Hah ha Murdoch mediaman - first you want extensive coverage Lillie v Everton ! on RTE and now coverage of some French rugby players disciplinary process where he had already pleaded guilty. Ba haha . Just buy a subscription French tv ffs, these stories are of no interest to Ireland or just non stories, of course rte don't cover them

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 06/11/2014 13:13:53    1670098

Bad monkey why don't Rte just decide to show sports by pulling them out of a hat, show croquet and bob slaying instead of gaa, soccer or rugby for example. Ormond i complained in the past to Rte and only got back a predictable corporate reply with no change happening. The amount of coverage and the tone of there coverage the give to rugby compared to gaa shows there bias to rugby. Not everyone that goes to rugby goes to watch rugby for example i was at the Ireland- New Zealand match last year and the amount of people who missed our first two tries because the were queuing at the bar downstairs was shocking, similarly every time Johnny Sexton lines up a kick the were rushing out to get a drink ignoring the kick, it not only the international rules games that people go to for other reasons.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 06/11/2014 13:40:38    1670115

Why cbother over the fact that the French player had been cited at all then bad.monkey? O'Connor's suspension was of interest to the Irish but this wasn't covered by much of the media either, seems a strange way of doing things. Using your reasoning, the fact that the Derry county final took place in an area where there are no RTE licence payers suggests the suspensions for that should have not have been covered by RTE, yet it got top billing.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 06/11/2014 14:23:03    1670151

The RTE website is currently carrying a 250 word preview of the France/Fiji friendly match. It would appear it's only the suspension of French rugby internationals for kicking Irish players in the head which doesn't merit RTE coverage.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 06/11/2014 15:03:29    1670176

Thankfully a full report on RTE website of the return tie between Lillie and Everton. Now hopefully they start to show live Boules from some obscure village in Nice for you mediaman

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 07/11/2014 09:41:41    1670360

RTE's coverage of today's friendly rugby games once again highlights the station's partisan approach to 'violent' incidents. There were two such violent incidents in the first half of the Ireland South Africa game, a forearm to the head of an Irish player and a flurry of punches to the head of another Irish player. Neither merited even a passing mention by the panel at half time. Can you imagine the uproar if either had happened in football or hurling? The RTE website confirms this bias when describing the earlier England NZ game. It tells us 'There has been a bit of a row over very little on the England line.' RTE usually describes a bit of a row in football or hurling as a 'brawl'. The website later says 'Dane Coles is getting 10 in the bin for an innocuous kick'. Again can you imagine how that would been reported had it happened in Croke Park? One final one for now. The RTE website shows highlights from the 1998 Ireland SA game including regular brawls, fist fights and players being kicked on the ground. The accompanying text describes those involved as 'combatants'. How very gallant!

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 08/11/2014 18:41:28    1670718

08/11/2014 18:41:28 mediaman
RTE's coverage of today's friendly rugby games once again highlights the station's partisan approach to 'violent' incidents. There were two such violent incidents in the first half of the Ireland South Africa game, a forearm to the head of an Irish player and a flurry of punches to the head of another Irish player. Neither merited even a passing mention by the panel at half time. Can you imagine the uproar if either had happened in football or hurling? The RTE website confirms this bias when describing the earlier England NZ game. It tells us 'There has been a bit of a row over very little on the England line.' RTE usually describes a bit of a row in football or hurling as a 'brawl'. The website later says 'Dane Coles is getting 10 in the bin for an innocuous kick'. Again can you imagine how that would been reported had it happened in Croke Park? One final one for now. The RTE website shows highlights from the 1998 Ireland SA game including regular brawls, fist fights and players being kicked on the ground. The accompanying text describes those involved as 'combatants'. How very gallant! You have an issue with rugby and its coverage. You have an issue with RTE and their coverage but other than commenting here what are you doing about it.
Why did those incidents need to be referred to at halftime? They were dealt with by the officials or will be by citing officer if necessary. That is something you need to take up with GAA writers and journalists. They choose to write about incidents in the manner they do. Rugby journalists don't. Your anti rugby ramblings are getting funnier day by day as we go on..

