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Wexford Hurling Championship 2022

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Predictions for this weekend-
Senior-
Gorey
Crossabeg
Glynn
Ferns
Oylegate
Shels

Intermediate-
Rocks
Fethard
Gusserane
Taghmon
Oulart
Alley

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/07/2022 09:01:19    2429774

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Hold on a second. I did not say the top 8 were WELL clear of the rest.

You asked me to name my top 8 teams in a hypothetical 8 team senior championship and I did. Then you challenged my logic and then I explained my logic.

On the intermediate issue, Fethard will hardly be able to keep the Oulart lads warm. If they meet, I'd expect Oulart to win by 15-20 points at least.

When compared with last year, Fethard have a far weaker team.

What is your top 8 as a matter of interest?"
That's the point. I don't have a top 8. Yes every year there are better senior teams than others, depending on players travelling, young players making the step up, a collective desire to push harder or even a new manager with new ideas. But to say that the senior championship should only be those 8 teams is a leap too far for me.
You used the 5 year comparison with the Harriers not being top 8. Oulart were in the final in 2017 and beat Cloughbawn, another team not in your list of 8 senior club standard clubs, in the final the year before.
I'd have a top 14, with the current 12 plus Oulart and Fethard. I think any of the 6 outside your 8 could beat any of those 8 on a given day. Yes they wouldn't be favourites but equally they wouldn't be no hopers. The Alley seem to be doing good work at underage and might improve over the next few years. And who knows maybe a couple more Ross District teams might make the breakthrough to Senior Hurling in the next decade also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/07/2022 11:08:03    2429801

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Hold on a second. I did not say the top 8 were WELL clear of the rest.

You asked me to name my top 8 teams in a hypothetical 8 team senior championship and I did. Then you challenged my logic and then I explained my logic.

On the intermediate issue, Fethard will hardly be able to keep the Oulart lads warm. If they meet, I'd expect Oulart to win by 15-20 points at least.

When compared with last year, Fethard have a far weaker team.

What is your top 8 as a matter of interest?"
Oulart flew through the League. And have started the championship group stage red hot too. Will they be able to keep that up all the way through the knockout stages? I suspect they will go up but I'm not certain yet.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/07/2022 11:09:54    2429802

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A crazy, and surely unique, feat occured over the weekend. In the Ballgarrett-Alley game, a father lined out against his son (Ballygarrett's Stephen Redmond vs. Jack Redmond). In fact, at one stage I am fairly certain the young lad was marking his uncle. I don't think I recall something like that ever happening.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 05/07/2022 11:31:34    2429811

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Oulart look way too good for Intermediate.

Had a bad year last in senior but seem intent on going straight back up."
As an oualrt man I'd be confident we have a good chance of going up yes but at the same time I wouldn't get too carried away one bad performance in the knockout stages against a decent team could catch us out fairly quick. Hurling very well atm but very early days yet anything can happen in a game of hurling

Yellowbelly97 (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 05/07/2022 12:17:41    2429830

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The only question that needs to be answered with regard to Oulart is who is capable of stopping them winning the intermediate All Ireland?

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 05/07/2022 14:06:06    2429877

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Replying To beano:  "A crazy, and surely unique, feat occured over the weekend. In the Ballgarrett-Alley game, a father lined out against his son (Ballygarrett's Stephen Redmond vs. Jack Redmond). In fact, at one stage I am fairly certain the young lad was marking his uncle. I don't think I recall something like that ever happening."
Stephen Redmond could call it a day now.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 05/07/2022 14:32:19    2429894

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Stephen Redmond could call it a day now."
Eddie too though he looked very fit the last day!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/07/2022 14:53:08    2429899

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Replying To Onfor15:  "The only question that needs to be answered with regard to Oulart is who is capable of stopping them winning the intermediate All Ireland?"
Kilmoyley, Naas, whoever wins 1 of the other 5 Munster Intermediate Championships, Kilkenny intermediate champions etc etc.
That's a big statement with no good grounding you have come up with there!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/07/2022 15:40:28    2429918

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Replying To Viking66:  "Eddie too though he looked very fit the last day!"
Club never recovered from Cathal Dunbarr leaving, only good prospect they've had in decades.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 05/07/2022 16:17:32    2429928

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Club never recovered from Cathal Dunbarr leaving, only good prospect they've had in decades."
Was a sad day for them for sure

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/07/2022 16:55:15    2429943

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Replying To Onfor15:  "The only question that needs to be answered with regard to Oulart is who is capable of stopping them winning the intermediate All Ireland?"
I don't think there is a club in Wexford capable of winning an All Ireland club at any grade. Oulart should win the Intermediate but I actually don't think they'd win Leinster. Let's not forget that the intermediate winner in Kilkenny would probably have a good chance of winning our senior championship, such is the strength of Kilkenny club hurling. Oylgate were a strong intermediate team last year and still were beaten by Naas. A lot of our teams have struggled in the Leinster championship and the split season hasn't helped that at all.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 05/07/2022 20:48:36    2429984

