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Replying To katser: "I'm all geared up for a crack at the smug Tipp lads in the Quarter Final but ..........there would be some crack if Offaly pulled off one of the greatest upsets in hurling!" Tipp certainly aren't taking Offaly for granted, but if they do get through any Tipp supporters I know would have preferred to play Kilkenny in the quarter final rather than Galway. All Tipp-Galway championship games over the past 15 years have gone down to the wire, with both teams scraping through by a point in some instances. Sadly, we won't see the likes of Joe Canning, Paudie Maher, David Burke or Brendan Maher - men who really stood out in those terrific games. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 604 - 16/06/2023 14:01:25 2486888 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Ah stats, and how you use them. In the last 23 years, Tipp have appeared in 7 All Irelands, winning 4. Their 3 losses (2009, 2011 and 2014 were against great Kilkenny teams. Tipp, just like Kilkenny are still a force in hurling. Your smugness about all things to do with Limerick is boring." But were KK or indeed Tipp that great in '14. A very average Limerick, very few of whom would get on the present team, beat Tipp in '14 and '14 and took your great KK down to the wire in'14. KK were long past their best when Tipp beat them in '16 and 19. You say they reached 7 Finals in 23 years. The Premier County in their heyday contested eight finals in eleven years- from '58 to '68- a long way from anything they have done since the rules were changed for the best around 1970. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 16/06/2023 14:07:14 2486890 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "It's got nothing to do with the big 3. I was countering someone who had cherry picked stats to show Tipp in a bad light." I am only quoting facts. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 16/06/2023 14:08:47 2486894 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Offaly Galway Limerick Just to get to a final but I love the fact have guaranteed a Tipp AI from day one. You might have been sweating a little in Thurles after the Waterford match at home that ye lost badly? If you were even there?" we have 42 Munster finals and 28 All Irelands another Munster final not a priority and yes I seated a bit at Waterford game but we are where we want to be Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:09:19 2486895 Link
Replying To slayer: "Premier28, didn't you post here in 2010 as Thurlesblues? Your posts are gas, they were back then and are now :-)" Never heard of Thurles blues wrong person Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:10:15 2486896 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Nothing like big 3 people to stick together!!!" Oh yes indeed. I am 73 years of age and it has always been thus. Anytime we played Tipp and a Corkman refereed we always got SFA.. No doubt they stick together as Kerry and Dublin always do in football. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 16/06/2023 14:12:45 2486898 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "They have fierce notions for a county that have only won 6 All Irelands in the last fifty years. Just one more than Limerick. The early 70s It was about the years that the whole hurling game changed. Tipp won a lot of All Irelands with the likes of the John Doyle Maher and Carey Full Back line. They would not last five minutes in today's game" Limerick have 11 in the history of the game and took 45 years to win one so that is nonsensical talk if thats the case Mackey and crew wouldnt survive now either Tipp is the only county to win an All Ireland in every decade in the history of the game and I can see another one on the roll of honour this year Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:12:52 2486899 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Considering Tipp have won only six All Irelands in the last Fifty years-one more than Limerick- it could take a hell of a long time to catch up on KK." How many have Kilkenny won in the last 8 years? Tipp have won 2 so gap closing Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:13:43 2486900 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Ah stats, and how you use them. In the last 23 years, Tipp have appeared in 7 All Irelands, winning 4. Their 3 losses (2009, 2011 and 2014 were against great Kilkenny teams. Tipp, just like Kilkenny are still a force in hurling. Your smugness about all things to do with Limerick is boring." yes cockey cat you would swear they had a 30 All Irelands the way they go on and only have 11 as a result of this team winning a few when Tipp and Kilkenny were in transition and when this team is gone it will more than likely take them another 45 years to win another one they think they are up there with Tipp and Kilkenny God love them Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:15:51 2486902 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "It's not me that is denigrating other counties teams. Maybe should address your 'get over yourself ' comment to some of your own county people commenting on here." Says the man who is constantly whinging about remarks made by Limerick Contributors. You sure don't do irony. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 16/06/2023 14:16:08 2486903 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "As someone of Tipp genes I can attest to that and it used to really annoy me when they were playing Dublin, especially when a certain former barefooted chap was either managing or punditing. Mind you he came to have the same contempt for some of his own, so I've forgotten most of it. On other hand, a certain degree of arrogance possibly helps to maintain standards. Tipp people are just more forward in its expression. Mind you, some of your own are catching up :-)" The excellent Tipp team of the 60's would survive in any era as there was no back door system and save for a shock defeat by Waterford in the 63 Munster final would have won 5 in a row if they had a second chance so that is greatness same as the great KK team of between 06 and 14 when they played Tipp in 7 All Ireland finals with both Teams winning 3 each with one draw Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:20:08 2486907 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Does it maintain standards though Barney? Since I moved to Wexford in the early 90s Tipp have won the same number of AIs as Limerick. Cork have won the same as Clare. There hasn't really been a big 3. Only a big 1!!!" an overall blip in the bigger scheme of things You are looking at a small window instead of overall picture as those big three will dominate again shortly its only a matter of time Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:21:23 2486908 Link
