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Replying To Past hurler:  "Jealousy, especially among his own former teammates.

Davy achieved as a manger what Daly, Lohan all failed at, winning Liam McCarthy as both a player and a manager of Clare.

Lohan has won absolutely nothing with Clare as a manager and he is heading into year 5 this coming January, yet he is lauded as this great manager even after they were given a lesson in how to play hurling v Kilkenny in 2022.

The mind boggles."
My mind boggles how you think one Clare persons opinion represents the counties thoughts!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1479 - 16/07/2023 14:41:45    2494789

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Btw. This arose as a result of me saying that Waterford would go no where under Davy. That is not an exclusive view point to Clare people.

You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Davy will bring Waterford places. All I said was that beating Tipp (who as it transpired were a busted flush) will prove to be a negative as Waterford actually regressed further under Davy this year. That is not a controversial opinion but an opinion shared by the majority.

All is rosey with Davy when things are going well. When they are not, the sideshow begins which all your Wexford Clare haters should know well as every time we beat ye his interviews after were incredibly disrespectful towards Wexford (Clare this, Clare that). I can't understand why ye now would be trying to have a go at me given not one of ye wanted him to stay with Wexford.

Davy never acknowledges his own failings and always seeks to deflect. It's never his fault. The victim mentality get tiresome."
As a proud lifelong Wexford supporter I'd hate to see Davy even spend a weekend in Curracloe again. Davy arrived on the scene and took a group of young Wexford players - that JJ Doyle had developed and had success with, and milked them for all their worth with zero squad development. This group of players had a good degree of success (by Wexford standards) DISPITE Davy.. we would've reached and AI in 2019 if Davy had kept his mouth shut and let the players continue to do what they were doing well instead of pulling them back into the 'Davy defensive tactics' for the last 10 minutes. He is not good for hurling.. yes the media love his antics. I couldn't believe it with when I heard him giving out about Quaids gamesmanship last week.. of all people to talk about poor gamesmanship Davy can't open his mouth to be fair.
Clare are so lucky that a few great Clare hurling people eventually stood up against the Fitzgeralds and took control things there again. I can't get my head around Waterford who have been burned twice by him at this stage have decided to hold on to him. That's just my opinion.

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 16/07/2023 15:14:11    2494793

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Replying To TomWex:  "As a proud lifelong Wexford supporter I'd hate to see Davy even spend a weekend in Curracloe again. Davy arrived on the scene and took a group of young Wexford players - that JJ Doyle had developed and had success with, and milked them for all their worth with zero squad development. This group of players had a good degree of success (by Wexford standards) DISPITE Davy.. we would've reached and AI in 2019 if Davy had kept his mouth shut and let the players continue to do what they were doing well instead of pulling them back into the 'Davy defensive tactics' for the last 10 minutes. He is not good for hurling.. yes the media love his antics. I couldn't believe it with when I heard him giving out about Quaids gamesmanship last week.. of all people to talk about poor gamesmanship Davy can't open his mouth to be fair.
Clare are so lucky that a few great Clare hurling people eventually stood up against the Fitzgeralds and took control things there again. I can't get my head around Waterford who have been burned twice by him at this stage have decided to hold on to him. That's just my opinion."
I'd walk on glass for Davy.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 16/07/2023 15:49:11    2494800

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Replying To TomWex:  "As a proud lifelong Wexford supporter I'd hate to see Davy even spend a weekend in Curracloe again. Davy arrived on the scene and took a group of young Wexford players - that JJ Doyle had developed and had success with, and milked them for all their worth with zero squad development. This group of players had a good degree of success (by Wexford standards) DISPITE Davy.. we would've reached and AI in 2019 if Davy had kept his mouth shut and let the players continue to do what they were doing well instead of pulling them back into the 'Davy defensive tactics' for the last 10 minutes. He is not good for hurling.. yes the media love his antics. I couldn't believe it with when I heard him giving out about Quaids gamesmanship last week.. of all people to talk about poor gamesmanship Davy can't open his mouth to be fair.
Clare are so lucky that a few great Clare hurling people eventually stood up against the Fitzgeralds and took control things there again. I can't get my head around Waterford who have been burned twice by him at this stage have decided to hold on to him. That's just my opinion."
Fitz always gets a kick out of teams in year 1. The fact that Waterford were worse this year is in my opinion telling. They played like a team at the end of Fitz life cycle not the beginning. Hard to see how this gets turned around. It seemed to me like the players didn't want to play for him.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 16/07/2023 16:00:37    2494805

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Replying To countyman2022:  "I'd walk on glass for Davy."
Jesus tis stranger your are getting

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 16/07/2023 16:02:28    2494807

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Jesus tis stranger your are getting"
He's more than welcome down here. Ye just turn on yer own. Always have someone else to blame. Never yer fault.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 16/07/2023 16:09:38    2494809

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Btw. This arose as a result of me saying that Waterford would go no where under Davy. That is not an exclusive view point to Clare people.

You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Davy will bring Waterford places. All I said was that beating Tipp (who as it transpired were a busted flush) will prove to be a negative as Waterford actually regressed further under Davy this year. That is not a controversial opinion but an opinion shared by the majority.

All is rosey with Davy when things are going well. When they are not, the sideshow begins which all your Wexford Clare haters should know well as every time we beat ye his interviews after were incredibly disrespectful towards Wexford (Clare this, Clare that). I can't understand why ye now would be trying to have a go at me given not one of ye wanted him to stay with Wexford.

