Tinyland it is rubbish to say there is violent scenes at the end of matches every week, the vast majority of games in a sporting manner and to say in other sports there is no violence is rubbish. Mediaman i would agree with you about the coverage of county finals in general and the international rules as well. The local stations outside Dublin give better coverage to Gaa, it must be a group think in the dublin media. A lot of them are owned by the same individual.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 28/10/2014 21:56:51    1667932

Also mediaman you would have to compare the limited coverage the give to the international squad announcement to the weeks of coverage the give to the lions squad announcement. One of the most common excuses from Rte defenders on here is other sports have an international element to them well this is footballs international element and shinty which got little to no coverage the last 2 weeks is hurling's international element.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 28/10/2014 22:01:29    1667934

Tinryland only posts here to attack "the gah" and defend that borefest of a game that hardly anyone here bothers their backside to actually go to watch in person rather than on TV. There were twice as many people at the Dublin county final and more at most other county finals than at the game to decide who won the League of Ireland!

I wouldn't pay much attention to what the Dublin commercial radio stations apart from Newstalk do. They have barely any connection to either Dublin or Irish culture in general.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 29/10/2014 09:26:51    1667953

So mediaman you were happy to suggest because there are only 24 competitive women's rugby teams in Ireland (incorrect) that they should not receive as much coverage. There are 0 competitive International Rules teams so by your own logic (!) you must agree the International Rules series should receive no coverage at all from RTE...

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 29/10/2014 13:33:40    1668032

28/10/2014 16:55:41 tinrylandman
Mediaman dd you contact the rte news about the lack of coverage of the disgraceful scenes At the end of the Derry county final last week , these scenes are happening every week in the GAA and a blind eye is being turned to them all by the media and dont tell me the same is happening in other sports because its not I doubt he has contacted RTE news but its the only way he and others who have issues with RTE will get answers to their issues about coverage in the media of the GAA
28/10/2014 21:42:52 mediaman
RTE News has surpassed itself once more. Tonight's 9 o'clock news included an item on the International Rules panel for the game in Perth. And guess what? Par for the course they showed footage of violent scenes from a past Ireland Australia match. Nothing unusual for RTE to do that where football or hurling are concerned but the footage they used was from 1984. That's 30 year old clips being used to preview a game next month. Remember the All-Ireland hurling final preview? RTE did something similar then as well. The question is why? Has anyone ever seen a match in other sport being previewed on RTE using violent clips from past matches? This can't be co-incidence. Can it? Its the International Rules, huge amount of people solely watch it for the fighting....
Did you or will you write a letter/send an email to RTE to ask why they used such a clip?
29/10/2014 09:26:51 hurlingdub
Tinryland only posts here to attack "the gah" and defend that borefest of a game that hardly anyone here bothers their backside to actually go to watch in person rather than on TV. There were twice as many people at the Dublin county final and more at most other county finals than at the game to decide who won the League of Ireland!
I wouldn't pay much attention to what the Dublin commercial radio stations apart from Newstalk do. They have barely any connection to either Dublin or Irish culture in general. How in gods name to most radio stations have "barely any connection to irish culture in general". Very outlandish statement there hurlingdub

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/10/2014 13:53:09    1668040

Bas monkey using your logic there should be very little coverage of the irish international rugby/soccer teams seen as there is one team at each grade. By the way there is 10 times as many ladies football teams as women's rugby teams. It is would be a waste of time complaining to rte as long as Nugent is head of sport.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 29/10/2014 20:53:00    1668198

Ormond where is your proof that people watch it solely for the fighting. There is some top quality sport men involved on both sides. Are you talking rubbish yet again.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 29/10/2014 20:55:58    1668199

