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Replying To daveboy:  "I think the cork team is strong and has been picked in a very match ups type of way. Sean o Donoghue on Gillane Millerick yo track Tom morrissey O Leary on Casey? Downey on Hego ? Like meade to track Lynch Darragh Fitzgibbon to drop off hannon and expose the space Dalton to stifle Hayes and Kingston to expose Mike caseys pace. Its a smart team for me but some of the players named haven't hurled loads this year and and some a bit lacking in form. It's an all in approach from corm which is understandable but I feel their bench is weak consequently. Ive question marks placed where players may or may not start for Limerick. It's going to be hot Sunday so the bench will be emptied I'd imagine."
Can't wait for this one, so much at stake. There are still lots of positives for Limerick going in, Tom Morrissey form has been unreal and no reason why he won't do damage again, Cathal O'Neills form looks really good. Kyle Hayes is a player in form who can cause Cork a lot of issues. Tynan was spent completely coming off after marking him and Kyle still had a strong influence. Barrett did a great job on Flanagan, do Cork have someone of that calibre to follow Flanagan. Gillane looked sharp with the small amount of ball he got, if we could feed him more he will cause damage. WOD looked back to his best too against Tipp. Would love Hegarty to just turn on beast mode again and go hell for leather. I think you have to start him rather than bring him on.

On the other side Cork look good too, they will travel to Limerick with complete confidence they will knock us out and will relish the challenge and the chance for revenge after recent games. The one question mark over them is if their forwards will work hard enough to stop our backs influencing the game, with the exception of Lynch all our playmakers are backs. If Nash, Byrnes, Hannon and Hayes can get their game going forward going our chances of winning improve dramatically.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 434 - 26/05/2023 10:33:56    2481671

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I disagree. I give us a good shot at the Munster title but we are leaking too many goals to challenge for the big one and now with Cleary potentially out for the season this hurts our defensive capabilities more.

I saw a table last night of the All Time Round Robin Munster league and Clare are on top but also have conceded more goals than any other team. Crazy considering Waterford have only 1 win and 1 draw out of 15 games yet we have conceded more goals."
That's alot to do with their managers and the way they set up the team. Is it better to set up to score 20 points and concede no goals, or set up to score a couple of goals in a 30 point total and concede a few? That table you saw last night should answer that question LRH.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 26/05/2023 10:34:18    2481672

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Replying To daveboy:  "I think the cork team is strong and has been picked in a very match ups type of way. Sean o Donoghue on Gillane Millerick yo track Tom morrissey O Leary on Casey? Downey on Hego ? Like meade to track Lynch Darragh Fitzgibbon to drop off hannon and expose the space Dalton to stifle Hayes and Kingston to expose Mike caseys pace. Its a smart team for me but some of the players named haven't hurled loads this year and and some a bit lacking in form. It's an all in approach from corm which is understandable but I feel their bench is weak consequently. Ive question marks placed where players may or may not start for Limerick. It's going to be hot Sunday so the bench will be emptied I'd imagine."
It does seemed to be picked specifically with Limerick in mind but without trying to be disrespectful I'm not sure those backs are all of a sudden good enough to mark the Limerick players you mentioned. Limerick will have a plan for Joyce too and I'd be surprised if they dont negate his influence on the game. I think Kingston is the key one for Cork regardless of who hes on. Hes the one for me who can make a difference and I really dont understand how he isnt the first forward on the team sheet. I think Limerick will win with a it to spare but very interested to see who starts and where they line out as you'd imagine there will be some tweaking this week.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/05/2023 11:05:04    2481688

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "However, I think Clare will win the Munster and All Titles this year and that the one poor performance they had last year was just a blip.I think Johnny Murphy yellow carding the Full Back may actually benefit as their Full Line are well able to hurl any opponent like Nash, Finn and Morrissey have done for years."
I disagree as well. I think they were vulnerable in the full back line before but you cant underestimate the loss of Cleary especially as you'd imagine it might see McInerney being moved out of arguably the best half back line (this year). He'd be a huge loss there I feel even if he does discover his form of years ago at full back.
They've a right chance at Munster but to go the whole way they still have a bit to prove in my opinion. I thought they were obviously very good against Limerick, poor enough against Tipp and good against Cork but could have easily drawn that game. Having said that, theyre building well and I feel Clare and Tipp are probably the happiest of any of the counties up to this point - with Galway and KK probably delighted to see all the focus is off them. I'd probably have Clare 4th for the All Ireland currently behind Limerick, Galway and Kilkenny.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/05/2023 11:11:31    2481694

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Replying To daveboy:  "Last 5 years must have hurt a lot Lohan"
He is not well.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 793 - 26/05/2023 11:49:32    2481702

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I disagree. I give us a good shot at the Munster title but we are leaking too many goals to challenge for the big one and now with Cleary potentially out for the season this hurts our defensive capabilities more.

