing out games. Anyways, a good excuse to post full coverage of 2006 semi final, including the mill (bunfight) on the hill, analysis not on the DVD, plus Sunday Game highlights.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 6278 - 21/06/2021 10:37:40    2352298

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "What about that hammering down in Kerry a couple of years ago. Does that not count? You could say the 2012 final was a bit of a hammering with the actual scoreline flattering Mayo at the end."
You picked out one game in over 10 years. Another Donegal account popping at Mayo. You could say the 2012 final was a hammering. Nah you couldn't, seeing as it wasn't good man.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 21/06/2021 11:01:47    2352309

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "What about that hammering down in Kerry a couple of years ago. Does that not count? You could say the 2012 final was a bit of a hammering with the actual scoreline flattering Mayo at the end."
There was nothing on the line for that game in Kerry. We still qualified from the super 8s in the end.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 264 - 21/06/2021 11:05:03    2352310

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Replying To MayoDan:  "There was nothing on the line for that game in Kerry. We still qualified from the super 8s in the end."
I was merely pointing out a counter argument to a poster saying that Mayo don't take hammerings, not since 2006. 2012 All Ireland final was over after 10 minutes.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 21/06/2021 11:12:10    2352312

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You picked out one game in over 10 years. Another Donegal account popping at Mayo. You could say the 2012 final was a hammering. Nah you couldn't, seeing as it wasn't good man."
The game was over after 10 minutes.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 21/06/2021 11:13:04    2352313

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You picked out one game in over 10 years. Another Donegal account popping at Mayo. You could say the 2012 final was a hammering. Nah you couldn't, seeing as it wasn't good man."
In fairness the game was over once the second goal went in.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 359 - 21/06/2021 11:23:16    2352315

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Good old Murphballs as pointed out by more than one poster he is defo a multiple username kinda guy.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 21/06/2021 11:26:09    2352317

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1. Dublin

The rest? Does it matter?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7391 - 21/06/2021 11:35:22    2352322

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "This isn't 2006 lad. Mayo don't take hammerings or did you miss all the games against Dublin who have been tanking everyone else for years?"
Losing by 10 points against Dublin in 2019 is certainly a hammering too.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 359 - 21/06/2021 11:50:44    2352328

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Good old Murphballs as pointed out by more than one poster he is defo a multiple username kinda guy."
It seems that people point that out once they know they have been rightly called out. What has me having multiple accounts got to do with you making stuff up by saying Mayo never get hammered. Truth is they were hammed by Kerry a couple of years ago and whether you like it or not they were beat after 10 minutes in the 2012 final. In saying that, I do feel sorry for you Flaker. You may never see Sam on Mayo soil in your lifetime unless the Dubs go on a nationwide trip around Ireland hitting all the counties that never get the opportunity to bring Sam to the county.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 21/06/2021 11:52:56    2352329

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "It seems that people point that out once they know they have been rightly called out. What has me having multiple accounts got to do with you making stuff up by saying Mayo never get hammered. Truth is they were hammed by Kerry a couple of years ago and whether you like it or not they were beat after 10 minutes in the 2012 final. In saying that, I do feel sorry for you Flaker. You may never see Sam on Mayo soil in your lifetime unless the Dubs go on a nationwide trip around Ireland hitting all the counties that never get the opportunity to bring Sam to the county."
You're surely a Kilkybegs fisherman Murph or out that direction? Looking to add Mayo catch to your range to accompany the Donegal catch. Effectively it was over after those two goals. I was in the Hill and got a good look at them. McGuinness had spotted a weakness and this was a game plan, well rehearsed, for them to get goals early. I don't think that was the winning of it though. What won it for ye was that McGuinness had ye so focused and calm that ye kept us at arms lengths and if we came within 3 or 4 points ye'd go back up the pitch and tack on a score. Not a bit of panic from any Donegal player on the day.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 6278 - 21/06/2021 12:16:05    2352337

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