29/10/2014 20:53:00 ROS1
Bas monkey using your logic there should be very little coverage of the irish international rugby/soccer teams seen as there is one team at each grade. By the way there is 10 times as many ladies football teams as women's rugby teams. It is would be a waste of time complaining to rte as long as Nugent is head of sport. That isn't using the logic he used at all. Vile Nugent is just one person, he isn't a dictator and using that as an excuse for not complaining/writing to RTE is ridiculous considering contacting RTE is one of the only ways you(the dis-satisfied consumer) can make issues out of what you feel is incorrect delegation of RTE resources in favour of 1 sport over another
29/10/2014 20:55:58 ROS1
Ormond where is your proof that people watch it solely for the fighting. There is some top quality sport men involved on both sides. Are you talking rubbish yet again. My club, when I played hurling/gaelic, took us(u14s and 16s) to Dublin to the international rules. Most of the players(my team-mates) solely were interested in the fighting that may take place and were not going up for the football considering we never bothered train too much or care for the gaelic championship each year

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/10/2014 21:09:14    1668203

so your making a generalisation based on a few people you know?...strong argument there ormond...if somebody said something similar on womens rugby or rugby itself then you would attack them for it and dont pretend otherwise

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 29/10/2014 21:38:14    1668210

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1668198
Bas monkey using your logic there should be very little coverage of the irish international rugby/soccer teams seen as there is one team at each grade. By the way there is 10 times as many ladies football teams as women's rugby teams.


I fully agree, my point was it would be ridiculous for RTE to base decisions on participation levels. They would never be able to show any films as there are so few registered actors in Ireland.

I would estimate their are more than 10 times as many women's football teams than rugby teams

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 30/10/2014 10:17:23    1668236

The Toulon player cited for kicking an Ulster player in the head has been suspended for three weeks. Check it out on You Tube. The suspension which was announced following a hearing in Dublin was covered by the BBC, Sky Sports and the Irish Times websites before 6 o,clock today. The suspension has yet to be covered on the RTE Sport website and it wasn't mentioned on the 9 o'clock news three hours later. Amazing considering the usual blanket coverage RTE Sport gives rugby.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 30/10/2014 21:46:22    1668540

The ball was there sir! just happened to be a head in the way.

Now we have issues with some of the disciplinary committees in the GAA but I find this a bit hard to take. You kick someone in the head and just because you are nice at the disciplinary meeting you get a 25% reduction in your sentence. In the GAA that would have been min 8 weeks with no time off for good behavior!

As there were no aggravating factors, he reduced the suspension by one week due to the player's good conduct during the hearing

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2034 - 31/10/2014 09:00:56    1668554

11am Friday. Now 17 hours since the suspension of the Toulon player for kicking an Ulster player in the head. No sign of a report on the RTE website yet?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 31/10/2014 11:08:39    1668585

31/10/2014 09:00:56 zinny
The ball was there sir! just happened to be a head in the way.
Now we have issues with some of the disciplinary committees in the GAA but I find this a bit hard to take. You kick someone in the head and just because you are nice at the disciplinary meeting you get a 25% reduction in your sentence. In the GAA that would have been min 8 weeks with no time off for good behavior!

As there were no aggravating factors, he reduced the suspension by one week due to the player's good conduct during the hearing The suspension was also reduced due to players previous clean record. Rugby's disciplinary system is very good and generally gets things right nearly every time. Nothing wrong with reducing ban due to a player not contesting the charges(admitting guilt) and previous good behaviour
31/10/2014 11:08:39 mediaman
11am Friday. Now 17 hours since the suspension of the Toulon player for kicking an Ulster player in the head. No sign of a report on the RTE website yet?Have you contacted RTE about why there isn't such a report on the website?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/11/2014 19:18:55    1668896

More than 2 days now since the paultry 3 week suspension handed out to the Toulon player for kicking an Ulster player in the head ( resulting in concussion ) and still no mention of it on the RTE Sport website. Peter Clohessy.received a 26 week suspension for a similar offence although in his new book he makes light of what he did 'I only leaned on his head with my boot'. I'm sure the French player saw the funny side of it too when he was having his head stitched. There's only one thing worse than making light of these 'ugly' incidents. That's when you completely ignore them.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 01/11/2014 20:08:28    1668916

Mediaman did you hear about the player kicked in the head in the first round of the championship in Carlow , probably not because it was igmored by everyone including the county board and also why have not answered why the shocking scenes in the Derry championship were not covered by RTE

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 01/11/2014 20:21:17    1668918

