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Replying To Ryanteam:  "
Replying To clooney:  "[quote=LohansRedHelmet:  "If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref:

"When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team.

He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued."

He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple."
He was poor on the day no doubt but we did shoot ourselves in foot Did Brian think KK were vastly superior to us that he has to play a sweeper a system that is I believe now dead in water. Last year we came off Munster final looking drained never performed and we always do against KK it was a once off 4 out of KK 6 forwards were replaced yesterday so how did he get it so wrong?

Some of mistakes decision making especially were awful when we pushed up so much better still our efficiency was off missed a 50 m free dropped a couple short we are also missing a bit of luck Midfielder got Hurley in and then the Peter Duggan save that was unreal and the Quilligan going short when Duggan was gobbling up puckout.

A huge opportunity missed as well as the Munster Final no silver wear again"
You mean no silverware? Anyway, Clare had a great season, gave their supporters a lot of joy, and you had a few good days out. This mantra of "my county is better than yours", is pervasive on this site. It's an amateur game, no more and no less! Whole country is about 300 miles long, and one hundred miles wide, and people think natives of an adjoining county are different people to them! Parochialism at it's worst!"]Your fellow Cork man, the late, great Niall Toibin put it better: "This Ireland of ours is about 300 miles long and about 100 miles thick!"

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2352 - 13/07/2023 03:18:13    2494053

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Jesus what is wrong with some of the Wexford lads here, ye are gone so bitter (Viking certainly not aiming that at you)"
Stop blaming ref's and diving and i'd imagine there would be no bitterness.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 13/07/2023 10:04:10    2494064

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "
Replying To Ryanteam:  "[quote=clooney:  "[quote=LohansRedHelmet:  "If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref:

"When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team.

He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued."

He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple."
He was poor on the day no doubt but we did shoot ourselves in foot Did Brian think KK were vastly superior to us that he has to play a sweeper a system that is I believe now dead in water. Last year we came off Munster final looking drained never performed and we always do against KK it was a once off 4 out of KK 6 forwards were replaced yesterday so how did he get it so wrong?

Some of mistakes decision making especially were awful when we pushed up so much better still our efficiency was off missed a 50 m free dropped a couple short we are also missing a bit of luck Midfielder got Hurley in and then the Peter Duggan save that was unreal and the Quilligan going short when Duggan was gobbling up puckout.

A huge opportunity missed as well as the Munster Final no silver wear again"
You mean no silverware? Anyway, Clare had a great season, gave their supporters a lot of joy, and you had a few good days out. This mantra of "my county is better than yours", is pervasive on this site. It's an amateur game, no more and no less! Whole country is about 300 miles long, and one hundred miles wide, and people think natives of an adjoining county are different people to them! Parochialism at it's worst!"]Your fellow Cork man, the late, great Niall Toibin put it better: "This Ireland of ours is about 300 miles long and about 100 miles thick!""]The world is smaller now, but personally I do think there are fundemental cultural differences here. Largely based on outside influences.

Kilkenny very much a loyalist city.

Shadow of Cromwell hangs over wexford.

Corks whole identity is how much more authentic they are than Dublin.

Dublin just mad to be the same as every other European city instead of celebrating it's own identity.

The North is moulded by an entirely different history and struggle.

With respect, a person from the United States couldn't possibly understand this.

The wexford Kilkenny rivalry starts in 1798.

Harriers and rapps is rooted in home rule Bill and civil war.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3849 - 13/07/2023 14:32:24    2494139

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Replying To Viking66:  "Lol! I agree with your point though. Although before the Westmeath championship game it's a good few years since we lost to one of your tier 3 teams in League or Championship. And I don't remember the last time Waterford or Dublin lost to one."
Dublin lost an All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-Final to Leix, only a few years ago.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 871 - 13/07/2023 14:49:50    2494146

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So the Kilkenny man thinks they won't win the All Ireland Final but they will draw instead!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2672 - 13/07/2023 16:08:13    2494169

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Replying To CARPS:  "Dublin lost an All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-Final to Leix, only a few years ago."
5 seasons ago. How far back do you want to go? Kilkennys minor team got knocked out by the same lads last year. Galways u20s got knocked out by Offaly this year. Or if its Senior only you are talking about Clare lost to Antrim more recently than Dublin losing to Laois. Only 2 years ago. I think its too hard to pigeon hole counties into tiers.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16685 - 13/07/2023 16:35:29    2494175

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "
Replying To foreveryoung:  "[quote=Ryanteam:  "[quote=clooney:  "[quote=LohansRedHelmet:  "If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref:

"When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team.

