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I disagree. From 2008 to around 2014 Dublin had better hurlers than we did. Not only that they were fitter, and better organised, both on and off the pitch. For sure from around that time onwards we probably had better hurlers, and Liam Dunne then Davy improved things both fitness wise and organisation wise, which is reflected in the scores between the counties, only the puck of a ball between us. The last 2 defeats we were probably the better team on the day overall, but due to a combination of wasteful finishing, injuries and poor scores conceded we lost both games. Also we played a poor system that didn't really suit our players, made odd selection decisions, and got some of the matchups badly wrong, and the players themselves didn't really rise themselves as they would against Kilkenny. This last sentence is where a good sports psychologist might tip the balance in our favour!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14170 - 06/09/2023 14:56:25 2503319 Link 0 |
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The truth is lads leinster hurling was never as bad as it is now a very average kk team winning leinster and even though we can beat them why cant we step ip to the plate and win it ?Because simply we are not good enough and then you see what happens the Leinster champions in the ginsl different level again if we were in munster we probably wouldn't win a game.Psychologist might help but mot that much time and time again expectations have been high with this team only to get the usual result.It can't be injuries and bad luck every year lads time to be realistic.
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 280 - 06/09/2023 15:05:15 2503323 Link 0 |
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Surely the standard of our clubs indicates the standard of the county team and our clubs are not at the standard of Galway, Limerick, Kilkenny, Clare, Cork, tipperary or Ballygunner at adult or at underage. wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 188 - 06/09/2023 15:10:48 2503324 Link 0 |
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Standard of club teams has little or no relationship to standard of intercounty teams. Look at the results over the last 50 odd years since the AI club championships started. For example Antrim clubs have won more club hurling AI titles than Waterford, Wexford and Limerick clubs. Galway clubs have won the most apart from Kilkenny clubs. Yet Cork, Limerick and Tipp have won many more county AI titles in that period.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14170 - 06/09/2023 15:32:13 2503330 Link 0 |
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No way does standard of club indicate standard of intercounty hurling
Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 472 - 06/09/2023 15:33:11 2503331 Link 0 |
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I don't think either could ever be described as consistent to be honest. I think Wexford do better in league often, but when the chips are down and it matters I think its 50-50. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1267 - 06/09/2023 15:49:38 2503333 Link 0 |
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I put it out there that Leinster GAA in general is top class rubbish. The exception in recent years being the dominance of Dublin football which I would say has very little to do with Leinster outside of funding for Dev Officers in clubs. Leinster Football has never been so poor. Leinster hurling despite the inclusion of Galway and Antrim is also very low in my opinion at the moment. There is people who were working within Leinster GAA who are now in higher profile jobs in Croke Park that have overseen a decade or two decades of steep decline in performances on the pitch of the vast majority of counties. hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 06/09/2023 15:55:10 2503334 Link 0 |
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Kilkenny are beating everyone except limerick. There's nothing between Galway, kilkenny, Dublin, wexford on a given day. I think the gap is grossly exaggerated to be honest. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3240 - 06/09/2023 16:15:37 2503344 Link 0 |
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Consistency is the biggest problem MoD and Rossi face going into next year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14170 - 06/09/2023 18:32:55 2503359 Link 0 |
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Galway haven't lost to a Munster team in the last couple of years except Limerick either.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14170 - 06/09/2023 18:34:02 2503360 Link 0 |
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Any update when underage managers will be appointed? Would imagine Mick Jacob may get another year with the 17s. We need to get a good management team in for the 20s . We need to keep being highly competitive at this grade Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 07/09/2023 10:14:22 2503386 Link 0 |
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Colin Sutherland would be a great choice for the u20s
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14170 - 07/09/2023 14:51:26 2503440 Link 0 |
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Senior Camogie Manager, Oulart Manager for the 2024 season so I'd say he is busy enough now
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 07/09/2023 16:25:24 2503448 Link 0 |
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Here here. Lets face it, Limerick are 5+ points better than everyone in Limerick. They won Munster at ease without some key players. Teams gave it everything to beat them. Its how Leinster was with Kilkenny at their prime. I think Kilkenny and Galway are a bit ahead of Wexford and Dublin but both are better than the other 4 Munster teams. I'll caveat that by saying that Wexford and Dublin can beat both but I don't see the consistency over 4-5 games. Like Wexford last year losing to Westmeath and Dublin draw with Antrim albeit the latter not a surprise in Corrigan Park. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1267 - 07/09/2023 16:33:43 2503450 Link 0 |
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As he was mentioned for the senior job would Declan Ruth not be a good choice for the u20 team ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1267 - 07/09/2023 16:34:29 2503451 Link 0 |
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Has he been kept on in both jobs after last year??!
grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 178 - 07/09/2023 17:16:42 2503457 Link 0 |
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The problem with that statement are the facts. We have got to two Leinster finals in the past 10 years, if there wasn't much between us and the rest then we would be contesting more finals. We were on missed opportunity by Kilkenny from playing in the Joe Mc. I don't recall any of the other teams you have listed facing that prospect.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1904 - 07/09/2023 18:08:35 2503462 Link 0 |
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I know he was doing those jobs this year. Doesn't mean he wouldn't be a good man for the u20s though.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14170 - 07/09/2023 21:25:30 2503472 Link 0 |
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How were Dublin robbed in the 2018 game?
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 361 - 07/09/2023 21:51:35 2503473 Link 0 |
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Dublin senior club hurling is a very very high standard. No senior team in Tipp, Clare & Cork would beat Kilmacud Crokes now or Cuala a few years ago. Na Fianna another super hurling team on the up. Cork senior club hurling is septic, non contact high heels hurling where forwards shoot the lights out in high scoring matches. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 839 - 08/09/2023 02:29:47 2503476 Link 0 |