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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "It'll surely sell out. First time for a quarter final i think?"
Has to be a sell out. Mayo the best supporters in the country. Dublin huge following would fill croker on their own but you have Derry and Cork too and Derry will bring a big crowd too. Hope Cork get the support they deserve.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 29/06/2023 16:30:50    2490697

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Ticket sales for Sunday seem to be a bit of a mess. Sold out according to Ticketmaster but i doubt that very much.

Thankfully i have a Parnell Pass but have heard that clubs themselves are not getting or requesting an allocation?

Be interesting to see how many come back on sale today after the ST and county pass deadlines. Anyway, seems like for all their plamás of the clubs, that big "events" are slipping out of club control too when it comes to ticketing."
I don't know why ticketmaster persists with this system of releasing tickets in batches. I think it's a way of creating the impression that the fixture is a sell out and thereby creating early demand.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1991 - 29/06/2023 16:32:45    2490698

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Replying To avonali:  "I don't know why ticketmaster persists with this system of releasing tickets in batches. I think it's a way of creating the impression that the fixture is a sell out and thereby creating early demand."
It must be run by Rte and croke park!!!!!!!

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 354 - 29/06/2023 16:36:56    2490701

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It is a strange scenario because it will be easier to get semi final tickets than quarter final tickets. Last year I got section 303 tickets even with the Tailteann cup final on. This year I am in the far corner of the Hogan and the only tickets I could get for a relative were row W of upper.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 264 - 29/06/2023 16:39:52    2490702

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Replying To avonali:  "I don't know why ticketmaster persists with this system of releasing tickets in batches. I think it's a way of creating the impression that the fixture is a sell out and thereby creating early demand."
Perhaps. Clubs might live to regret voluntarily agreeing not to take a share. Kerry county board had no part in distribution of tickets,

I don't think most Dublin clubs asked for any? It's probably a pain in the butt. Well it is, but the alternative is that more eventers get precedence over people who do support the games and are club members.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3545 - 29/06/2023 17:04:19    2490714

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Replying To avonali:  "I don't know why ticketmaster persists with this system of releasing tickets in batches. I think it's a way of creating the impression that the fixture is a sell out and thereby creating early demand."
As agents presume they do as told by GAA?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2303 - 29/06/2023 17:30:06    2490717

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It's all pyscological up North.
As far as anyone knows Derry's home kit is white with a red stripe, except when it suits them to say otherwise and make the other team change their kid.
https://derrygaa.ie/derrys-greatest-jersey/

Donegal did the same a few years back, they were always green with a yellow stripe, until they changed in the 1992 all ireland series and never looked back.

Sligo did something similar after beating Kildare in a qualifier."
I don't agree with Derry using the red jersey as home kit either but that Donegal scenario isn't the same. Derry went through phases of wearing a red jersey as home. I think the red jersey was the original jersey in the 1930s and then they changed to white in the late 1940s. They went back to red and even wore it in the 1958 All Ireland final. From the 60s to the 90s they were consistent with white. From 2004 to 2006 they wore red most games, wearing it against Kerry in the 2004 semi final.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 264 - 29/06/2023 18:08:44    2490722

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Has to be a sell out. Mayo the best supporters in the country. Dublin huge following would fill croker on their own but you have Derry and Cork too and Derry will bring a big crowd too. Hope Cork get the support they deserve."
A good Pop-Up opportunity for someone in Dublin: Rent-a-fan for the day. The Cork county board could pay foreign students up there or disgruntled Dubs to don Cork jerseys for 2-3 hours. Handy few pound for the lads, free ticket into match also, and the whole country would be under the impression that Cork had great fans and great support. Winners all round.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2231 - 29/06/2023 20:59:56    2490740

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Hello, anybody there? For the third time -

AIC SF pairings -
If Kerry is the only group winner in the AIC QFs, do they (as a group winner) automatically play Monaghan in the SFs (and Cork plays Mayo again)? - or any of the Group 1 trio could be drawn against Monaghan?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3244 - 29/06/2023 22:08:18    2490747

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Replying To hyperache:  "Agreed, it's just mind games. Same thing happened with Armagh and Derry, where Derry opted to wear the red jersey even though the white one was clearly the one they should have worn. I'm 100% expecting a clash of kits on Sunday,"
It's not mind games at all, Derry don't wear white and red, Derry's colours are red and white so mostly red. On the opposite Tyrone's colour's are white and red so mostly white.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2296 - 29/06/2023 23:45:37    2490753

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "A good Pop-Up opportunity for someone in Dublin: Rent-a-fan for the day. The Cork county board could pay foreign students up there or disgruntled Dubs to don Cork jerseys for 2-3 hours. Handy few pound for the lads, free ticket into match also, and the whole country would be under the impression that Cork had great fans and great support. Winners all round."
Ah you ré a gas man Forever. Look yeah the support for the Cork footballers is weak compared to the hurlers. It's like Dublin only the other way around. Like the Dublin hurlers the Cork footballers have a good die hard group of supporters but small compared to the hurlers. The sad thing though is when they are winning big games their support thickens but when they going through a bad period it's back to 5je die hards. I recall Michael Shields of Cork saying the great support Cork footballers got winning the Sam in 2010 but a year later for a league match there were only a tiny amount of supporters.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 29/06/2023 23:50:54    2490754