I saw a table last night of the All Time Round Robin Munster league and Clare are on top but also have conceded more goals than any other team. Crazy considering Waterford have only 1 win and 1 draw out of 15 games yet we have conceded more goals."
Do Clare get a trophy for that record?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 793 - 26/05/2023 11:50:27    2481703

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I disagree as well. I think they were vulnerable in the full back line before but you cant underestimate the loss of Cleary especially as you'd imagine it might see McInerney being moved out of arguably the best half back line (this year). He'd be a huge loss there I feel even if he does discover his form of years ago at full back.
They've a right chance at Munster but to go the whole way they still have a bit to prove in my opinion. I thought they were obviously very good against Limerick, poor enough against Tipp and good against Cork but could have easily drawn that game. Having said that, theyre building well and I feel Clare and Tipp are probably the happiest of any of the counties up to this point - with Galway and KK probably delighted to see all the focus is off them. I'd probably have Clare 4th for the All Ireland currently behind Limerick, Galway and Kilkenny."
Tiobraid, I feel both Lynch and Hegarty may not start. Coughlan may be placed at Wing Back, with Hayes going back to Center Forward. A Half Forward of O'Neill, Hayes and Morrissey with Gullane, Flanagan and Casey inside is the way to go as far as I am concerned, with the likes of Lynch, Hegarty bursting their traces to come on.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 26/05/2023 11:52:17    2481704

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I disagree as well. I think they were vulnerable in the full back line before but you cant underestimate the loss of Cleary especially as you'd imagine it might see McInerney being moved out of arguably the best half back line (this year). He'd be a huge loss there I feel even if he does discover his form of years ago at full back.
They've a right chance at Munster but to go the whole way they still have a bit to prove in my opinion. I thought they were obviously very good against Limerick, poor enough against Tipp and good against Cork but could have easily drawn that game. Having said that, theyre building well and I feel Clare and Tipp are probably the happiest of any of the counties up to this point - with Galway and KK probably delighted to see all the focus is off them. I'd probably have Clare 4th for the All Ireland currently behind Limerick, Galway and Kilkenny."
I feel Tipp will be in the shake up also, when Jason Forde is back.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 26/05/2023 11:58:42    2481707

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Do Clare get a trophy for that record?"
No but id give Wexford a shout for one next year..................................

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 26/05/2023 12:15:19    2481709

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Tiobraid, I feel both Lynch and Hegarty may not start. Coughlan may be placed at Wing Back, with Hayes going back to Center Forward. A Half Forward of O'Neill, Hayes and Morrissey with Gullane, Flanagan and Casey inside is the way to go as far as I am concerned, with the likes of Lynch, Hegarty bursting their traces to come on."
It'll be interesting. Lynch is a class act but probably cant have complaints if he doesnt start. I think he could be serious option to play in the Peter Casey role though. Playing at 11 also against Cork is the one team that might give him more freedom. Limerick have never been in a position like this under Kiely where players positions have been under threat as much so its intriguing to see what happens. Moving Hayes up would give Cork no end of problems but his pace might be a useful asset against these Cork forward too...
Re Tipp - we are in the shake up for Munster alright but despite the team news, I'm hearing both Barrett and Morris are out so they'll be a huge loss against a Waterford team that still have the likes of Barron, Dessie, Aussie and Stephen Bennett in it. Let those boys off the reins a bit and anything can happen especially against a new Tipp defence and keeper. Tipp might have only 5 of the starters playing that started against Waterford last year and Breen has gone from WF to FB as well. Its a huge turn over of players and getting to a Munster final would def be a success this year but I'm far from confident.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/05/2023 12:16:48    2481710

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Do Clare get a trophy for that record?"
Cant understand your hatred of Clare we don't have a huge amount of rivalry as some one who loves Wexford, its people & hurling I cant understand where you get it from.

A few posts from our neighbours who obviously hate us as well, but you cannot resist smart stupid comments will you try & grow up over the Summer

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 985 - 26/05/2023 12:29:47    2481714

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Replying To clooney:  "Cant understand your hatred of Clare we don't have a huge amount of rivalry as some one who loves Wexford, its people & hurling I cant understand where you get it from.

A few posts from our neighbours who obviously hate us as well, but you cannot resist smart stupid comments will you try & grow up over the Summer"
You obviously weren't paying attention to anything Lohan was saying about Wexford the last few years then. The rant about Wexford trying to make Clare players unavailable via COVID, the rubbish he said about James Owens (every ref makes aggregious mistakes), etc. "The Clare Times" on Twitter sums up the special kind of toxicity in Clare GAA circles. Look at all of the drama the county has been generating over the years.