01/11/2014 20:08:28 mediaman
More than 2 days now since the paultry 3 week suspension handed out to the Toulon player for kicking an Ulster player in the head ( resulting in concussion ) and still no mention of it on the RTE Sport website. Peter Clohessy.received a 26 week suspension for a similar offence although in his new book he makes light of what he did 'I only leaned on his head with my boot'. I'm sure the French player saw the funny side of it too when he was having his head stitched. There's only one thing worse than making light of these 'ugly' incidents. That's when you completely ignore them.Have you ever contacted any of the irish media as surely sending 30 odd emails/letters etc to irish journalists and newspapers would be better use than 30 posts complaining here
The incident with the claw was 20 years ago and was much worse than this. incidents similar to this do get bans if deemed that they should
01/11/2014 20:21:17 tinrylandman
Mediaman did you hear about the player kicked in the head in the first round of the championship in Carlow , probably not because it was igmored by everyone including the county board and also why have not answered why the shocking scenes in the Derry championship were not covered by RTE fair point

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/11/2014 21:09:59    1668931

The RTE website has a very long and largely negative column re the problem's in football. It's a good example of RTE think focusing on an uninspiring football final rather than two thrilling semi-finals. The words 'ugly' and 'uglified' (didn't know that was a word) are used in the course of the article which stands in stark contrast to RTE's recent rugby coverage. Not alone did they ignore the Toulon suspension but there was not one negative word written on the RTE website about the tackle that left a Glasgow player unconscious or indeed the Toulon kick in the head.The truth means all the truth not just in relation to one sport. RTE Sport is in the dock in regard to the true story of rugby violence. Time for change.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 03/11/2014 20:54:29    1669504

Good to see RTE is back reporting suspensions again. This morning's main bulletins carried details of the Ballinderry suspensions and the RTE website included the item in its headlines section. Serious incidents always merit coverage which is why it is impossible to understand why RTE still have not made any reference to the suspension arising from an Ulster rugby player being kicked in the head. They report football suspensions but not rugby suspensions. Baffling? And given the fact that the Toulon player had his suspension reduced from 4 weeks to 3 because he presented himself so well at the hearing it might be a good idea for the Ballinderry players to wear suits, polish their shoes and have some elocution lessons before going before the Derry County Board. That should reduce their suspensions by at least 6 months.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 06/11/2014 11:29:58    1670051

03/11/2014 20:54:29 mediaman
The RTE website has a very long and largely negative column re the problem's in football. It's a good example of RTE think focusing on an uninspiring football final rather than two thrilling semi-finals. The words 'ugly' and 'uglified' (didn't know that was a word) are used in the course of the article which stands in stark contrast to RTE's recent rugby coverage. Not alone did they ignore the Toulon suspension but there was not one negative word written on the RTE website about the tackle that left a Glasgow player unconscious or indeed the Toulon kick in the head.The truth means all the truth not just in relation to one sport. RTE Sport is in the dock in regard to the true story of rugby violence. Time for change. Of course you will see a focus on a boring final over two exciting semi finals. Happens in all sports as the final will be what is remembered not the semi finals and a boring final after two exciting semi finals is a huge let down and disappointment
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06/11/2014 11:29:58 mediaman
Good to see RTE is back reporting suspensions again. This morning's main bulletins carried details of the Ballinderry suspensions and the RTE website included the item in its headlines section. Serious incidents always merit coverage which is why it is impossible to understand why RTE still have not made any reference to the suspension arising from an Ulster rugby player being kicked in the head. They report football suspensions but not rugby suspensions. Baffling? And given the fact that the Toulon player had his suspension reduced from 4 weeks to 3 because he presented himself so well at the hearing it might be a good idea for the Ballinderry players to wear suits, polish their shoes and have some elocution lessons before going before the Derry County Board. That should reduce their suspensions by at least 6 months. Rugby suspensions are covered and referred to on a regular basis on RTE. Its part of system in rugby to reward, those who don't appeal their punishments, don't disrespect the disciplinary process, with a slightly reduced sentence as a deterrent to future incidents

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/11/2014 12:02:58    1670064