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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2023

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Replying To daveboy:  "I'd agree. I think cork and tipp have the deepest strength looking at the 20-23 year old bracket right now. Both countys have introduced a lot of young lads to the conditioning needed at this level and they'll get stronger for it. The hurling is always there in cork and tipp. Kilkenny too have a nice crop coming. Limericks age profile is still very good. Clare have likes of conlon 34 Tony Kelly and Shane o donnell 30 this year so maybe their window is now or next Year. Clare have a nice bitbof talent coming through but they were a waste ground for too many years through county board neglect. They might have a small dip in a couple of years but should come back. I think Limerick will be competing in croke park for another 5 years minimum as this group is still largely young."
I agree. I can see a dip for a year or two for Clare in a couple of years but behind this years All Ireland winning minors we have a huge amount of quality young hurlers coming through. So the future is very bright

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 01/07/2023 20:41:03    2491112

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I agree. I can see a dip for a year or two for Clare in a couple of years but behind this years All Ireland winning minors we have a huge amount of quality young hurlers coming through. So the future is very bright"
Definitely

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 01/07/2023 22:02:43    2491165

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I agree. I can see a dip for a year or two for Clare in a couple of years but behind this years All Ireland winning minors we have a huge amount of quality young hurlers coming through. So the future is very bright"
Definitely. The structures are now correct too in clare and the right people driving it and a bit like limerick in the strike time clare will never allow politics get in the way of development again. You need to find your low point at times. Limerick had theirs in 09 and clare possibly with the 40 point defeat a few years back in the minor grade.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 01/07/2023 22:05:29    2491167

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Replying To daveboy:  "Definitely. The structures are now correct too in clare and the right people driving it and a bit like limerick in the strike time clare will never allow politics get in the way of development again. You need to find your low point at times. Limerick had theirs in 09 and clare possibly with the 40 point defeat a few years back in the minor grade."
Every team will have their low points, it's all part of the cycle. It's how quick you can come out of it that matters.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 01/07/2023 22:53:51    2491189

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I agree. I can see a dip for a year or two for Clare in a couple of years but behind this years All Ireland winning minors we have a huge amount of quality young hurlers coming through. So the future is very bright"
Yes indeed LRH, but with one proviso, if you look at underage results in Munster over the past five years, there seems to be very little between any of the teams.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4517 - 02/07/2023 07:03:24    2491221

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Replying To Viking66:  "If we had got those results it would be rightly praised. But this is the great hurling county Tipperary we are talking about. Tipped by many of their fans for number 29. I wasn't running down Cork in any way with that post. I personally believe Cork will win several AI titles before Tipp win another one."
That's fair.

Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 64 - 02/07/2023 10:45:39    2491246

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Replying To Viking66:  "If we had got those results it would be rightly praised. But this is the great hurling county Tipperary we are talking about. Tipped by many of their fans for number 29. I wasn't running down Cork in any way with that post. I personally believe Cork will win several AI titles before Tipp win another one."
I think it'd be almost weird seeing Cork win an all Ireland at this point.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 02/07/2023 11:11:31    2491259

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I think it'd be almost weird seeing Cork win an all Ireland at this point."
Who are Cork playing in the semi-finals?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 02/07/2023 13:41:27    2491307

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I think it'd be almost weird seeing Cork win an all Ireland at this point."
I know what you mean.
It's hard to get your head around it some times. An entire generation of Cork youngsters who've never seen them win a hurling All Ireland Ireland.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1114 - 02/07/2023 14:12:51    2491327

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Replying To skillet:  "I know what you mean.
It's hard to get your head around it some times. An entire generation of Cork youngsters who've never seen them win a hurling All Ireland Ireland."
Yup, I didn't even really mean it in a nasty way, but it's nigh on 20 years now, as you said an entire generation has passed without them winning it,, there are 22/23 year olds in Cork now who don't remember their team winning an all Ireland.
Thet just don't seem to have it in them anymore.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 02/07/2023 14:33:47    2491334

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Yup, I didn't even really mean it in a nasty way, but it's nigh on 20 years now, as you said an entire generation has passed without them winning it,, there are 22/23 year olds in Cork now who don't remember their team winning an all Ireland.
Thet just don't seem to have it in them anymore."
What about all the people who have never seen there county win an All Ireland and never will.

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 176 - 03/07/2023 00:25:02    2491621

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Replying To skillet:  "I know what you mean.
It's hard to get your head around it some times. An entire generation of Cork youngsters who've never seen them win a hurling All Ireland Ireland."
Thoughts and prayers with them. Imagine being a Cork youngster who never saw them winning an All-Ireland........