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/11/2014 19:26:11    1670728

well done Ireland Rugby for win.Now How can the GAA counteract the bias of the D4 Rugby brigade? It is difficult. In fairness the South African got sin binned for his tackle. Lets hope the upcoming International Rules game will not contain too many incidents, that just gives the D4 media a chance to carp and complain.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2651 - 08/11/2014 19:37:52    1670733

08/11/2014 18:41:28 mediaman
RTE's coverage of today's friendly rugby games once again highlights the station's partisan approach to 'violent' incidents. There were two such violent incidents in the first half of the Ireland South Africa game, a forearm to the head of an Irish player and a flurry of punches to the head of another Irish player. Neither merited even a passing mention by the panel at half time. Can you imagine the uproar if either had happened in football or hurling? The RTE website confirms this bias when describing the earlier England NZ game. It tells us 'There has been a bit of a row over very little on the England line.' RTE usually describes a bit of a row in football or hurling as a 'brawl'. The website later says 'Dane Coles is getting 10 in the bin for an innocuous kick'. Again can you imagine how that would been reported had it happened in Croke Park? One final one for now. The RTE website shows highlights from the 1998 Ireland SA game including regular brawls, fist fights and players being kicked on the ground. The accompanying text describes those involved as 'combatants'. How very gallant! Why don't you contact RTE about their supposedly poor coverage of sport?
Forearm to head wasn't great but shit happens and incidents like that occur regularly in the contact zone. Punches weren't mentioned as there wasn't a need for any more coverage of the incident. That is an issue for GAA reporters if they use such terms. Its "GAA men" who you should be criticising.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/11/2014 19:54:45    1670737

Fantastic performance by Ireland today - Sexton, McGrath, Ruddock and the rest . Really could be a huge year next year for Irish rugby. RTE analysts were spot on after , one of Ireland's greatest wins

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 08/11/2014 21:27:30    1670759

Why bad monkey? Because its a world cup year and Ireland might do well at it?
Kind of a bandwagon thing?

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 08/11/2014 21:51:26    1670768

Yesterday's rugby game typifies what this whole thread is about. "One of Ireland's greatest ever wins"!!?? It was a glorified challenge game, with nothing at stake, yet it got the full hype treatment from RTE leading up to, and during the game. And before Ormond or Tinryland respond with something about world rankings, realistically there's no danger that Ireland won't qualify for the next world cup: the pool of rugby-playing countries is so small that that's not really a possibility. I had the misfortune of watching the 15 minutes of the game prior to half-time - it was dire stuff altogether - and I was expecting (in vain) some Spillane/Brolly style analysis. Instead we heard about heroic defending and intensity. Hook had a go at the ref (I thought criticism of refs was taboo among the rugby fraternity??) but otherwise it was all positive. Now...wait for the hype machine to get started this week on the titanic struggle that awaits us when the boys in green tackle the mighty...Georgia... in another "must-win" battle full of heroic combatants.

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 09/11/2014 10:59:12    1670800

Fantastic performance by Ireland today - Sexton, McGrath, Ruddock and the rest . Really could be a huge year next year for Irish rugby. RTE analysts were spot on after , one of Ireland's greatest wins
08/11/2014 21:51:26
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Why bad monkey? Because its a world cup year and Ireland might do well at it?
Kind of a bandwagon thing?


Because they have a great chance to win back to back 6 nations playing France and England at home. They also have a very good squad now to challenge in the World Cup. Do to understand the bandwagon question?

