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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Looks like were playing Kilkenny in Walsh Cup on January 21st and Galway in the league February 4th both under lights in the park."
Read on the examiner too we're playing Cork in Pairc ui chaoimh on Sunday march 12.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 03/11/2022 22:01:13    2446425

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Read on the examiner too we're playing Cork in Pairc ui chaoimh on Sunday march 12."
Have we a full fixture list yet looking forward to the new season

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/11/2022 10:14:33    2446435

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Have we a full fixture list yet looking forward to the new season"
I believe the way it works is that a draft set of fixtures is mailed to the counties first, and these can be tweaked slightly if agreed by the counties involved - e.g. switching a match to a Saturday night instead of a Sunday, or if both hurlers and footballers are home the same weekend, deciding if there should be a double-header or two separate matches.

Any details emerging this week must be from those draft fixtures.

Think counties have about two weeks to negotiate any tweaks, and so finalised fixtures should be publicly announced then.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 04/11/2022 11:51:34    2446450

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I believe the way it works is that a draft set of fixtures is mailed to the counties first, and these can be tweaked slightly if agreed by the counties involved - e.g. switching a match to a Saturday night instead of a Sunday, or if both hurlers and footballers are home the same weekend, deciding if there should be a double-header or two separate matches.

Any details emerging this week must be from those draft fixtures.

Think counties have about two weeks to negotiate any tweaks, and so finalised fixtures should be publicly announced then."
That's it Pikeman. Usually there are very few alterations to the draft fixtures though.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 04/11/2022 12:02:12    2446457

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Have we a full fixture list yet looking forward to the new season"
Ye're gluttons for punishment! But great hurling people!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 06/11/2022 13:48:04    2446619

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Bit of a dated question I know, but how did the Wexford teams get on in Tony Forestall this year. Someone told me recently that they've have done well in the underage blitz tournaments. I know the county board had very high hopes for the u14/15 group.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 07/11/2022 21:23:13    2446816

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Bit of a dated question I know, but how did the Wexford teams get on in Tony Forestall this year. Someone told me recently that they've have done well in the underage blitz tournaments. I know the county board had very high hopes for the u14/15 group."
They beat everyone except limerick A.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2627 - 08/11/2022 07:56:29    2446823

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Bit of a dated question I know, but how did the Wexford teams get on in Tony Forestall this year. Someone told me recently that they've have done well in the underage blitz tournaments. I know the county board had very high hopes for the u14/15 group."
Tony Forristal was split into divisions this year I think. Limerick, Galway, Dublin, Clare were in their own tournament in Dublin and Cork, Kilkenny, Tipp, Wexford, Waterford in Waterford or roughly like that. Wexford sent 3 teams I believe, one won the shield and other got to the semi final I believe. U15 was played under a similar type of format, lost final to Limerick. So many more tournaments than there used to be. I seen on Twitter that Galway won u16A&B, u15 and u14 but obviously different tournament's ran at th same time. Tipperary won the u14 Waterford grouping. Think it's moved away from the one team and just one tournament method to every county having 3 or 4 teams and playing more games and actually using it as a development league than a straight up knockout competition. Spreads the net a lot further too, harder to miss out on lads.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 08/11/2022 10:31:19    2446835

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "They beat everyone except limerick A."
Was it not the u16s lost to Limerick A in the final? Was awhile ago so maybe I'm getting mixed up. We won one of the u14 or u15 shields I think. Not sure how our lads were split up though. Some counties had a definite A and B whereas I'm not sure there was a big difference between ours at some of the age groups.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 08/11/2022 11:00:48    2446845

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Replying To Viking66:  "Was it not the u16s lost to Limerick A in the final? Was awhile ago so maybe I'm getting mixed up. We won one of the u14 or u15 shields I think. Not sure how our lads were split up though. Some counties had a definite A and B whereas I'm not sure there was a big difference between ours at some of the age groups."
Yeah was told those competitions are a bit distilled from previous times more about player development etc. rather than the u14 or u15 all ireland champions. We had 3 panels at u15 this year don't know was it a A,B, C team or split by geography or how they split them up, had 2 u15 football panels who were split as north and south. the day we played Clare in Thurles 1 of the mentors of the Cork u15 squads was sitting behind us, they had played wexford that morning in New Ross and he was extremely impressed with the Wexford team he had faced.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 08/11/2022 11:15:12    2446848