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On a side note, isn't it great to see Senior Club matches being played in Taghmon, Tagoat, Monamolin, and Gorey? For me, matches outside of the Semi-Finals and Final can get lost in Wexford Park. Better to be playing these matches in local grounds. Yes, they're smaller venues and they obviously don't have as many seats in their stand (That's if they even have a stand). But the atmosphere is 10 times better in these smaller venues than in Wexford Park. One venue I would like to see get more Senior games is Farmleigh which is an absolutely lovely venue.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 600 - 05/07/2022 21:01:31    2429986

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "I don't think there is a club in Wexford capable of winning an All Ireland club at any grade. Oulart should win the Intermediate but I actually don't think they'd win Leinster. Let's not forget that the intermediate winner in Kilkenny would probably have a good chance of winning our senior championship, such is the strength of Kilkenny club hurling. Oylgate were a strong intermediate team last year and still were beaten by Naas. A lot of our teams have struggled in the Leinster championship and the split season hasn't helped that at all."
Naas beat Glenmore (KK champs) and went on and won All Ireland, They're obviously not bad Martin. Also a senior club. The Kk intermediate champions wouldn't be near competing for Wexford championship either going off how the last few winners done in their own senior championship.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 06/07/2022 09:44:15    2430002

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Was just wondering what you think of the standard of Refereeing in the championship to date. I've been at half a dozen games ranging from Junior A to Senior so far.
At Senior/intermediate level what i saw seems pretty decent and consistent with the last few years. There seems to be a top 6-8 referees that are pretty good always come with umpires and in general know what they are about.
When you get to intermediate 8 its hit and miss to be honest. some good looking to get among the senior refs. some poor with little interest or ability. It's a pity we dont have enough referees available to do the lines below intermediate level but that appears to be the fact of life these days.
At Junior and below the standard is pretty dismal. lads that are overweight and have little interest and or ability to keep up with the play or know the rules. I was talking to a person who is very active with a local club who was telling me that in the wexford district they are likely to get a better referee for their second team games in the Junior B championship that their first team in the Inter A Championship.
In fairness it is a circular problem hard to recruit refs with the abuse they get but then very hard to respect a referee that doesnt appear to give a damn.

indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 06/07/2022 09:56:09    2430007

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "I don't think there is a club in Wexford capable of winning an All Ireland club at any grade. Oulart should win the Intermediate but I actually don't think they'd win Leinster. Let's not forget that the intermediate winner in Kilkenny would probably have a good chance of winning our senior championship, such is the strength of Kilkenny club hurling. Oylgate were a strong intermediate team last year and still were beaten by Naas. A lot of our teams have struggled in the Leinster championship and the split season hasn't helped that at all."
That's negative tripe. A good friend of mine is a Naas clubman and went to all their games. He hurled for Naas and Kildare back in the day. He said Oylegate were the best team they faced by a long way all year and they beat Glenmore, the Kilkenny champions, in the Leinster Intermediate semi final.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 06/07/2022 10:07:29    2430013

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "On a side note, isn't it great to see Senior Club matches being played in Taghmon, Tagoat, Monamolin, and Gorey? For me, matches outside of the Semi-Finals and Final can get lost in Wexford Park. Better to be playing these matches in local grounds. Yes, they're smaller venues and they obviously don't have as many seats in their stand (That's if they even have a stand). But the atmosphere is 10 times better in these smaller venues than in Wexford Park. One venue I would like to see get more Senior games is Farmleigh which is an absolutely lovely venue."
Yes great atmosphere for the Anne's v Crossabeg game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 06/07/2022 10:09:25    2430015

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Replying To indaknownow:  "Was just wondering what you think of the standard of Refereeing in the championship to date. I've been at half a dozen games ranging from Junior A to Senior so far.
At Senior/intermediate level what i saw seems pretty decent and consistent with the last few years. There seems to be a top 6-8 referees that are pretty good always come with umpires and in general know what they are about.
When you get to intermediate 8 its hit and miss to be honest. some good looking to get among the senior refs. some poor with little interest or ability. It's a pity we dont have enough referees available to do the lines below intermediate level but that appears to be the fact of life these days.
At Junior and below the standard is pretty dismal. lads that are overweight and have little interest and or ability to keep up with the play or know the rules. I was talking to a person who is very active with a local club who was telling me that in the wexford district they are likely to get a better referee for their second team games in the Junior B championship that their first team in the Inter A Championship.
In fairness it is a circular problem hard to recruit refs with the abuse they get but then very hard to respect a referee that doesnt appear to give a damn."
Do linesmen get paid for their time? If I am a referee and I do linesman at an intermediate A or Junior game, do I get paid?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1435 - 06/07/2022 10:39:19    2430025

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's negative tripe. A good friend of mine is a Naas clubman and went to all their games. He hurled for Naas and Kildare back in the day. He said Oylegate were the best team they faced by a long way all year and they beat Glenmore, the Kilkenny champions, in the Leinster Intermediate semi final."
Nass are a very good side.

Don't forget the Oylegate Glenbrien 2019 Junior B All Ireland title.......really need an emoji now.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 546 - 06/07/2022 11:18:56    2430041

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Do linesmen get paid for their time? If I am a referee and I do linesman at an intermediate A or Junior game, do I get paid?"
Theres only linesmen (official referees) appointed for Senior and intermediate games. They get paid - not sure how much i think about €10-€15

indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 06/07/2022 11:54:18    2430058

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