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Getting hard to watch now. We've been absolutely shafted in the last five minutes.

This game will stand to us though.

Brilliant for a second string Wexford team to be giving Kilkenny this much to think about

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 04/02/2024 15:16:39    2524215

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Getting hard to watch now. We've been absolutely shafted in the last five minutes.

This game will stand to us though.

Brilliant for a second string Wexford team to be giving Kilkenny this much to think about"
Starting to think it mightnt be that far off championship team. Lot of lads obviously havent been good enough last few years too. Add in Rory for sure and if Liam Ryan can stay fit. Mac isn't a guaranteed started, has to win his place. Liam Og if he can stay fit too. The way Rossiter playing is the best way to get results for and I'm not sure Matt and Dee would have the legs for it. Great impact subs though. Its a tough game to play, especially on the engine and pace and not sure Mac suits that, good option to have for a change in approach during a game, Liam Ryan would be able to play it quiet well, Liam Og too if he's back to full fitness, Dee has slowed down last few years but great lad to have to bring on, Matt great servant but pace was never his strong point even in his peak and can't see him starting 6 ahead of Reck or full back. But another great lad and won't let you down. Have to do something different, last 4 years have been poor and usually last 10 mins have shown a lack of legs and options in the tighter games, think Clare 22 etc. Need energy and legs for the game wexford are trying to play.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 04/02/2024 15:37:06    2524220

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Not a bad start to the year. KK only 7 points from play

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 304 - 04/02/2024 15:44:13    2524225

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Starting to think it mightnt be that far off championship team. Lot of lads obviously havent been good enough last few years too. Add in Rory for sure and if Liam Ryan can stay fit. Mac isn't a guaranteed started, has to win his place. Liam Og if he can stay fit too. The way Rossiter playing is the best way to get results for and I'm not sure Matt and Dee would have the legs for it. Great impact subs though. Its a tough game to play, especially on the engine and pace and not sure Mac suits that, good option to have for a change in approach during a game, Liam Ryan would be able to play it quiet well, Liam Og too if he's back to full fitness, Dee has slowed down last few years but great lad to have to bring on, Matt great servant but pace was never his strong point even in his peak and can't see him starting 6 ahead of Reck or full back. But another great lad and won't let you down. Have to do something different, last 4 years have been poor and usually last 10 mins have shown a lack of legs and options in the tighter games, think Clare 22 etc. Need energy and legs for the game wexford are trying to play."
It's hard to know really but I'd expect Donohue and devitt to be there. Probably Shane Reck and 100 percent on jippo.

Further up the field I'd say Rory and oisin Foley.

Dee, Matt, Mac, conal flood will certainly strengthen the panel.

I'd say we're planning without mogie.

I'm just delighted to see how Foley, Ryan, Molloy and Byrne Dunbar are doing in particular.

I was worried looking at the two benches but our subs did really well.

If we've this sort of experience to come on in a close game with ten minutes to go we should be much stronger than in previous years.

Like I said, I'd have taken a draw this morning and I think we'll have taken much more from this than Kilkenny. It's nice to have a point on the board Which could be important.

Onto Offaly now, who will have targeted us and did well against Waterford today.

It's extremely important that we produce a performance. If we can do that we should win.

That would leave us having to beat one of Clare, Waterford and Cork to be safe next year.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 04/02/2024 15:57:05    2524233

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's hard to know really but I'd expect Donohue and devitt to be there. Probably Shane Reck and 100 percent on jippo.

Further up the field I'd say Rory and oisin Foley.

Dee, Matt, Mac, conal flood will certainly strengthen the panel.

I'd say we're planning without mogie.

I'm just delighted to see how Foley, Ryan, Molloy and Byrne Dunbar are doing in particular.

I was worried looking at the two benches but our subs did really well.

If we've this sort of experience to come on in a close game with ten minutes to go we should be much stronger than in previous years.

Like I said, I'd have taken a draw this morning and I think we'll have taken much more from this than Kilkenny. It's nice to have a point on the board Which could be important.

Onto Offaly now, who will have targeted us and did well against Waterford today.

It's extremely important that we produce a performance. If we can do that we should win.