He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued."

He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple."
He was poor on the day no doubt but we did shoot ourselves in foot Did Brian think KK were vastly superior to us that he has to play a sweeper a system that is I believe now dead in water. Last year we came off Munster final looking drained never performed and we always do against KK it was a once off 4 out of KK 6 forwards were replaced yesterday so how did he get it so wrong?

Some of mistakes decision making especially were awful when we pushed up so much better still our efficiency was off missed a 50 m free dropped a couple short we are also missing a bit of luck Midfielder got Hurley in and then the Peter Duggan save that was unreal and the Quilligan going short when Duggan was gobbling up puckout.

A huge opportunity missed as well as the Munster Final no silver wear again"
You mean no silverware? Anyway, Clare had a great season, gave their supporters a lot of joy, and you had a few good days out. This mantra of "my county is better than yours", is pervasive on this site. It's an amateur game, no more and no less! Whole country is about 300 miles long, and one hundred miles wide, and people think natives of an adjoining county are different people to them! Parochialism at it's worst!"]Your fellow Cork man, the late, great Niall Toibin put it better: "This Ireland of ours is about 300 miles long and about 100 miles thick!""]The world is smaller now, but personally I do think there are fundemental cultural differences here. Largely based on outside influences.

Kilkenny very much a loyalist city.

Shadow of Cromwell hangs over wexford.

Corks whole identity is how much more authentic they are than Dublin.

Dublin just mad to be the same as every other European city instead of celebrating it's own identity.

The North is moulded by an entirely different history and struggle.

With respect, a person from the United States couldn't possibly understand this.

The wexford Kilkenny rivalry starts in 1798.

Harriers and rapps is rooted in home rule Bill and civil war."]The north is moulded by the same history and struggle as the rest of Ireland. It's not some separate place to the rest of Ireland

LilywhiteGael (Kildare) - Posts: 132 - 13/07/2023 17:24:29    2494187

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Replying To LilywhiteGael:  "
Replying To Doylerwex:  "[quote=foreveryoung:  "[quote=Ryanteam:  "[quote=clooney:  "[quote=LohansRedHelmet:  "If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref:

"When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team.

He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued."

He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple."
He was poor on the day no doubt but we did shoot ourselves in foot Did Brian think KK were vastly superior to us that he has to play a sweeper a system that is I believe now dead in water. Last year we came off Munster final looking drained never performed and we always do against KK it was a once off 4 out of KK 6 forwards were replaced yesterday so how did he get it so wrong?

Some of mistakes decision making especially were awful when we pushed up so much better still our efficiency was off missed a 50 m free dropped a couple short we are also missing a bit of luck Midfielder got Hurley in and then the Peter Duggan save that was unreal and the Quilligan going short when Duggan was gobbling up puckout.

A huge opportunity missed as well as the Munster Final no silver wear again"
You mean no silverware? Anyway, Clare had a great season, gave their supporters a lot of joy, and you had a few good days out. This mantra of "my county is better than yours", is pervasive on this site. It's an amateur game, no more and no less! Whole country is about 300 miles long, and one hundred miles wide, and people think natives of an adjoining county are different people to them! Parochialism at it's worst!"]Your fellow Cork man, the late, great Niall Toibin put it better: "This Ireland of ours is about 300 miles long and about 100 miles thick!""]The world is smaller now, but personally I do think there are fundemental cultural differences here. Largely based on outside influences.

Kilkenny very much a loyalist city.