Davy never acknowledges his own failings and always seeks to deflect. It's never his fault. The victim mentality get tiresome."
That I do agree with.

Always got the feeling he was happy enough when Clare beat us.

I was happy he left when he did, but that's irrelevant to my question.

What has he done wrong in Clare other than win a few all Ireland which you aren't exactly swimming in?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3857 - 16/07/2023 16:36:41    2494819

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Replying To countyman2022:  "He's more than welcome down here. Ye just turn on yer own. Always have someone else to blame. Never yer fault."
"Ye just turn on your own"

With the exception of the Fitzgeralds, name one Clare man the people of Clare have turned on?

We're the good people of Wexford delighted with Liam Dunne before Davy or did ye turn on him and demand change?

Give those questions an answer there please?

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 16/07/2023 16:42:02    2494821

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "That I do agree with.

Always got the feeling he was happy enough when Clare beat us.

I was happy he left when he did, but that's irrelevant to my question.

What has he done wrong in Clare other than win a few all Ireland which you aren't exactly swimming in?"
I am not a spokesperson for Clare. Nor do I intend to list out any grievances I would have with the man.

I don't know why me saying he is the wrong man for Waterford has turned into a "why do Clare hate him" debate. Do you think he is right for Waterford and will bring them places?

This is simply my opinion based on what I have seen this year (I also said last year Waterford wild do nothing which has proven to be true). It has nothing to do with my feelings on his character which admittedly are not positive.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 16/07/2023 16:55:22    2494829

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As a hurling fan, it's great than Davy is managing a senior inter county team. Whether you love him or hate him, the guy is entertainment and box office. And to be fair, a more than respectable track record of success.

That said, I would HATE him to be anywhere near the Kilkenny job!

I enjoy the soap opera, so long as my county isn't the soap opera!

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1257 - 16/07/2023 18:00:45    2494849

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  ""Ye just turn on your own"

With the exception of the Fitzgeralds, name one Clare man the people of Clare have turned on?

We're the good people of Wexford delighted with Liam Dunne before Davy or did ye turn on him and demand change?

Give those questions an answer there please?"
Didn't ye elect a fella called De Va Lera over 100 years ago in an election in Clare? And he had nothing at all to do with the county. It was just an opportunistic shot on his part that Clare people fell for and voted against the good Clare man Patrick Lynch. And there are more recent examples which I won't go into here!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2354 - 16/07/2023 18:09:39    2494855

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Didn't ye elect a fella called De Va Lera over 100 years ago in an election in Clare? And he had nothing at all to do with the county. It was just an opportunistic shot on his part that Clare people fell for and voted against the good Clare man Patrick Lynch. And there are more recent examples which I won't go into here!"
Yeah and he turned out terrible sure……

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 16/07/2023 19:13:49    2494878

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Replying To ballydalane:  "As a hurling fan, it's great than Davy is managing a senior inter county team. Whether you love him or hate him, the guy is entertainment and box office. And to be fair, a more than respectable track record of success.

That said, I would HATE him to be anywhere near the Kilkenny job!

I enjoy the soap opera, so long as my county isn't the soap opera!"
So basically like saying it's great to sit back and enjoy the popcorn and sh*tshow Davy brings to the table as long as it doesn't effect your own county. Agree 100%.

Mad to see Wexford lads who wanted his head 2 years ago on here having a go at me for saying he is bad for Waterford.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 16/07/2023 19:18:36    2494884

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  ""Ye just turn on your own"

With the exception of the Fitzgeralds, name one Clare man the people of Clare have turned on?

We're the good people of Wexford delighted with Liam Dunne before Davy or did ye turn on him and demand change?

Give those questions an answer there please?"
Most of us were happy enough with the improvements Liam Dunne made to our Senior intercounty set up. We were heading down the same road as Offaly before he came in. In fairness to Davy he did alot of good for Wexford hurling too. The one big critism I'd have of him is he didn't develop any new players who weren't already near enough ready made for Senior intercounty.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16704 - 16/07/2023 19:36:37    2494894

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Replying To Viking66:  "Most of us were happy enough with the improvements Liam Dunne made to our Senior intercounty set up. We were heading down the same road as Offaly before he came in. In fairness to Davy he did alot of good for Wexford hurling too. The one big critism I'd have of him is he didn't develop any new players who weren't already near enough ready made for Senior intercounty."
Any of us with any sense will be eternally grateful to Liam dunne

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3857 - 16/07/2023 22:25:45    2494942

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Yeah and he turned out terrible sure……"
Good for nothing nor no-one!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2354 - 17/07/2023 03:19:38    2494954

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Any of us with any sense will be eternally grateful to Liam dunne"
100%. A true Wexford hero as a player and manager... treated badly during his time, didn't get the support that is required by top teams that Davy subsequently got. Baffling

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 17/07/2023 08:23:37    2494960

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Yeah and he turned out terrible sure……"
Well look at what he ended up doing to some of his own... my point proven.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 863 - 17/07/2023 09:05:38    2494977

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Yeah and he turned out terrible sure……"
He wasn't the great leader he was cracked up to be.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16704 - 17/07/2023 10:39:55    2495019

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Replying To TomWex:  "100%. A true Wexford hero as a player and manager... treated badly during his time, didn't get the support that is required by top teams that Davy subsequently got. Baffling"
Usual story here with club politics. It's one of the things I like most about Keith Rossiter incidentally. He also picked lads from clubs who would be looked down on by some of the hurling snobs here.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16704 - 17/07/2023 10:43:47    2495022

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