That would leave us having to beat one of Clare, Waterford and Cork to be safe next year."
Good game. The newer lads stood up well! Atmosphere the last 15 minutes was brilliant at the back of the new stand! Conor Foley was very good again! Niall Murphy and Eoin Ryan were solid too, although Eoin will have learnt that when you are playing on Mossey you can't let him get it into his hand that close to goal. Shouldve pushed him over when he was going to pick up the ball and concede the free out on the sideline. Cian Molloy and Conor Hearne were very good, Charlie was OK but needs to get the head up more, Corey Byrne Dunbar was good too. Jacko had another of those games where he never got going. Kevin Foley was very good, Tucker was excellent when he came on, James Byrne had another good outing. Casey took his scores well, Cian Byrne did well when he came on, while Richie was his usual busy self. Damien didn't need to foil his man for the 2nd penalty but was solid enough otherwise, Chin was solid also. Eoin Cody looked like he was tiring after playing Thursday but Shane Reck kept him very quiet all the same when he came on. Dunbar didn't get on much ball as we were playing it long after he came on.
Feeling more positive about the year ahead, and some of the established lads might find that they will be coming back onto the bench if the lads playing today keep it going!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 04/02/2024 16:58:55    2524259

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Great to seee the younger players given their ecunce in the league. Patsy Molloy really impressing and Conor Foley was brilliant a real addition to us going forward. Subs made huge impact Cian Byrne and Tucker should be good competition now for the Offaly game which will drive this group on especially with a few experienced players to come back.

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 343 - 04/02/2024 17:42:23    2524276

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Getting hard to watch now. We've been absolutely shafted in the last five minutes.

This game will stand to us though.

Brilliant for a second string Wexford team to be giving Kilkenny this much to think about"
Why should we call it a second string team I for one was very happy with the way the lads performed today and wouldn't be handing back Jersey too quickly to lads just because they were on the team before.When Cody was over Kk that was his strength no one was guaranteed a Jersey and were moved on when some new player came on board.Think Keith is trying the same mentality in our panel and fair dues to him.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 435 - 04/02/2024 18:27:39    2524295

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Why should we call it a second string team I for one was very happy with the way the lads performed today and wouldn't be handing back Jersey too quickly to lads just because they were on the team before.When Cody was over Kk that was his strength no one was guaranteed a Jersey and were moved on when some new player came on board.Think Keith is trying the same mentality in our panel and fair dues to him."
I agree. There are at least three or four of those young lads who will be certain championship starters in April if they are fit. The competition for places in the backs is tough!

Today was very decent away to Kilkenny with some really dubious decisions going against us in the last 15 minutes.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 200 - 04/02/2024 19:15:36    2524310

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Why should we call it a second string team I for one was very happy with the way the lads performed today and wouldn't be handing back Jersey too quickly to lads just because they were on the team before.When Cody was over Kk that was his strength no one was guaranteed a Jersey and were moved on when some new player came on board.Think Keith is trying the same mentality in our panel and fair dues to him."
I see what you mean. That remark was somewhat tongue in cheek. I was referring to the narrative Kilkenny and Galway pundits were pushing during the Walsh cup.

You can be sure the narrative on league Sunday tonight will be about tj Reid coming back and Wexford needing a last minute goal when in reality Kilkenny were blessed.

It's still February though. I am hoping we can put a few performances together to prepare for the championship.

Tom Dempsey was saying we should prioritize the league to stay up and develop players. He also reckoned we could still finish third in Leinster on top of it

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 04/02/2024 19:25:36    2524316

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Replying To Viking66:  "Good game. The newer lads stood up well! Atmosphere the last 15 minutes was brilliant at the back of the new stand! Conor Foley was very good again! Niall Murphy and Eoin Ryan were solid too, although Eoin will have learnt that when you are playing on Mossey you can't let him get it into his hand that close to goal. Shouldve pushed him over when he was going to pick up the ball and concede the free out on the sideline. Cian Molloy and Conor Hearne were very good, Charlie was OK but needs to get the head up more, Corey Byrne Dunbar was good too. Jacko had another of those games where he never got going. Kevin Foley was very good, Tucker was excellent when he came on, James Byrne had another good outing. Casey took his scores well, Cian Byrne did well when he came on, while Richie was his usual busy self. Damien didn't need to foil his man for the 2nd penalty but was solid enough otherwise, Chin was solid also. Eoin Cody looked like he was tiring after playing Thursday but Shane Reck kept him very quiet all the same when he came on. Dunbar didn't get on much ball as we were playing it long after he came on.
Feeling more positive about the year ahead, and some of the established lads might find that they will be coming back onto the bench if the lads playing today keep it going!"
Definitely the glass half full analysis there! Agreed on Conor Foley and the full back line generally was strong. Lost our shape badly for the second penalty and the first one was very naive defending. Anyway best to learn from that after the first league game. Defensive shape was better today than any game I saw last year. Reck solid at 6 though I was disappointed in McGuckian. Molloy much better when he dropped back to 7, he was lost at midfield.