Shadow of Cromwell hangs over wexford.

Corks whole identity is how much more authentic they are than Dublin.

Dublin just mad to be the same as every other European city instead of celebrating it's own identity.

The North is moulded by an entirely different history and struggle.

With respect, a person from the United States couldn't possibly understand this.

The wexford Kilkenny rivalry starts in 1798.

Harriers and rapps is rooted in home rule Bill and civil war."]The north is moulded by the same history and struggle as the rest of Ireland. It's not some separate place to the rest of Ireland"]Is it the same?

Plantations were much more successful. They suffered more as a result.

They were also abandoned.

It's not a separate place, but it has it's own unique culture.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3849 - 13/07/2023 20:20:44    2494222

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Waterford are holding on to Davy for another year....seriously, but that can't really be true.... is it??

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 13/07/2023 20:25:58    2494223

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Replying To LilywhiteGael:  "
Replying To Doylerwex:  "[quote=foreveryoung:  "[quote=Ryanteam:  "[quote=clooney:  "[quote=LohansRedHelmet:  "If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref:

"When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team.

He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued."

He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple."
He was poor on the day no doubt but we did shoot ourselves in foot Did Brian think KK were vastly superior to us that he has to play a sweeper a system that is I believe now dead in water. Last year we came off Munster final looking drained never performed and we always do against KK it was a once off 4 out of KK 6 forwards were replaced yesterday so how did he get it so wrong?

Some of mistakes decision making especially were awful when we pushed up so much better still our efficiency was off missed a 50 m free dropped a couple short we are also missing a bit of luck Midfielder got Hurley in and then the Peter Duggan save that was unreal and the Quilligan going short when Duggan was gobbling up puckout.

A huge opportunity missed as well as the Munster Final no silver wear again"
You mean no silverware? Anyway, Clare had a great season, gave their supporters a lot of joy, and you had a few good days out. This mantra of "my county is better than yours", is pervasive on this site. It's an amateur game, no more and no less! Whole country is about 300 miles long, and one hundred miles wide, and people think natives of an adjoining county are different people to them! Parochialism at it's worst!"]Your fellow Cork man, the late, great Niall Toibin put it better: "This Ireland of ours is about 300 miles long and about 100 miles thick!""]The world is smaller now, but personally I do think there are fundemental cultural differences here. Largely based on outside influences.

Kilkenny very much a loyalist city.

Shadow of Cromwell hangs over wexford.

Corks whole identity is how much more authentic they are than Dublin.

Dublin just mad to be the same as every other European city instead of celebrating it's own identity.

The North is moulded by an entirely different history and struggle.

With respect, a person from the United States couldn't possibly understand this.

The wexford Kilkenny rivalry starts in 1798.

Harriers and rapps is rooted in home rule Bill and civil war."]The north is moulded by the same history and struggle as the rest of Ireland. It's not some separate place to the rest of Ireland"]Absolutely. It's all one country that way.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16685 - 13/07/2023 21:30:02    2494231

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I see both Kilkenny and Limerick teams both travelling home after finals with hotel prices and availabily being a factor. No team banquets in Dublin. Is this going to start a trend. While it's not the only factor th point should be made hotel prices now especially Dublin are borderline criminal. Something should be done. Some hotels now quoting 1000 e for one night on busy nights. It is wrong. Ireland has a short memory!

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4029 - 14/07/2023 10:50:01    2494287

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Replying To TomWex:  "Waterford are holding on to Davy for another year....seriously, but that can't really be true.... is it??"
It is. They will be better next year. Their lads will be leaner and faster they have a good S and C man there.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16685 - 14/07/2023 11:04:03    2494293

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "
Replying To LilywhiteGael:  "[quote=Doylerwex:  "[quote=foreveryoung:  "[quote=Ryanteam:  "[quote=clooney:  "[quote=LohansRedHelmet:  "If you read the rule you will see the error by the ref:

"When the referee has adjudicated that a foul has been committed (either Technical or Aggressive) he may allow play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team.