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Replying To omahant:  "Hello, anybody there? For the third time -

AIC SF pairings -
If Kerry is the only group winner in the AIC QFs, do they (as a group winner) automatically play Monaghan in the SFs (and Cork plays Mayo again)? - or any of the Group 1 trio could be drawn against Monaghan?"
Honestly I dont know

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 29/06/2023 23:52:04    2490755

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "They say the best team always wins but I'm afraid I don't agree with that. Sometimes the best team loses due to ref decisions etc
Ask Mayo? No disrespect to Derry but Cork were going to win that game in my humble option only for the Dacmvis sending off. It was a double whammy as Davis was innocent and Niall Cahalane was probably the one who probably should have been sent off. Niall was marking Enda Gormley and was giving him nothing. However after the sending off Niall changed his style (probably afraid of being sent off) and Gormley went on the have a stormer. Little things. Having said that Derry were a fine team and it was great to see the likes of Anthony Tohill win an all Ireland."
Mick McCarthy of O' Donovan Rossa, a club mate of Tony Davis captained Cork that day . A great corner forward from Skibbereen who died tragically in a car accident 5 years later. O' Donovan Rossa won the Cork football championship the previous year , in spite of bookies odds of 33/1 at the beginning of championship. They subsequently won the club all Ireland. Bookies are sometimes wrong!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 532 - 30/06/2023 01:08:02    2490758

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Replying To omahant:  "Hello, anybody there? For the third time -

AIC SF pairings -
If Kerry is the only group winner in the AIC QFs, do they (as a group winner) automatically play Monaghan in the SFs (and Cork plays Mayo again)? - or any of the Group 1 trio could be drawn against Monaghan?"
There are four group winners in the QFs.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3545 - 30/06/2023 08:44:13    2490764

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Replying To omahant:  "Hello, anybody there? For the third time -

AIC SF pairings -
If Kerry is the only group winner in the AIC QFs, do they (as a group winner) automatically play Monaghan in the SFs (and Cork plays Mayo again)? - or any of the Group 1 trio could be drawn against Monaghan?"
Can't see how that would be the case; they've already got their reward with a week off

drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 351 - 30/06/2023 08:59:00    2490768

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Replying To omahant:  "Hello, anybody there? For the third time -

AIC SF pairings -
If Kerry is the only group winner in the AIC QFs, do they (as a group winner) automatically play Monaghan in the SFs (and Cork plays Mayo again)? - or any of the Group 1 trio could be drawn against Monaghan?"
Would be an open draw in that case

armaghfan02 (Armagh) - Posts: 39 - 30/06/2023 09:19:29    2490773

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Replying To omahant:  "Hello, anybody there? For the third time -

AIC SF pairings -
If Kerry is the only group winner in the AIC QFs, do they (as a group winner) automatically play Monaghan in the SFs (and Cork plays Mayo again)? - or any of the Group 1 trio could be drawn against Monaghan?"
As far as I know, repeat parings will be avoided all the way to the final where possible, so I would assume it's as below, might have missed a few repeating parings. Not sure if it includes all the provincials rounds or just the final

The draw should be seeded, a 1 seed vs 4 seed and 2 seed vs 3 seed, because there's too many permutations in my opinion if teams can't meet again.

Kerry can't play Cork or Mayo
Cork can't play Mayo or Kerry
Mayo can't play Cork or Kerry
Derry can't play Armagh or Monaghan
Monaghan can't play Tyrone or Derry
Tyrone can't play Monaghan or Armagh
Armagh can't play Derry or Tyrone
Dublin can play anyone

So assuming the 4 favourites won as per Paddy Power's odds this morning

It would be Kerry, Armagh, Derry and Dublin in the semis, the only paring that couldn't happen is Derry v Armagh, so would likely be Kerry v Derry, Dublin v Armagh type thing.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 30/06/2023 09:42:22    2490776

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Mick McCarthy of O' Donovan Rossa, a club mate of Tony Davis captained Cork that day . A great corner forward from Skibbereen who died tragically in a car accident 5 years later. O' Donovan Rossa won the Cork football championship the previous year , in spite of bookies odds of 33/1 at the beginning of championship. They subsequently won the club all Ireland. Bookies are sometimes wrong!"
Yes I remember Mick McCarthy( rip). A fine footballer that caused Kerry many problems. Taken too young God rest him.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 30/06/2023 11:41:17    2490818

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Replying To armaghfan02:  "Would be an open draw in that case"
Thanks for all the responses.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3244 - 30/06/2023 15:08:23    2490865

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1993 brings back a lot of memories. I thought it was a tremendous game. I was in Dublin that weekend and the atmosphere was unreal. Niall Cahalan stayed on after punching a Derry player in the face yet Tony Davis got a red for nothing. Brilliant draw this weekend. 4 games that could go either way. With parents from Cork and Tyrone I hate to say it but final 4 will be Derry, Mayo, Armagh and Kerry. who will have to get the Tyrone monkey off their back at some point. Hope I am proved wrong but hope more that the games prove as good as they look on paper.

Brummiejoe (UK) - Posts: 8 - 30/06/2023 15:46:56    2490871

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