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Yeah was told those competitions are a bit distilled from previous times more about player development etc. rather than the u14 or u15 all ireland champions. We had 3 panels at u15 this year don't know was it a A,B, C team or split by geography or how they split them up, had 2 u15 football panels who were split as north and south. the day we played Clare in Thurles 1 of the mentors of the Cork u15 squads was sitting behind us, they had played wexford that morning in New Ross and he was extremely impressed with the Wexford team he had faced."
It's a long time since I was involved in it but the last time I was there we had district teams as opposed to grouping by ability or anything like that

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2627 - 08/11/2022 11:54:18    2446852

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Yeah was told those competitions are a bit distilled from previous times more about player development etc. rather than the u14 or u15 all ireland champions. We had 3 panels at u15 this year don't know was it a A,B, C team or split by geography or how they split them up, had 2 u15 football panels who were split as north and south. the day we played Clare in Thurles 1 of the mentors of the Cork u15 squads was sitting behind us, they had played wexford that morning in New Ross and he was extremely impressed with the Wexford team he had faced."
Thank god for that, a lot more players getting a taste of intercounty standard. Results mean very little in these competitions anymore thankfully. Sooner clubs start moving in the same ethos of giving everyone a taste of action instead of win at all cost at underage then they will see the benefits.
While we are on this topic is there anything more pointless than shield finals at underage. There is only one reason for shield finals and that's the collection of €5 on the gates.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 08/11/2022 11:56:04    2446853

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "Thank god for that, a lot more players getting a taste of intercounty standard. Results mean very little in these competitions anymore thankfully. Sooner clubs start moving in the same ethos of giving everyone a taste of action instead of win at all cost at underage then they will see the benefits.
While we are on this topic is there anything more pointless than shield finals at underage. There is only one reason for shield finals and that's the collection of €5 on the gates."
Think it's so that more of the young lads have won something or reached a final. Make them feel good! I doubt its to do with fivers as alot of those competitions you pay in for the day if you have to pay at all.
I agree that it should be all about kids getting on the field and it definitely is at our club. The problem is the u11s I was giving a hand with wanted very badly to win themselves. Even in the academy alot of the 4 and 5 year olds are very competitive and want to win the various different games!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 08/11/2022 12:14:33    2446856

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "Thank god for that, a lot more players getting a taste of intercounty standard. Results mean very little in these competitions anymore thankfully. Sooner clubs start moving in the same ethos of giving everyone a taste of action instead of win at all cost at underage then they will see the benefits.
While we are on this topic is there anything more pointless than shield finals at underage. There is only one reason for shield finals and that's the collection of €5 on the gates."
I would agree from an adult looking in but we won a number of shield last year and the boys were just as delighted to win it as if they had won a cup. They got two more competitive games against teams their own standard after been hammered in the group games so i think its more about that.

If its big for them and they enjoy it, thats all that should matter. Probably could do with getting rid of shields at minor level alright.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 08/11/2022 13:19:58    2446872

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think it's so that more of the young lads have won something or reached a final. Make them feel good! I doubt its to do with fivers as alot of those competitions you pay in for the day if you have to pay at all.
I agree that it should be all about kids getting on the field and it definitely is at our club. The problem is the u11s I was giving a hand with wanted very badly to win themselves. Even in the academy alot of the 4 and 5 year olds are very competitive and want to win the various different games!!!!"
Yeah, underage competitions are set up so that just about every team reaches at least a semi-final of some sort, and so obviously about half of all teams reach a "county final". I reckon that at U13 level in particular, the boys involved don't draw a huge distinction between whether that's a Div. 4 Shield Final or a Div. 2 Cup Final, for example.

By the way, entry to underage finals this year was €6 rather than a five. I do agree it's a bit saucy to be charging the same for something like U13 Division 5 Shield as would be charged for the Premier Final in U17 (minor).

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 08/11/2022 13:35:11    2446874

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From those who impressed in the club championship and the under 20 team this season who do we expect to push for places on the starting 15 next year lads? I would love to see the likes of Corey Byrne Dunbar , Kyle Scallan & Jack Redmond get plenty of game time in the walsh cup and league.