As a game, it was typical early round league fare. Touch and striking miles off for both teams. Intensity lifted after the break for sure but not sure either side deserved to win either. When we played it short we looked at a lot better, lumping it long to likes of Jacko and Chin got minimal return. Kevin Foley played best I've seen him in a long time. Casey worked hard for sure but our forward line was very mixed. Kinsella and Byrne did well but Lawlor, Jacko and Chin were poor, Chin missed four chances alone in the first half including two terrible frees. Not sure about Fanning again either with his distribution and he got a fortunate enough free in second half after a poor touch.

What's the story with Rory O'Connor? Lots of the injured lads were there but didn't spot him.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 534 - 04/02/2024 19:48:02    2524332

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Why should we call it a second string team I for one was very happy with the way the lads performed today and wouldn't be handing back Jersey too quickly to lads just because they were on the team before.When Cody was over Kk that was his strength no one was guaranteed a Jersey and were moved on when some new player came on board.Think Keith is trying the same mentality in our panel and fair dues to him."
Thing is Keith has no choice but play the new lads or fairly new lads as all the so called regulars were injured. However that's not detrimental to the team. The young guns shone brightly today and gave a sterling performance. Guys such as Byrne Dunbar, James Byrne, Eoin Ryan, Molloy,Murphy will no doubt see plenty of action during the season. They will only get better as they get more gametime. A draw was a fair result today. We might have won but we could have lost aswel.
Offaly won't be easy but we should be capable of beating them in our own patch.
It's vital that we build on today's result and give the munster teams a good rattle.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 657 - 04/02/2024 19:49:16    2524334

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I see what you mean. That remark was somewhat tongue in cheek. I was referring to the narrative Kilkenny and Galway pundits were pushing during the Walsh cup.

You can be sure the narrative on league Sunday tonight will be about tj Reid coming back and Wexford needing a last minute goal when in reality Kilkenny were blessed.

It's still February though. I am hoping we can put a few performances together to prepare for the championship.

Tom Dempsey was saying we should prioritize the league to stay up and develop players. He also reckoned we could still finish third in Leinster on top of it"
I'd still be hoping we could make a Leinster final

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 04/02/2024 19:59:22    2524339

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'd still be hoping we could make a Leinster final"
Oh I agree. Same as the last few years there's nothing between the top four on a given day.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 04/02/2024 20:10:54    2524344

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I see what you mean. That remark was somewhat tongue in cheek. I was referring to the narrative Kilkenny and Galway pundits were pushing during the Walsh cup.

You can be sure the narrative on league Sunday tonight will be about tj Reid coming back and Wexford needing a last minute goal when in reality Kilkenny were blessed.

It's still February though. I am hoping we can put a few performances together to prepare for the championship.

Tom Dempsey was saying we should prioritize the league to stay up and develop players. He also reckoned we could still finish third in Leinster on top of it"
It's already happening, the Irish times article about the match talks about how KK won't be too concerned because they have most of the OLG players to come back. Zero mention of all the players we have to come back in.

What I liked most about today is it wasn't necessarily the old guard who stood up and showed leadership. A lot of the younger newer guys showed serious composure and didn't panic.

For me Conor Foley, Corey Byrne Dunbar, Cian Molloy, and Kinsella when he came were the pick of the lot. Cian's second point, I think, near the stand was an absolute peach. I think probably Fanning and Jacko drop to the bench for the next game. I thought Fanning's puck outs were poor today and he never really got near either penalty even though Drennan went to the same corner twice. Jacko hardly touched a ball.