He may allow this advantage to run for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if is clear that no advantage has accrued."

He blew within the 5 second which by the law means he was "clear" that no advantage had accrued. He was wrong! Simple."
He was poor on the day no doubt but we did shoot ourselves in foot Did Brian think KK were vastly superior to us that he has to play a sweeper a system that is I believe now dead in water. Last year we came off Munster final looking drained never performed and we always do against KK it was a once off 4 out of KK 6 forwards were replaced yesterday so how did he get it so wrong?

Some of mistakes decision making especially were awful when we pushed up so much better still our efficiency was off missed a 50 m free dropped a couple short we are also missing a bit of luck Midfielder got Hurley in and then the Peter Duggan save that was unreal and the Quilligan going short when Duggan was gobbling up puckout.

A huge opportunity missed as well as the Munster Final no silver wear again"
You mean no silverware? Anyway, Clare had a great season, gave their supporters a lot of joy, and you had a few good days out. This mantra of "my county is better than yours", is pervasive on this site. It's an amateur game, no more and no less! Whole country is about 300 miles long, and one hundred miles wide, and people think natives of an adjoining county are different people to them! Parochialism at it's worst!"]Your fellow Cork man, the late, great Niall Toibin put it better: "This Ireland of ours is about 300 miles long and about 100 miles thick!""]The world is smaller now, but personally I do think there are fundemental cultural differences here. Largely based on outside influences.

Kilkenny very much a loyalist city.

Shadow of Cromwell hangs over wexford.

Corks whole identity is how much more authentic they are than Dublin.

Dublin just mad to be the same as every other European city instead of celebrating it's own identity.

The North is moulded by an entirely different history and struggle.

With respect, a person from the United States couldn't possibly understand this.

The wexford Kilkenny rivalry starts in 1798.

Harriers and rapps is rooted in home rule Bill and civil war."]The north is moulded by the same history and struggle as the rest of Ireland. It's not some separate place to the rest of Ireland"]Is it the same?

Plantations were much more successful. They suffered more as a result.

They were also abandoned.

It's not a separate place, but it has it's own unique culture."]They suffered more at that time because they were the last Gaelic/Celtic/Irish ruled area of the country. All the subsequent major uprisings, from 1798 onwards, were led largely by the middle classes, not Irish kings or chieftains.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16685 - 14/07/2023 11:07:50    2494295

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Replying To Viking66:  "It is. They will be better next year. Their lads will be leaner and faster they have a good S and C man there."
Completely agree. Different proposition next year. I'd imagine them, Cork and Limerick will come out of Munster.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 14/07/2023 11:44:13    2494304

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I see both Kilkenny and Limerick teams both travelling home after finals with hotel prices and availabily being a factor. No team banquets in Dublin. Is this going to start a trend. While it's not the only factor th point should be made hotel prices now especially Dublin are borderline criminal. Something should be done. Some hotels now quoting 1000 e for one night on busy nights. It is wrong. Ireland has a short memory!"
Kilkenny always stay in the Citywest Hotel for big games in Dublin. They probably have it provisionally booked every year.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 14/07/2023 12:36:07    2494323

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny always stay in the Citywest Hotel for big games in Dublin. They probably have it provisionally booked every year."
Both teams going home after the Final.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2558 - 14/07/2023 13:19:08    2494336

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny always stay in the Citywest Hotel for big games in Dublin. They probably have it provisionally booked every year."
Think it's unavailable as it's housing Ukrainian refugees.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 14/07/2023 13:27:44    2494338

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Think a problem with these banquets is a lot of hotels being used to house refugees..also both counties will make it back to home county in at most 2 hours..city west is definitely out..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2576 - 14/07/2023 14:06:21    2494352

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Think it's unavailable as it's housing Ukrainian refugees."
Right, I wasn't aware of this .

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 14/07/2023 14:47:23    2494365

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Completely agree. Different proposition next year. I'd imagine them, Cork and Limerick will come out of Munster."
Looooooooooooooooooooool

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 14/07/2023 15:09:07    2494373

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