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 09/11/2022 11:16:39    2446944

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Replying To Afinestick:  "From those who impressed in the club championship and the under 20 team this season who do we expect to push for places on the starting 15 next year lads? I would love to see the likes of Corey Byrne Dunbar , Kyle Scallan & Jack Redmond get plenty of game time in the walsh cup and league."
Hopefully from the u20s AJ Redmond, Joe Barett, Cian Molloy & Richie Lawlor are given chances too, players outside the u20 team and senior panel who impressed me during club championship were Kyle Firman and Ian Carty, Viking was saying Carty has being called in for training.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 09/11/2022 12:22:49    2446955

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Replying To Afinestick:  "From those who impressed in the club championship and the under 20 team this season who do we expect to push for places on the starting 15 next year lads? I would love to see the likes of Corey Byrne Dunbar , Kyle Scallan & Jack Redmond get plenty of game time in the walsh cup and league."
Ian Carthy, Stephen O Gorman, Cathal Doyle, Tucker Kinsella, Billy Dunne, Jamie Meyler and Conor Foley all looked good at Intermediate and Intermediate A. Billy Dunne was on the Senior panel last year. 2 of the 3 lads you mention were too, along with Oisin Pepper. Be good to see Higgins, the 2 Lawlors, Niall Murphy and David Clarke get more time on the pitch of the lads on the panel last year, and it would be really great if Seamus Casey and Ross Banville could make the step up from the fringes . AJ Redmond should be getting a good look at Senior next year. Kyle Firman was electric for the Martins this year and while small definitely has the speed and hurling. Will Joe O Connor be back from his travelling? Obviously this would all depend on how the lads were getting on in training and challenge matches first. Many will be playing first team Fitzgibbon this winter which should bring them along. Some of these are on gym and nutrition programs to get them up to the physical demands of Senior Intercounty with a view to call ups to the Senior panel in 2024.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 09/11/2022 12:36:17    2446960

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Hopefully from the u20s AJ Redmond, Joe Barett, Cian Molloy & Richie Lawlor are given chances too, players outside the u20 team and senior panel who impressed me during club championship were Kyle Firman and Ian Carty, Viking was saying Carty has being called in for training."
Joe Barrett looked good but light during the club championships. Cian Molloy a good prospect too.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 09/11/2022 13:26:14    2446973

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ian Carthy, Stephen O Gorman, Cathal Doyle, Tucker Kinsella, Billy Dunne, Jamie Meyler and Conor Foley all looked good at Intermediate and Intermediate A. Billy Dunne was on the Senior panel last year. 2 of the 3 lads you mention were too, along with Oisin Pepper. Be good to see Higgins, the 2 Lawlors, Niall Murphy and David Clarke get more time on the pitch of the lads on the panel last year, and it would be really great if Seamus Casey and Ross Banville could make the step up from the fringes . AJ Redmond should be getting a good look at Senior next year. Kyle Firman was electric for the Martins this year and while small definitely has the speed and hurling. Will Joe O Connor be back from his travelling? Obviously this would all depend on how the lads were getting on in training and challenge matches first. Many will be playing first team Fitzgibbon this winter which should bring them along. Some of these are on gym and nutrition programs to get them up to the physical demands of Senior Intercounty with a view to call ups to the Senior panel in 2024."
That was particularly impressive.

Egan reached out to them in the summer to get them up to speed.

Ian carty is in alright. His father was telling me.

I'd like to see conal Clancy involved too. He's the complete player if he can tidy up shooting but that's easy enough to coach.

I can't wait for January.

Was talking to Egan a couple of weeks back and he's incredibly honest about where we went wrong last year.

If you take out a tiny bit of indecision with Dublin and westmesth there was a fairly handy leinster there for us.

I expect Galway to be better but a good few old heads.

Dublin should improve but they've lost a couple I don't think they can afford.

I have no idea what to expect from the old enemy, but you don't get bad kilkenny teams as such.

It's last chance saloon for some of our leaders and should be an intriguing year with some good young lads coming through.

Objectively, there's about a 3% chance we can win an all Ireland.

Another provincial title is 50/50 and a realistic target for me and would be great to get considering where we were a decade ago.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2627 - 09/11/2022 13:55:52    2446979

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