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Well lads poor enough showing last night but for me only in 2nd half if we took our scores in first half would of been a lot tighter game… no point in blaming the referee getting a common thing when we loose what i wil say is we do seem to have to buy a free a lot harder than any other inter county team… Liam Ryan needs to cut out needless stupid frees seems to do it every game and gives away at least 3 to 4 scores from them every game… no ball wining half forward line been saying it for years when teams push up and we do go long we struggle for someone to put hand up and win dirty ball… without chin and Jacko we struggle..this free taking is becoming a joke for me even if banville was 70 percent fit he should of played for frees alone… mikie Dwyer is a player who really fustrates me very inconsistent and would not have him near starting 15… fanning mcguckian and foley and Damien reck again top performers….2 posters on here said subs were put on without warm ups which is nonsense they do warmups in blocks and were constantly doing these in front of us…and finally not a criticism of Mac himself or anyone but we have this thing that we have to pump high balls in to him the whole time, his marked Mcinerny was a perfit fit for him bigger and more physical than him and won all the duels in first few mins. Why not move Mac out the field and put maybe Dunbar some one nippy inside and try find them with low balls.. a fast nippy fullforward would of destroyed Mcinerny with fast low ball as the pace would of killed him… anyway one to Westmeath next week where i would like to see doran banville flood all start gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 286 - 05/02/2023 16:35:41 2456589 Link 0 |
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Galway almost full strength team?! You must be joking. Missing Daithi Burke (all stars falling out his pockets) and the St Thomas contingent for a start. Galway will be much changed and stronger come championship. ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 05/02/2023 17:47:44 2456643 Link 0 |
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Watched the game with a Galway man. He reckoned we saw between 10 and 12 lads, maybe more, out of the likely 18 or so lads who will start round robin games for you. You were missing Daithi Burke and Joe Cooney who will definitely start. Fintan Burke and Conor Cooney from the Toms. It was still a strong Galway team. You will certainly be stronger but not that much changed in Pearce Stadium.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 05/02/2023 18:18:16 2456668 Link 0 |
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I was right beside the bench. The lads were not warmed up for sprinting in winter. They would have took a few minutes after coming on the pitch before they were fully warmed up.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 05/02/2023 18:19:52 2456669 Link 0 |
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I think we all knew we'd struggle on frees, I think the team know this as well and have no confidence when they walk up to take them. They pop over the more difficult ones and miss the straightforward ones. Galway were much hungrier and a lot more aggressive, plenty of times when we had the ball, particularly Dunbar and Mac, they had 3 Galway players around them. Galway were unlucky not to get more goals, their forwards fumbled at times and Fanning did well. We had a hard time creating space, passing into groups and trying to strike surrounded by players rather than taking a second to look at options. goreyll (Wexford) - Posts: 110 - 05/02/2023 19:11:31 2456711 Link 0 |
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I'll be happy just to beat them tbh. Should guarantee our safety and free Egan to try get games into the fringe players to see if any will step up to starter standard before the championship. Can't say any of them are nailed on yet tbh. The 2 Lawlors, Mcguckin, Carty and Banville on the frees probably the pick of the new lads during the Walsh Cup. Last year Limerick only won one League game. The one against Offaly. Didn't seem to do them any harm as the summer rolled on. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 05/02/2023 21:13:46 2456790 Link 0 |
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Cathal Mannion as well.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2214 - 05/02/2023 21:18:55 2456795 Link 0 |
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Yep great player for sure. Is Ronan Glennon still in the panel? Good player also. TJ Brennan looked good in the Fitzgibbon last year. Liam Collins has the potential to be a superstar.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 05/02/2023 21:27:13 2456800 Link 0 |
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Interesting watching Waterford Dublin today to see John Kenny from Castlebridge is in the Waterford backroom team, was standing behind the goals talking to Shaun O'Brien around puckouts more obvious in the 2nd half, was doing the same with ourselves in 2019 from my memory, was involved with Oilgate and Wexford u20s previously I think. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1716 - 05/02/2023 21:44:25 2456807 Link 0 |
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Any word on oisin foley lads?is paudie definitely not coming back this year? hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 933 - 06/02/2023 20:48:12 2456921 Link 0 |