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 09/11/2014 14:07:09    1670835

Poor coverage by RTE radio this afternoon. There was more live coverage from the EPL borefest and a basketball game than from any of the club games. I also assume that the next rugby international challenge game against some hungover holiday side will be interrupted by an interview with Fitzmaurice about the All Ireland football final :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 09/11/2014 15:49:28    1670856

True to form RTE placed a rugby non story ahead of the football and hurling club championship reports at 7.35am this morning. Item 1 was a serious soccer item so no real problem there but item 2 began with the presenter telling us that there was no news yet on the already much reported injuries in the Irish rugby camp ahead of next weekend's friendly match. Just think about that. Since when did no news constitute news? And even better this no news news story was slipped in ahead of real sports news that is item 3, the review of yesterday's club championships. The RTE Sports Department seems determined to have a rugby item on every bulletin no matter what and even that isn't enough, no matter how manufactured the rugby item is, it still has to be placed ahead of football and hurling just to let us know what, in their D4 opinion, really matters to the nation. As long as RTE Sport exists the IRFU will have no need to pay expensive PR companies to get their unchallenged messages across to an unsuspecting Irish public.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 10/11/2014 18:36:16    1671210

08/11/2014 21:27:30
bad.monkey
Fantastic performance by Ireland today - Sexton, McGrath, Ruddock and the rest . Really could be a huge year next year for Irish rugby. RTE analysts were spot on after , one of Ireland's greatest wins It wasn't really one of Ireland's greatest wins. Not so sure on that but 2015 could definitely be a huge year
08/11/2014 21:51:26 joncarter
Why bad monkey? Because its a world cup year and Ireland might do well at it?
Kind of a bandwagon thing? No bandwagon just simply we could go on and get back to back championships for first time in ages and then go on and make our best ever performance in a world cup

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/11/2014 20:54:18    1671251

09/11/2014 10:59:12 football first
Yesterday's rugby game typifies what this whole thread is about. "One of Ireland's greatest ever wins"!!?? It was a glorified challenge game, with nothing at stake, yet it got the full hype treatment from RTE leading up to, and during the game. And before Ormond or Tinryland respond with something about world rankings, realistically there's no danger that Ireland won't qualify for the next world cup: the pool of rugby-playing countries is so small that that's not really a possibility. I had the misfortune of watching the 15 minutes of the game prior to half-time - it was dire stuff altogether - and I was expecting (in vain) some Spillane/Brolly style analysis. Instead we heard about heroic defending and intensity. Hook had a go at the ref (I thought criticism of refs was taboo among the rugby fraternity??) but otherwise it was all positive. Now...wait for the hype machine to get started this week on the titanic struggle that awaits us when the boys in green tackle the mighty...Georgia... in another "must-win" battle full of heroic combatants. Glorified challenge game is a very unfair comment.
There was plenty at stake. Beating a top tier side before world cup, one who has recently beaten the worlds top ranked side. World Rankings is vital as being top 4 is great for mindset etc
Why would you want Brolly etc style analysis?
They were right to talk about the defence like that. Hook queried calls by the referee. OTT criticism and criticism by players/coaches is taboo but an analyst in a studio is very different

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/11/2014 20:57:43    1671255

this thread is about rte yet seems i cannot post ?
did anybody else not find it very unfair that this friendly match in rugby
was given a full hour build up on rte before the match
yet for the all ireland football semi final between kerry and mayo
in a completly new venue after a week of high talking points over the choosing of the venue
for the panel to discuss, it was only given 15 mins on rte before throw in

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2014 09:40:11    1671298

It is off season for GAA now. So coverage will not be too much on RTE sports. I would like to see a bit more Gaeilge on the RTE GAA coverage. To me the two are intertwined Gaelic language and GAA. The "Seo Sport" on TG4 is good, it features Gaelic speakers. Anyway the big story this month will be the International Rules match. Lets hope it is good and clean. It is imho important to balance the Soccer and Rugby Nationalism

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2651 - 11/11/2014 09:51:52    1671304

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It is off season for GAA now. So coverage will not be too much on RTE sports. I would like to see a bit more Gaeilge on the RTE GAA coverage. To me the two are intertwined Gaelic language and GAA. The "Seo Sport" on TG4 is good, it features Gaelic speakers. Anyway the big story this month will be the International Rules match. Lets hope it is good and clean. It is imho important to balance the Soccer and Rugby Nationalism

I am not sure it can be both being honest. Good in this 'sport' means that there is heap of flakin and beltin...clean means Ireland are hammering 'em out the gate....

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 11/11/2014 10:34:31    1671316