Personally I would rather any other county, including Kilkenny, wining an AI over Clare.

Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 267 - 26/05/2023 12:44:19    2481716

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Replying To clooney:  "Cant understand your hatred of Clare we don't have a huge amount of rivalry as some one who loves Wexford, its people & hurling I cant understand where you get it from.

A few posts from our neighbours who obviously hate us as well, but you cannot resist smart stupid comments will you try & grow up over the Summer"
How can you not understand why?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 793 - 26/05/2023 12:44:32    2481717

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Replying To Fulgrim:  "You obviously weren't paying attention to anything Lohan was saying about Wexford the last few years then. The rant about Wexford trying to make Clare players unavailable via COVID, the rubbish he said about James Owens (every ref makes aggregious mistakes), etc. "The Clare Times" on Twitter sums up the special kind of toxicity in Clare GAA circles. Look at all of the drama the county has been generating over the years.

Personally I would rather any other county, including Kilkenny, wining an AI over Clare."
Clooney of course they hate us (Viking excluded) and Lohan. I would hate any team that knocks us out of the championship so regularly. When they see Clare, they get sad.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 26/05/2023 13:17:31    2481725

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Replying To tiobraid:  "It'll be interesting. Lynch is a class act but probably cant have complaints if he doesnt start. I think he could be serious option to play in the Peter Casey role though. Playing at 11 also against Cork is the one team that might give him more freedom. Limerick have never been in a position like this under Kiely where players positions have been under threat as much so its intriguing to see what happens. Moving Hayes up would give Cork no end of problems but his pace might be a useful asset against these Cork forward too...
Re Tipp - we are in the shake up for Munster alright but despite the team news, I'm hearing both Barrett and Morris are out so they'll be a huge loss against a Waterford team that still have the likes of Barron, Dessie, Aussie and Stephen Bennett in it. Let those boys off the reins a bit and anything can happen especially against a new Tipp defence and keeper. Tipp might have only 5 of the starters playing that started against Waterford last year and Breen has gone from WF to FB as well. Its a huge turn over of players and getting to a Munster final would def be a success this year but I'm far from confident."
I think JK will stick with Hayes and wing back and feel that a small improvement in performance will be enough to get over the line. Clare and Tipp went with man on man for the most part of their games which kept Nash pinned to his position and in turn did not allow Hayes much room the go forward. Will Cork trust their full back line against Gillane and Flanagan without the cover of an extra defender? While both have not showed the form of 2022 yet there have been signs that if they get the right supply of ball they will do damage.
On Wat\Tipp if Waterford are playing for Davy they will run Tipp close but I fear that all is not right between management and players.

journeyman (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 26/05/2023 13:52:10    2481733

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Replying To clooney:  "Cant understand your hatred of Clare we don't have a huge amount of rivalry as some one who loves Wexford, its people & hurling I cant understand where you get it from.

A few posts from our neighbours who obviously hate us as well, but you cannot resist smart stupid comments will you try & grow up over the Summer"
Clooney his first hate is Waterford. Second Ballygunner and then Clare. Though ye get elevated because of the success enjoying now and our demise. Lets not stoop to ever treating the great Wexford people like that. Never engage directly with this buffoon.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3044 - 26/05/2023 14:26:14    2481740

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Do Clare get a trophy for that record?"
Hopefully Limerick win Munster but if they don't I'd love Clare to win it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 26/05/2023 14:54:41    2481754

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Replying To clooney:  "Cant understand your hatred of Clare we don't have a huge amount of rivalry as some one who loves Wexford, its people & hurling I cant understand where you get it from.

A few posts from our neighbours who obviously hate us as well, but you cannot resist smart stupid comments will you try & grow up over the Summer"
Ah Countyman likes a little bite! It's only a forum you need to take it all a little less seriously lad!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 26/05/2023 14:55:57    2481755

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Replying To Canuck:  "Clooney his first hate is Waterford. Second Ballygunner and then Clare. Though ye get elevated because of the success enjoying now and our demise. Lets not stoop to ever treating the great Wexford people like that. Never engage directly with this buffoon."
You shouldn't let him get the better of you Canuck! When you rise he wins!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 26/05/2023 14:58:32    2481756

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Replying To Canuck:  "Clooney his first hate is Waterford. Second Ballygunner and then Clare. Though ye get elevated because of the success enjoying now and our demise. Lets not stoop to ever treating the great Wexford people like that. Never engage directly with this buffoon."
I have great time for the people of the sunny south east both Wexford & Waterford so he certainly wont chance my mind on that.

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 985 - 26/05/2023 14:59:20    2481757

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