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I would have taught after last year when it was Armageddon in some people's eyes when we got hammered in the Walsh Cup final and then top of the world when we beat Limerick a week later in the league that people would have learned from that but clearly some people haven't. Look if our 2nd half performance on Saturday became a consistent level in the league that would be very concerning but I'd be almost certain all teams will have up's and downs over their campaign. I wouldn't be getting to up or down on teams this time of year. On the game itself strange in that I taught we were brilliant in the 1st 20 mins but our shooting meant it didn't show on the scoreboard, after that especially in the 2nd half we were as flat as pancakes. I'd be hopeful some of the issues on Saturday are fixable, to be mind anyway none of our 4 1st choice free takers took the field, I actually think of the 20 players used Conor Foley was the only 1 who is the main free taker for their club, Fanning and Reck would be on long range frees alright. I read that the tackles, hooks and blocks metric was 73-47 in Galway's favour which suggests its a workrate thing too, incidentally I read on that too that Cork had 23 in the 1st half and 41 in the 2nd against Limerick. Charlie McGuckin looks like a lad ready to step on a level from last year in fairness I'd my doubts but I hope he continues to prove me wrong while Conor Foley I taught did really well for a 19 year old making his debut, Damien Reck is becoming as pivotal as Chin, Rory etc at this point. I taught our forward line completely malfunctioned in the 2nd half while a few of the established players also looked a bit off it. The stand been evacuated sowed the seeds of a strange evening, to be fair I'd say the 2 people getting least carried away leaving the ground on Saturday night after the game were Darragh Egan and Henry Shefflin. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1716 - 07/02/2023 10:50:06 2456953 Link 0 |
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I dont think Egan told our players to be absolutely useless on frees or hit everything wide Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 549 - 07/02/2023 11:52:01 2456977 Link 0 |
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I don't think anybody goes out with the intention of playing bad but I think all league results should come with a health warning, to put things in context Limerick have won 3 of their last 11 league games, 2 of those wins were against Westmeath and Offaly.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1716 - 07/02/2023 12:09:06 2456985 Link 0 |
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Totally agree . I dont think we can fully judge any team this year until the championship kicks into gear. We won all 5 of our group games last year but didn't develop the depth we needed and it backfired against Clare. I'm hoping likes of Ross Banville , Ian Carty and McGuckin step up throughout the league to give us more options. It's an awful pity Richie Lawlor is out it would have been good to see him develop through the league . Although league results are not the be all and end all a win Sunday is a must against Westmeath .
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 07/02/2023 12:27:32 2456989 Link 0 |
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He hardly did. But our best scoring forwards, Chin and ROC, weren't on the matchday panel. And our best freetaker was sitting on the bench. Mogie and Foley couldn't be fully matchfit they weren't around when the panel got back together. Both tired at the start of the 2nd half. After them and Dwyer went off we lost the middle 3rd. You can't score if you don't have the ball. The 2nd half in particular we lost our shape completely. Our half backs were up past our half forwards and the Galway lads had acres of space to run through. Tom Dempsey made a good point in the paper. If we are going to use Damien Reck like an NFL quarterback going forwards etc then we need to sort out our defensive shape. The reason Shane Reck and Conor Devitt looked as poor as they did was there was noone in our halfback line stopping the ball coming through. Galway could have, or should have really, scored 4 or more goals.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 07/02/2023 12:33:31 2456992 Link 0 |
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It's the only must win game I think
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 07/02/2023 12:52:27 2457006 Link 0 |
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Hanlon and his experience coming back into the half back line will help with defensive structure . I'd also like to see Jack O Connor given a go at wing back and allowed to bomb forward like Shaun Murphy did in 2019.
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 07/02/2023 13:09:24 2457016 Link 0 |
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1 last point on Saturday wouldn't be surprised if Fitzgibbon was a factor in Ross Banville not playing, in the last month he started 2 walsh cup games, came on at HT in the other, last 2 midweeks played for DCU, came on as a sub in the challenge game vs Waterford inbetween those 2 Fitzgibbon games and playing Fitizgibbon QF tomorrow night. None of the starting team from the game last Saturday are involved in 3rd level this year. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1716 - 07/02/2023 13:09:28 2457017 Link 0 |
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Very good point on the half back line, very same thing happened when Dublin hammered us in the Walsh Cup last year.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1716 - 07/02/2023 13:35:00 2457030 Link 0 |
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It's the main issue I'd have with Jacko at intercounty though. He doesn't bomb anywhere. Not sure why but he always looks alot more in the game, or maybe up for the game, when he plays for the Martins. Our problem with the halfback line against Galway wasn't their ability to bomb forwards. It was their ability to defend properly.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 07/02/2023 13:42:23 2457035 Link 0 |