Replying To katser: "I'm all geared up for a crack at the smug Tipp lads in the Quarter Final but ..........there would be some crack if Offaly pulled off one of the greatest upsets in hurling!" wouldnt you love that? it would stop the juggernaut that you know is coming Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:22:39 2486909 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Does it maintain standards though Barney? Since I moved to Wexford in the early 90s Tipp have won the same number of AIs as Limerick. Cork have won the same as Clare. There hasn't really been a big 3. Only a big 1. Kilkenny have won only 1 less AI than the next 4 counties above put together." As in they will always be competitive, and always expect to be. So never going to accept being second fiddle for long. Much the same as Dublin and Kerry football people and with much the same consequences for the lesser sport in both counties who are kept well in their box and who the top dog feels no compunction about raiding for talent when it suits! Similar tensions down your way? BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3547 - 16/06/2023 14:23:17 2486910 Link
Replying To midlands: "Tipp won three All-Irelands with that full back line. In fairness, they wouldn't be the only players from that era who would have difficulty in adjusting to the modern game. And most counties had similar players at the time, except maybe not as good!" they won 4 61 62 64 65 and if had back door would have won 63 also greatest team of all time Jimmy Doyle Nealon Mackey McKenna Devanney etc to name but a few Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 16/06/2023 14:26:41 2486914 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Nothing like big 3 people to stick together!!!" I fail to see how Wexford, Limerick, Clare, Galway etc grouping together is any different tbh. People outside of KK, Tipp and Cork always support any other county over the so called "big 3" (which hasn't really been a thing for years). Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 61 - 16/06/2023 14:57:43 2486926 Link
Replying To Premier28: "they won 4 61 62 64 65 and if had back door would have won 63 also greatest team of all time Jimmy Doyle Nealon Mackey McKenna Devanney etc to name but a few" Your 63 argument is another joke. Waterford beat Tipp in the Munster,league and Oireachtas Finals that year and an ageing Wexford team beat them by doubl.scored in ,z.60. Not as bad as 59 when Waterford beat them by ,17 points in a 60 minute game. That Tipp team never won more than a three in a row in Munster. No way the greatest team ever. The four in a row Kk team by a country mile Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 16/06/2023 17:39:38 2486974 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "But were KK or indeed Tipp that great in '14. A very average Limerick, very few of whom would get on the present team, beat Tipp in '14 and '14 and took your great KK down to the wire in'14. KK were long past their best when Tipp beat them in '16 and 19. You say they reached 7 Finals in 23 years. The Premier County in their heyday contested eight finals in eleven years- from '58 to '68- a long way from anything they have done since the rules were changed for the best around 1970." Oh, so that's what happened? I often wondered why Tipp went the bones of 20 years, 1971-1989, without winning an AI, and in many years in that period without even winning one championship game. But your comment OTM caused me to read up on the rule changes that happened. It seems that the GAA really cleaned things up back then, even got rid of the ban. Taking the butchering and thuggery out of the game doesn't seem to have suited Tipp at all, and it took them nearly two decades to learn that you could no longer cut the head off an opponent as if your hurley were a scythe. It explains a lot! foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2232 - 16/06/2023 18:02:31 2486976 Link
Replying To Premier28: "they won 4 61 62 64 65 and if had back door would have won 63 also greatest team of all time Jimmy Doyle Nealon Mackey McKenna Devanney etc to name but a few" If there was a back door system back then they might have lost in '61 and '62. In '61 they only beat Dublin by a point in '61 and Tipp got two goals in the first 90 seconds against an old Wexford team in '62 and only fell over the line by two points. Anyway, as you would say yourself, Cork, Clare. Galway and Limerick were all in serious transition then, Laois were gone and Offaly had not yet emerged as a serious unit, so that Tipp really beat very little. A far cry from today when there are about ten serious teams properly resourced and trained taking part. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4495 - 16/06/2023 19:08:24 2486983 Link
Replying To Frontier1000: "I fail to see how Wexford, Limerick, Clare, Galway etc grouping together is any different tbh. People outside of KK, Tipp and Cork always support any other county over the so called "big 3" (which hasn't really been a thing for years)." Tipp and Kilkenny have won 10 All Irelands between them from 2006-2019 so what do you mean by the big 3 not being a thing for years? Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 17/06/2023 10:23:17 2487032 Link