Disagree with the previous poster about O'Hanlon, you should mix pace with a bear like him. We were noticeably a lot smaller than KK today with a few exceptions. We hardly ever seemed to win a dirty ball from a ruck.

Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 279 - 04/02/2024 20:11:21    2524346

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I was happy enough today.The full back line were good especially man of the match foley, he was outstanding. Molloy in my opinion was very good too. Reck is a great hurler but for me he too lose for centre back(possible liam Ryan there come championship)if foley continues in this form. Reck to wing back...Charlie mixed bag today. Hearne(I taught was unlucky to be taken off) and Dunbar hurled well. I dont think Chin and Lawlor had there best game, Jack O Connor was very poor. Casey, Byrne, tucker, James all done well and contributed to the match overall.
Well done to all the players and management for their part in a very enjoyable match.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1189 - 04/02/2024 20:23:52    2524350

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Well lads travelled to game today just wondering whats everyone's take now on the goal keeper and fullback line who gets the nod in goal?? Rossiter has given all 3 a look now in fanning Lawlor and duggan.. on the fullback line Foley has cemented a place somewhere in the back line with his performances last 3 to four games.. Liam Ryan with probably come back full back but where do we play foley has Niall Murphy moved ahead of Donohoe Shane reck or devitt??o Hanlon still to come back move headaches for rossiter.. as regards the forwards anyone know what the story is with Oisín foley??

gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 04/02/2024 20:56:53    2524360

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Fanning's distribution was poor at times although I don't like how we set up off puck-outs, we don't really have enough options to work it short from the puck-out like Limerick do. Foley was probably our MOTM, think the corner-backs were OK, would have said Niall was the better of the two as Eoin got done for their first penalty. Still wouldn't worry though as both need experience at this level and Eoin will be a much better player for us in a year or two if he continues his current trajectory.

Charlie didn't really do much, Cian Molloy probably the best of the half-back line. Thought it was harsh to bring CBD off, he was lively enough and was involved in a few good pieces of play. Thought Conor Hearne fumbled the ball a lot and made too many mistakes in possession, wasn't surprised that he was replaced first. Jacko was quiet as were Lee and Richie. Richie did go through a lot of work but don't really feel he made much headway in attack. Still worth persiting with and will come on for the experience but think he would be better out the field. James Byrne was OK, Seamus Casey was quiet enough but still somehow managed to come away with 1-02 from play, made the most of his opportunities. Kevin Foley was bright, looks like we're trying to play him as a roving corner-forward, not sure that's his best position either.

We really struggled to win primary possession/dirty ball in our half-forward line and I think we still need to go shorter more often, we're just hitting the ball forward in order for it to come straight back to us too often.

I think Cian Byrne will be better in a year or two when he gets more S&C work done, he's getting pushed around a little bit too much at the moment but he still got 1-01 from play in his time on the pitch. Tucker Kinsella got 0-02 from play as well, early signs but it looks like we might have more genuine scoring power in the forwards than we've had in the last few years.

This might sound a bit critical but I suppose it's because I have high expectations for this group, our last two U20s sides were good sides and a lot of them should have a bright future at this level. I don't think it's that unrealistic to think that Leinster is winnable, we seem to be able to live with Kilkenny, no reason why we can't do the same with either Galway or Kilkenny.

Finally, Kilkenny were given a 65 in the first half that I thought was a clear and obvious wide and Adrian Mullen then got away with an awfully dirty slap on Kevin Foley in the second half that ended up with a Kilkenny free right in front of goal.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1013 - 04/02/2024 21:17:40    2524370

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Replying To Fulgrim:  "It's already happening, the Irish times article about the match talks about how KK won't be too concerned because they have most of the OLG players to come back. Zero mention of all the players we have to come back in.

What I liked most about today is it wasn't necessarily the old guard who stood up and showed leadership. A lot of the younger newer guys showed serious composure and didn't panic.

For me Conor Foley, Corey Byrne Dunbar, Cian Molloy, and Kinsella when he came were the pick of the lot. Cian's second point, I think, near the stand was an absolute peach. I think probably Fanning and Jacko drop to the bench for the next game. I thought Fanning's puck outs were poor today and he never really got near either penalty even though Drennan went to the same corner twice. Jacko hardly touched a ball.