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 03/07/2023 10:20:58    2491691

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Yup, I didn't even really mean it in a nasty way, but it's nigh on 20 years now, as you said an entire generation has passed without them winning it,, there are 22/23 year olds in Cork now who don't remember their team winning an all Ireland.
Thet just don't seem to have it in them anymore."
Yeah, next year it will be 19 years since Cork's last All-Ireland - that's even longer than the Tipp "famine" from 1971 to 1989. However, Cork haven't too far off the standard for most of the 18 years, and they have won a few Munsters and contested a couple of finals. They seem to be getting closer but even with their successful Under 20 teams there's no guarantee of an early break-through given the number of quality teams around at the moment.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 619 - 03/07/2023 10:23:11    2491694

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Replying To midlands:  "Yeah, next year it will be 19 years since Cork's last All-Ireland - that's even longer than the Tipp "famine" from 1971 to 1989. However, Cork haven't too far off the standard for most of the 18 years, and they have won a few Munsters and contested a couple of finals. They seem to be getting closer but even with their successful Under 20 teams there's no guarantee of an early break-through given the number of quality teams around at the moment."
I regularly meet a lad from Cork and he says the same thing every time i meet him (all in good fun) about how we were so lucky in 2018 to get over them in the semis. I tell him ye were at yer best back then and have never got back to those levels since, whereas we were just getting started :)

Cork are a great team with great supporters who have stuck with the team through the lean times and are definitely not far off.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 453 - 03/07/2023 11:09:15    2491721

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Replying To midlands:  "Yeah, next year it will be 19 years since Cork's last All-Ireland - that's even longer than the Tipp "famine" from 1971 to 1989. However, Cork haven't too far off the standard for most of the 18 years, and they have won a few Munsters and contested a couple of finals. They seem to be getting closer but even with their successful Under 20 teams there's no guarantee of an early break-through given the number of quality teams around at the moment."
Closer? They didn't make it past Munster this year.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/07/2023 11:22:06    2491728

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Were living in the fairest period of Hurling ever
Since 1980
Kilkenny have won 15
Cork have won 6
Tipp have won 6
Limerick have won 4
Galway have won 4
Offaly have won 4
Clare have won 3
Wexford have won 1
Waterford have been in 3 finals
Bar Kilkenny that is the most even spread in hurling since maybe the opening 30 years of the GAA. It's amazing what counties getting organized can do, mighnt have the numbers to keep it going for more than 5/10 years at a time but it's great to see the stranglehold th big 3 had broken...bar Kilkenny. I know they're still the most successful 3 over that time period but still over those 40 or so years, that of Corks 30 only 6 have came over 43 years and of Tipps 28 only 6 have came 43 years as well, shows the dominance those few had, partially down to probably the only counties who had any but of organization about them. Long may this even share continue...although Limerick making a good attempt at stopping that but tbf they're definitely making up for lost time.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 03/07/2023 11:32:40    2491733

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Replying To midlands:  "Yeah, next year it will be 19 years since Cork's last All-Ireland - that's even longer than the Tipp "famine" from 1971 to 1989. However, Cork haven't too far off the standard for most of the 18 years, and they have won a few Munsters and contested a couple of finals. They seem to be getting closer but even with their successful Under 20 teams there's no guarantee of an early break-through given the number of quality teams around at the moment."
Ah cone. Cork have been fairly well beaten every they got out of Munster and too many of their players are six or seven years in situ they seriously need a heavy infusion of youth Like Limerick in 18

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4517 - 03/07/2023 12:42:20    2491775

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what has happened to our game at all..God be with the days when one All Ireland hurling semi final was the first Sunday in August, preceded by a minor semi final, and the second was the following Sunday etc..An All Ireland semi final at 6 o'clock of a Saturday evening and the second one the next day...what in the name of God is all this rushing about for...its gone beyond a joke...maybe pull out the small goals on Saturday evening and let Clare and Kilkenny have one half the pitch and Limerick and Galway the other half and get the two games "out of the way" altogether the one day....the games are destroyed attraction and build up wise...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 03/07/2023 18:35:57    2491957

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Were living in the fairest period of Hurling ever
Since 1980
Kilkenny have won 15
Cork have won 6
Tipp have won 6
Limerick have won 4
Galway have won 4
Offaly have won 4
Clare have won 3
Wexford have won 1
Waterford have been in 3 finals
Bar Kilkenny that is the most even spread in hurling since maybe the opening 30 years of the GAA. It's amazing what counties getting organized can do, mighnt have the numbers to keep it going for more than 5/10 years at a time but it's great to see the stranglehold th big 3 had broken...bar Kilkenny. I know they're still the most successful 3 over that time period but still over those 40 or so years, that of Corks 30 only 6 have came over 43 years and of Tipps 28 only 6 have came 43 years as well, shows the dominance those few had, partially down to probably the only counties who had any but of organization about them. Long may this even share continue...although Limerick making a good attempt at stopping that but tbf they're definitely making up for lost time."
So much for the 'Big 3' , it looks like 1 leading team and the rest sharing our 2/3 of the rest.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 904 - 03/07/2023 18:47:06    2491963

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Every team will have their low points, it's all part of the cycle. It's how quick you can come out of it that matters."
Clare are on the up trend. Looking now like they know how to add and subtract parts. Let's be honest Limerick are a machine that arrived assembled. This did not happen by accident but brought along by leaders who only had the interest of Limerick at heart. Personal egos are often the down fall of teams. Of course it is a big help to have the right engineers driving them trains.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3134 - 04/07/2023 00:39:48    2492014

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