If the international rules is scrapped for not being competitive should the Munster Football Championship etc also be scrappped?
There are routs in gaelic football matches too between mismatched teams.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1677 - 28/10/2013 15:10:41    1506757

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Ah come on, the tackling is NOTHING like the AFL, the scoring is just two extra poles at the side which is much easier to adapt to then the goal scoring system which is alien to the aussies. Whoever scores the most goals wins the match and even the aussies don't seem to know the rules about the mark.The rules are completly lobsided.
Scoring-Ireland
Tackling-Ireland
Mark-Australia
Ball-Ireland
Goalkeeping-Ireland

You obviously know sweet FA about Gaelic if you think the tackle is to Ireland's advantage!

Mike_Clitoris69 (Cavan) - Posts: 230 - 28/10/2013 15:17:59    1506759

REDANDBLACK30
County: Down

If the international rules is scrapped for not being competitive should the Munster Football Championship etc also be scrappped?
There are routs in gaelic football matches too between mismatched teams.



On the subject of mismatches, it would be a good idea
for the Ulster council to scrap the Tyrone/Down
preliminary match next year, it wont reflect well on
the Ulster championship when Tyrone spank Down (who
might not even field a team)... again!
Best to save Ulster and Down's blushes by starting
them off in the backdoor with teams of a similar level!
These mismatches are not good for the game! LOL ;)

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 28/10/2013 21:56:08    1506903

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If the international rules is scrapped for not being competitive should the Munster Football Championship etc also be scrappped?
There are routs in gaelic football matches too between mismatched teams.

Spurious logic there RedandBlack. The Munster championship has lots of competitive games. Let us say that all combinations of games involving Cork or Kerry versus one of the others was non-competitive (they were this year but not always) - that would mean there were 8 noncompetitive pairings. There are 7 other competitive pairings. Of course I am speaking about the senior championship here also. The minor and under 21 championship is more competitive again. Take the International Rules, there are 2 teams and there are no competitive games (again this year but not always). To answer the question, solely based on your logic, keep the Munster championship and dump this other rubbish.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/10/2013 09:32:11    1506917

Question is TheGateKeeper, will Down be sending an 'indigenous' team to play us?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 29/10/2013 10:01:49    1506922

Surely that series is enough to put a nail in that coffin so to speak, can't understand why GAA and AFL continue with it maybe it's the free trips for the back room ?

2winjustonce (Mayo) - Posts: 65 - 29/10/2013 10:17:47    1506930

Gatekeeper I wouldnt say to much about the Down match.I think Down will win, the new black card will be a disaster for the masters of
cynicism.If Joe Brolly is correct and cynical play is being coached at all levels in Tyrone you cant unlearn that in seven months?As Tyrone make an average a 5-6 cynical fouls a game according to most analysis they will finish with 12-13 players? Down can beat anyone on their day and will have a numerical advantage.Besides if Down do win it will make for a good match against Monaghan like the
2012 Ulster semi final instead of another rugby match like the All Ireland quarter final this year?? lol

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1677 - 29/10/2013 10:46:29    1506941

I fail to see how the mark is to Australia's advantage. How often have any of them caught a round ball in their lives, while our lads are doing in every day. The fact you get a free for making a catch you'd make anyway makes NO difference

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 29/10/2013 10:47:48    1506942

I think the Munster Championship should be retained. In the year Cork won the All Ireland
in 2010 Limerick took them to extra time? This year though it was a cake walk for Cork
and Kerry through the final.Im just saying one sided games are not a reason to dump the
series.Good sides can have a bad day, like Donegal who were thrashed by Mayo this year.
If Cork and Kerry are not a level ahead of Clare,Limerick,Tipperary and Waterford why
has an unfair seeding system been put in place?

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1677 - 29/10/2013 11:31:36    1506958

Scrap it. It's worse and worse every year. No place in the calendar for it. Terrible standard. Australians don't want it. Robs clubs of their players after not having them all year. It's a joke. SCRAP IT.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2573 - 29/10/2013 13:49:47    1507018

REDANDBLACK30
County: Down
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If Cork and Kerry are not a level ahead of Clare,Limerick,Tipperary and Waterford why
has an unfair seeding system been put in place?

I don't know being honest. I don't necessarily agree with it.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/10/2013 13:55:33    1507027

The seeding system is totally wrong,you are right.I think the Munster Championship
should be retained as it gives Clare,Limerick,Waterford and Tipperary a chance,
albeit a slim one to win a title.With the new seeding system the chance of them
winning is almost non existent.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1677 - 29/10/2013 14:07:28    1507032

Maybe we could send a Squad from the 6 counties to Australia next year to show much it means for the people of the North to represent their part of the Country :)

If players are keen to play then I don't see why it should be scapped, In 2010 Australia sent over a strong Squad and beat Ireland twice, people have short memories.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2868 - 29/10/2013 16:06:16    1507109

Thats right Fools gold.If u go back through all the international
rules series it is Ireland 9 Australia 8? Doesnt get much closer
than that. The 6 county team idea is a non runner though as it
would give credence to the idea that it is a separate country
rather than a part of a country held by an illegal occupation
by a foreign power like the rest of Ireland was up to 1921.
That would be another sop to unionism by the GAA,there has
been too many lately.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1677 - 29/10/2013 16:39:02    1507130

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Maybe we could send a Squad from the 6 counties to Australia next year to show much it means for the people of the North to represent their part of the Country :)

If players are keen to play then I don't see why it should be scapped, In 2010 Australia sent over a strong Squad and beat Ireland twice, people have short memories.

If Paul Early (or whoever) is told strictly that the only players that he can pick are players that have no club commitments for the remainder of the year then let them off but it is simply scandalous that club players (who are also keen to play as it happens - let us not overlook the vast majority here) should have their county finals postponed for this - which is what happened in Cork.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/10/2013 17:25:47    1507151

Ah I know. I wasn't being serious about the 6 county idea it would have too many issues. It was just a thought after the Aussies sent an indigenous team here this year,

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2868 - 29/10/2013 17:28:05    1507153

Would it be possible to scrap the actual hybrid game, and play the series as one Aussie rules match and one Gaelic football match? So, using the same panel of players, the first test would be in one code (i.e. Aussie rules), and the second test would be in the other code (i.e Gaelic football). As the same panel would be used for both, it wouldn't necessarily be the best of each code playing each other, rather the players most capable of playing both codes (so the Irish team might consist of players in the AFL or with AFL experience, while the Aussie panel would consist of players who could also handle a Gaelic football match). Not sure if any Irish stadia would be suitable for a full game of Aussie rules, but to be honest, I think it'd make for a more interesting venture, without compromising either code.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 29/10/2013 17:41:51    1507155

Benny to be fair it just about better organisation from County boards, starting and finishing Championships in time. Sheehan and Walsh were invoved in Hurling finals in Cork, probably played latter then usual due to Cork getting to the All Ireland final.

Situation where Michael Murphy had County final the day after first test was crazy. Donegal had been out of the Championship since the first week in August and delayed the Club Championship far too long...

All County finals if possible should be wrapped up by first weekend in October, not dragging on and on and on. Where club players become frustrated over the summer with f all football.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2868 - 29/10/2013 17:47:24    1507161

I think we should send a Womens team over there next year. That would even things up a bit.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 29/10/2013 18:53:31    1507208

Does this mean that we will hear calls from the 6 ulster counties that we rename the all ire or scrap it?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/10/2013 19:01:55    1507217