Disagree with the previous poster about O'Hanlon, you should mix pace with a bear like him. We were noticeably a lot smaller than KK today with a few exceptions. We hardly ever seemed to win a dirty ball from a ruck."
I went and read that just now. Two things.

It's the most passive aggressive and least objective match report I've ever read.

I'm also convinced that report was not at the game.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 04/02/2024 21:19:27    2524371

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Replying To gannett83:  "Well lads travelled to game today just wondering whats everyone's take now on the goal keeper and fullback line who gets the nod in goal?? Rossiter has given all 3 a look now in fanning Lawlor and duggan.. on the fullback line Foley has cemented a place somewhere in the back line with his performances last 3 to four games.. Liam Ryan with probably come back full back but where do we play foley has Niall Murphy moved ahead of Donohoe Shane reck or devitt??o Hanlon still to come back move headaches for rossiter.. as regards the forwards anyone know what the story is with Oisín foley??"
Fanning in the goal is not what's best.

For me, Aaron Duggan has performed best, but lawlor hasn't done much wrong either.

I think Shane Reck is the best man marker we have so he has to play.

Jippo is one of the best in the country, but doesn't necessarily have to be full back. Personally I think his game is better suited to the corner.

Foley has been amazing. If he keeps this up he has to start.

I'm not generally a big fan of Donohue, but he was probably our best defender last year.

Damien Reck is the best hurler we have bar none.

I think we have probably four players battling for 1 place.

Midfield could be Foley, Dee, Hearne, flood, or one of the lads that doesn't make the half back line.

Oisin Foley trained Wednesday night so he can't be too far off.

Up front assuming we have the full complement it's chinner, Rory, Foley (too good of a ball winner to not play).

The other 3 places will be very hard to pick which is a wonderful complaint.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 04/02/2024 21:30:58    2524375

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Fanning's distribution was poor at times although I don't like how we set up off puck-outs, we don't really have enough options to work it short from the puck-out like Limerick do. Foley was probably our MOTM, think the corner-backs were OK, would have said Niall was the better of the two as Eoin got done for their first penalty. Still wouldn't worry though as both need experience at this level and Eoin will be a much better player for us in a year or two if he continues his current trajectory.

Charlie didn't really do much, Cian Molloy probably the best of the half-back line. Thought it was harsh to bring CBD off, he was lively enough and was involved in a few good pieces of play. Thought Conor Hearne fumbled the ball a lot and made too many mistakes in possession, wasn't surprised that he was replaced first. Jacko was quiet as were Lee and Richie. Richie did go through a lot of work but don't really feel he made much headway in attack. Still worth persiting with and will come on for the experience but think he would be better out the field. James Byrne was OK, Seamus Casey was quiet enough but still somehow managed to come away with 1-02 from play, made the most of his opportunities. Kevin Foley was bright, looks like we're trying to play him as a roving corner-forward, not sure that's his best position either.

We really struggled to win primary possession/dirty ball in our half-forward line and I think we still need to go shorter more often, we're just hitting the ball forward in order for it to come straight back to us too often.

I think Cian Byrne will be better in a year or two when he gets more S&C work done, he's getting pushed around a little bit too much at the moment but he still got 1-01 from play in his time on the pitch. Tucker Kinsella got 0-02 from play as well, early signs but it looks like we might have more genuine scoring power in the forwards than we've had in the last few years.

This might sound a bit critical but I suppose it's because I have high expectations for this group, our last two U20s sides were good sides and a lot of them should have a bright future at this level. I don't think it's that unrealistic to think that Leinster is winnable, we seem to be able to live with Kilkenny, no reason why we can't do the same with either Galway or Kilkenny.

Finally, Kilkenny were given a 65 in the first half that I thought was a clear and obvious wide and Adrian Mullen then got away with an awfully dirty slap on Kevin Foley in the second half that ended up with a Kilkenny free right in front of goal."
The 65 was so odd. We were right in front of the KK player who hit it. No one even near him to get a touch off it. So unless Fanning fucked up it definitely wasn't a 65.

Thought the ref generally let a lot go and let the game flow. Made the last free very strange given how he had been reffing the game. Such a soft free to give KK the win at the end, still can't believe Drennan missed it.

Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 279 - 04/02/2024 21:31:18    2524376

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